snmlst said: regarding the meet, now i'm worried the buffet tables going on the producers and there's no going to be anything left for the rest of us...
I thought this was all settled in 2011. This is not something that needs to be discussed in this setting. However, I will not stand by as my integrity is questioned and I'm put in the awkward position of either ignoring it or defending myself. Clearly MG has a problem with me. For the record I don't poach models. (I can't even poach eggs) I have never had an exclusivity agreement with any of my models. (Kym has worked with Dave Lodoski, piefight girls, Lenny, and Soundguy). My 'grease' recipe came from a UMD thread. I think that covers it all.
I plan to party my ass off in Vegas with any fan or producer out there! I'd love to buy a round of beers for MG and Mr_MG.
MudMadPhil said: Models can work for whoever they like!!! This is a load of crap! When I was shooting I was accused of the same thing, jezzz get over it! Its tough enough making any $$$ out of shooting WAM, who needs this stupid drama?
Phil
Sure, a model can work with anyone they want, until they work with you, and they sign your release form that states they can't work for another wam producer for 3 months, after shooting with you. Kobe Lee was booked during her Texas tour. After shooting for you and signing your model agreement that states she can't work for another wam producer, she had to cancel our shoots. That is a load of crap if you ask me.
As a model I would never sign a release like that. One website (not wam related) tried to do that to me which would have made me lose a ton of money. I think that's just a shitty thing to do to your models. I value the work that the women I hire do and I wouldn't want to force them to lose out on income just to try to hurt another producer.
The idea of "stealing" models is really weird to me. In the circle of producers/models I work with we regularly refer people to each other. I recently worked with a great model so I put her in contact with an awesome producer who can give her regular work. It's a lot more profitable to have friends in this industry than enemies.
Yay everyone is friends again! Now let's celebrate by releasing any previously unreleased kym vs vicky pie fight scenes that we may have.... Wetandmessy?
Ariel said: These models are independent contractors and they have the right to work for whoever they want. They are out there trying to make a living.
Not only that, when Penelope contacted ME wanting to come work with me, didn't you poison her against wanting to work with me by making up rumors and lies about me, Mr. Mg? Because that is what SHE says happened. She sent me all these messages from her umd account so I'm sure there is a record of it. I can probably still find them in my inbox if I need to.
Far from the reason why she passed on you. I'm sure Penelope also has the email exchange with you.
Ariel said: These models are independent contractors and they have the right to work for whoever they want. They are out there trying to make a living.
Not only that, when Penelope contacted ME wanting to come work with me, didn't you poison her against wanting to work with me by making up rumors and lies about me, Mr. Mg? Because that is what SHE says happened. She sent me all these messages from her umd account so I'm sure there is a record of it. I can probably still find them in my inbox if I need to.
Far from the reason why she passed on you. I'm sure Penelope also has the email exchange with you.
There were no emails. None. Zero. You already know this. They were all here on the umd. You already know this also I'm sure because she told me YOU orchestrated it. I've never done anything to you and there are countless examples of people telling me that you like to make up lies and rumors about me. Customers and also other messy models have come to me. I don't understand the hatred towards me bc I've never done anything towards you, Mr. MG. I don't believe it's Leah at all based on what I've been told. I could be wrong, but this has gone on for YEARS and I've never said a word publicly, but all this trying to act like you can control what independent contractors do is nonsensical.
Forgive me for calling your UMD exchanges as email. I'm not as tech savvy as you. Please check your email...oops I mean UMD message box.
CaseWam said: A one time shoot with Kim is $2000? Plus materials that's going to be around $2300. That's pretty insane. Maybe I'm wrong here but I doubt most WAM videos even make $2300 in revenue never mind profit.
I'm probably in the minority here because a lot of people really seem to love her, but I've never understood the enormous appeal Kym seems to have in the WAM world. I dunno, just me.
Love you, too
