I've decided to start a new thread for Chega Mais as the last one needs to be put to bed.

I didn't keep a precise tally but the women won the messy round approximately 12 to 4. It may have been worse. It was a total slaughter.

Of the mere 4 times the men won they went with a balloon twice.

Of the 12 times the women won they went with a pie 10 times.

Several of the women held back nothing and went for maximum face and hair coverage with the pies.

The two opportunities the men had with the pies they ever so gently touched the pie to the woman's face and quickly removed it.

At least five of the male contestants are so dimwitted that there's no possibility of them ever getting a question correct except by luck.

After nearly five weeks of episodes it's difficult to draw any other conclusion than this segment of the show exists for women to pie men with abandon and men to occasionally balloon the women.

When you see ten drop dead gorgeous women in sexy attire nearly entirely clean at the end of the episode you have to say to yourself what a total waste!

Edit: I mean no offense to those who wish to see males get pied. If that's your preference, congratulations. You have a show that delivers high quality new content every week. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawO3x7wRGs

After reviewing the video more closely I'm modifying my analysis of why the ladies won the messy round so thoroughly.

And no, it's not because I've found evidence that the male models are Einsteins.

The contestants are supposed to put their hand to their ear while standing straight up in preparation for hitting the buzzer.

However, nearly every woman leaned down (and forward) significantly at the contestants' stand. This brought their hand at least half a foot closer to the buzzer. This shortened distance allowed them to buzz in first an almost unexplainable number of times.

Watch this video that I've cued up. Look how far forward the girl in the black dress is leaning and how much closer her hand is to the buzzer. Her hand is literally ten inches from the buzzer by the time she hits it. Ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawO3x7wRGs&t=42m13s

In this clip the woman in the red dress doesn't even have her buzzer hand on her ear. It's near her shoulder. This drastically shortened distance gives her an extra second advantage. This isn't even a close call. It's clearly cheating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawO3x7wRGs&t=40m34s

Freeze the frame at 29m6sec and see how far forward leaning the blonde woman is. She's cut the distance between her hand and the buzzer in half.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawO3x7wRGs&t=29m6s

Tell me this isn't outright cheating.

The women were absolutely determined to hit the buzzer first no matter what. This is the bottom line. They were single-minded on chiming in first.

Genuine game shows (such a Jeopardy) use a device that contestants squeeze in their hand thus eliminating the cheating that's displayed in the video links above.

Additionally, if a contestant on Jeopardy chimes in too quickly they stand to lose a load of money. In comparison there's no such penalty for buzzing in too quickly on Chega Mais. So why not bend at a 45 degree angle, shorten the buzzing distance in half and hit the buzzer immediately? This was the lady's strategy and they played it to perfection.

In future episodes CM contestants will probably be leaning so far forward that their hand will start just an inch away from the buzzer. Perhaps by then the hosts will wake up and notice what's happening. They missed it entirely this week.

What made this cheating possible? They changed the set this week. Past episodes had the contestants facing each other only a few feet apart. It's very difficult to bend over at a 45 degree angle when you're nose to nose with your competitor. The new set has the contestants at least 15 feet away from each other. This lifts any restraint to stand straight up since you're quite a distance from your competitor.

If all that wasn't bad enough check this out. In this round the male contestant actually hits his buzzer first but the hosts don't see it and allow Sabrina to shout out an answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawO3x7wRGs&t=30m28s

On a gameshow of any legitimacy this would've automatically been a loss for the transgressor.

So there you have at least four pies that were delivered to the men instead of to the women as they should've been. Go through the entire video for yourself. There were at least two or three more circumstances where the women were hovering over the buzzer before the question was even asked.

Give me strength.

I have more overly detailed analysis of Chega Mais coming soon.

Then I will conclusively prove who assassinated JFK.

I know you'll be sitting on the edge of your chair waiting!

Bro.... you gotta let this go. How's it go - try for the serenity to resist the things you cannot change. I have little doubt your analysis is accurate, but what resolution could come from this?

I prefer a bad Chega Mais than nothing. The models are beautiful, so even if they pie just one per week it's still ok. Some people expect this kind of stupid tv shows to be a jilly videoclip. Sorry guys, it's not. It was pretty great some weeks ago, and nothing like it lately. But I still wants to see a new game every week.
By the way, the hostess bday is in september. It will be nice if someone pie her... even in a gently way.

I appreciate your advice. Thank you for taking a moment of your day for my benefit.

Engaging in this manner in this forum is somewhat cathartic for me. At least I hope it is.

The vibe here is that most people are very chill.

My fierce style of excessively detailed commenting is probably a hundred decibels louder, a thousand times more frenetic and in complete disharmony with this mellow forum.

However, I probably have a few more of these types of comments remaining so I apologize in advance for blowing out eardrums and inflaming migraines.

That's it: no more Mr Nice Stalker.

I'm writing these producers & telling them exactly what we're ALL doing when the ladies get pied!

Lucky for them, they won't know what I'm writing, since I don't know Spanish or Portuguese.

I sympathize, CU. That's why I avoid these types of shows altogether
& just come to the UMD to wait & hope for the occasional tape-recording angel to post a good hit now & then.

It's symptomatic of.. I dunno.. stupidity grande, in general?
Corporations (in this case: a tv station) make a perfectly good product, then f :readit: k it up for no logical reason. I experienced that today while ordering a refrigerator. :ohbruther:

I mean, I can understand if there were competing customers (viewers)
who would WANT the show this way. Who knows how the mind of a tv show producer, wam video producer, or YouTuber works? Nobody knows.

As somebody who followed the first three-page post of rants and analysis of Chega Mais as a casual observer, the obsession with this show and the conspiracy theories generated here by some people are seriously starting to creep me out. There are many good pieings of attractive women around, folks. Passa ou Repassa still has excellent pieings of gorgeous females nearly every Sunday. Just breathe.

Ok, this is something that has puzzled me for years, but I never got round to asking before - given the enormous resources this community has in terms of producers of just about any variety of content imaginable, almost of whom will invariably do a vastly better job of gunging or pieing a model than mainstream TV can ever dream of, what is the attraction of shows like this one?

I don't mean this to come over as "producer wants you to buy more", I'm just genuinely curious what the attraction is?

It's actually impossible for a producer in this niche fetish to produce something on this level.
Even assuming "low budget" Brazilian TV, just the cameras, set, lighting, crew, and the 7 different girls probably cost $10-20,000 an episode, easy. That's just so beyond feasible for any WAM producer now, it's not even funny.

Mainstream clips will always have an appeal because there's a level of production there that none of us can touch. (And at the risk of discounting the cost, they ARE 100% free to anyone who knows how to get on YouTube.)

It is (bitterly) funny that this show almost went out of its way to delineate EXACTLY how unlike a WAM production they truly are. I've never seen something almost instantly hailed as one of the greatest shows in mainstream history (I had several people seriously tell me my sales were probably down because Chega Mais was giving most of my audience their weekly pie kicks for free) go so quickly in the opposite direction.

The WAM producer equivalent would be a new guy that suddenly appears with 4-girl pie videos with gorgeous models, big sticky pies, and perfect hits... And then after 3 releases switches entirely to male WAM.

What country is this from? Brazil? Can we just invade that shit and fix this? Because this thread is already longer than the last war.

Fair enough regarding production values, etc, but if the result misses the actual money shots, does it matter? Perhaps I'm unusual, but I'd far rather watch an average girl next door wearing exactly the right outfit and getting herself gunged in exactly the right way, filmed on consumer HD gear, than a world's greatest supermodel, filmed on top notch broadcast gear, not getting gunged properly. It doesn't matter how cheap (or even free) a scene is, if it doesn't contain my personal money shots, I'm just not interested.


From the description posted at the start of the thread, the pie hits in the show are decidedly mediocre - I just can't get my head round people preferring that to stuff filmed by someone like yourself or one of the other pie specialists, who knows how to do pies properly, and will film the aftermath for the audience to enjoy.


LOL!!!

The conspiracy theory is now conspiracy FACT.

The fix is in to protect the gals from pies. Exactly as we speculated.

If you watched the entire episode you saw the proof.

A petite blonde cutie had a complete mental melt-down after losing a question to one of the idiot twin brothers.

After getting annihilated with pies for the last month the guy heads over to the table to select a pie and get revenge.

The blonde starts screaming hysterically pointing her finger at him reminding him of an AGREEMENT they have for her NOT TO BE PIED.

Let me repeat that. She has an AGREEMENT NOT TO BE PIED.

The idiot twin gives in to her temper tantrum and picks up a balloon instead. She scolds him some more for even thinking of pie-ing her.

The dude looks like he's finally had enough and turns around giving an indication that he's going back to get a pie (to the cheers of the audience). However, he ultimately relents and sticks with the balloon.

If you think I'm inventing this watch the video. Click the link. It's cued up to the beginning of the action and runs about two minutes 30 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawO3x7wRGs&t=36m57s

It's therefore now logical to assume other girls have similar non pie-ing agreements.

It's therefore now logical to assume that the monstrous female pie-ings (which have come to a virtual halt) have been negotiated away as well.

This would also explain why when the women lose the punishment is disproportionately the balloon as compared to the men.

We know.

WHY WON'T THE FOREIGN ENTERTAINMENT SHOW PLAT DIRECTLY TO MY FETISH DEMOGRAPHIC!



This might be the most self entitled post I have read on this forum yet.

And there have been some real works of art.


If only there were video makers out there that made videos just for you.

In fairness, they ARE playing directly to a certain fetish demographic now.

It's the one you now "specify" with your profile.

You know, I think I've heard of a couple out there somewhere, but I don't know where they might be for sure!

If only there was maybe a Directory of places where you could find them!

Norman

I don't known why this show here doesn't get enough love here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3y-HsOzZ1B0 This show constantly delivers results.

Rich, you are kind of missing Noise's point, which was the point I endlessly tried to argue with criticism_unwarranted elsewhere; if only I could've been as pithy as Noise!

The thing is that this or any other mainstream show doesn't play to ANY fetish demographic, and shouldn't be expected to. "Playing to" implies they are deliberately courting the viewership of a particular audience,* which of course they are. But I guarantee you the producers' target audience radar doesn't include a blip for those who become sexually stimulated by seeing attractive people of either gender pied -- they presumably just think that enough of their "regular" target viewers (and there are strong indications these are Brazilian women in their 20s) find this entertaining for non-fetishistic reasons.

*Such as in the common expression "playing to the cheap seats," which means to actively seek the favor of some lowest common denominator.

Gee....I thought NOISE was being sardonic (towards those complaining about the lack of female-targeted wam on CM)...?

Yes, he was being sardonic. The point I have argued endlessly with criticism_unwarrented (in another massive thread now best left for dead) and to a lesser extend with Rich (also mainly elsewhere) is the same one made my Noise through his humorous take on the matter: There are people here complaining very loudly, and in what Noise refers to as a "self entitled" manner, that a show made for a Brazilian market (produced in a language almost none of us even speak) is failing to cater directly to their own specific fetish. Noise also humorously suggests (indirectly) that there ARE videos made specifically to please these people (i.e. the work of wam producers) and that perhaps the aggrieved parties would be better off looking to that material rather than suffering so much grief over a mainstream Brazilian show that is outrageously and unfairly failing to "play directly to [their] fetish demographic."

Right, humor isn't very funny when you break it down in this fashion. I didn't want to, but at least two people seem to have missed the point of Noise's humor, so I'm hitting you over the head with a logical breakdown.

Noise, if I've somehow misrepresented you here, then please correct me.

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.

Yes, of course I got the humor. Unless someone is actively ON this forum, promoting their wares endlessly, then there is no guarantee that the material being produced is particularly "catering" to this fetish.
And yes, that includes random girls on YouTube "taking requests," or guys spending years making a "music video" that seems to consist solely of young women being pied and slimed. That's still no certainty that they actually KNOW or cater to this fetish. (Although one could probably guess.)

I do get the appeal of mainstream scenes, as mentioned above. I also get that a large portion of the WAM audience prefers what I call "found WAM" or "accidental WAM"... i.e. they would rather spend hours on YouTube and elsewhere finding random pie scenes (news anchors, charity events, dares, challenges, etc.) than drop $5 on a scene with exactly the content they want. And I'm not 100% sure it's JUST about "free" versus "not free." Some feel that these random clips have a natural spontaneity to them that disappears as soon as a model knows she's being filmed and knows she's getting messy. While I'm not sure that makes up for shoddy camera work and crappy pies, I do see the appeal.

(More precisely: The DDG scene with the 2 blonde hotties nailing each other with sticky colored pies is probably one of my favorite scenes ever, mainstream or otherwise. Some pie hits from Chega Mais, particularly all with Barbara, are up there, along with some particular contestants on Domingo Legal. I've probably enjoyed these clips more than ANY producer scenes I've seen in the last 3 years. That's not a slam on producers here, but more my own tastes.)

ANYWAY. My humor was missed as well. Of course CM isn't changing their show to actively cater to a sub-niche of a tiny fetish. But it's amusing (and sadly inevitable) that by "tweaking" the show to their desired audience, they have accidentally created the greatest weekly male WAM show in years. Or possibly ever.

And all they had to do to achieve that was systematically deconstruct the great weekly FEMALE WAM show they'd accidentally created a few months previous!

Anyway, this looks like it's turning into Pieromaniac vs. Criticism Part II, so here's where I get off again.

Just remember this is an endless cycle. I read comments years ago from Brits still fuming over the "inequality" of Noel's House Party. As an American not into "gunge," I was baffled why anyone would care, but to those who loved those particular mainstream gunge tank clips, I suppose watching a gorgeous woman get away scot-free due to behind-the-scenes trickery would've felt like the worst kind of betrayal. So I get both sides.

As with all cycles, there will probably be another good mainstream pie show to come along eventually. Maybe this good, probably not. Maybe in 6 months, maybe 5 years. Who knows. Circle of life.

"The conspiracy theory is now conspiracy FACT.

The fix is in to protect the gals from pies. Exactly as we speculated.

If you watched the entire episode you saw the proof."



I think I'll just stick to watching Passa ou Repassa's Torta na Cara segment every week instead of letting Chega Mais and their conspiracy keep me up at night. Also keep an eye on the Reds and the Pinkos, folks. Can't trust those people. :ahahah:

Hearing this sound is almost as bad as hearing your own grandfather weeping into his pillow.


Out of curiosity, Rich, what were the last WAM producer scenes that you did enjoy as much as these excellent TV pieings you name? I'd honestly love to know.


I wouldn't be so sure about that, Rich. In the last Chega Mais thread/debacle here, one guy chimed in who said he was a fan of male pieings but had nowhere else to vent about the show. His take was that the show offered great male and female pieings at some middle point when the pied gender pendulum was still in tilt. He said that by the time the show had shifted to a strong emphasis on male pieings, the editing had become terrible, there were awful cartoon graphics in the way of some of the shots, and the messiness of the pie hits wasn't nearly what it had been. His comments to this effect are just a week and a half old too [as of this writing]. I wouldn't know anything about this because I don't bother with this show beyond the YouTube clips someone helpfully posts that edit it down to just the bits of female mess, but presumably this other poster knows his stuff when it comes to male pie scenes. (Of course, fans of male pieings must also surely have big disagreements over what constitutes "good" material, so it's not like any one person would have the final word on it either.)

This!

N.B. However I do understand that mainstream clips are not made to cater for my fantasies, and have no sense of entitlement. Furthermore there are certain people taking things way too far, including leaving comments (some very rude) on CM's social media pages.

Speaking for myself, I've always been more attracted to mainstream clips over WAM produced clips. In a way it's hard to explain why, but in general the fact that it is a paid model being covered in mess automatically reduces the appeal for me. That doesn't mean that I don't like produced WAM material (and indeed i've tried my hand at making some videos myself), but no matter how many pies, how attractive the girl is, how good the script is, the fact that it is a paid model takes away some of the attraction. Especially when there are another 10 scenes of the same model getting just as messy to choose from etc.

My preference is always members of the public (or indeed celebs) getting messed up on tv shows, where there is some build up of tension (will she/won't she), where you know that all the reactions are genuine and spontaneous, and where in all probability this is the first and only time that the lady would get messy.

Hope this helps,

Tails

--Across-the-board hot women.
--Fantastic wardrobe including heels (for CM).
--The best pies of any mainstream scenes in recent history, and among the best ever. Seriously, you don't know how many people wrote me when CM premiered, asking what the "Brazilian pie formula" was or if I could replicate it. (Spoiler: I tried. I can't.)
--Occasional long after-shots (mainly on CM, as DL tends to be terrible with their camera work).

I mean, let's be honest. No one's crying about "inequality" on Combate, because the girls are so-so, dressed in sports wear, and get pied with shaving cream on a plate. TRULY sub-par shows rise and fall without any attention whatsoever.

Or just for visual evidence.... There are two pics below. One is a post-pie shot from what most people consider one of the greatest mainstream scenes in history. The second is evidence of what *used* to happen weekly on CM.

Even factoring in one's attraction to Joyce DeWitt, I don't see how any pie fan would consider a show pumping out that kind of content WEEKLY to be anything but flat-out amazing. People are taking this loss badly because it really is a genuine loss in terms of great mainstream WAM.

I certainly agree with Rich above, in terms of the quality of the pieings that were dished out. However...I do broadly disagree with the level of complaints that have arisen from the last few shows.

It's certainly true that they haven't been anywhere near as good, from our perspective, as those from a few months ago. That said, this is a mainstream show. Chega Mais has no obligation to have any kind of messy games at all. It's not as if they are doing this for OUR benefit. Mainstream WAM is not something that ought to be considered an entitlement or even an expectation.

Now, if it's there, then it shouldn't be taken for granted--I don't blame anyone for celebrating it or enjoying it. But it's not there for us, so there's little point to complain when it goes away. Do enjoy while it's there, but it's no scandal when it goes away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8OipmKFDeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A