You see people on this forum clamoring for it. You know the producer is long gone. But low and behold, you HAVE that video! And you're not giving it up anytime soon.

What is it?

I lost my melania and Kaydens videos I bought in a crash.. Those seem pretty hard to come by

Great topic! I have virtually all of the Hurley stuff on DVD.

Two scenes I have heard asked about and I dont believe are on youtuve and GREAT pie/cake scenes:

A young, HOT Goldie Hawn in a sexy short waitress dress getting slammed with a huge cake on Laugh-in; and a soap opera babe getting a comeuppance pie for probably the 1980s...two great scenes I have not seen anywhere else.

The one with me and............eh...forget it. Nobody would believe it anyway.

Robby
WAMma Lamma Pie
www.wammalamapie.com

www.shepiestheguy.com

www.leaveemhanging.com

I have the blue leapord media stuff. All above board, thankfully i tracked it down before it went kaputnik.

It greatly influenced my own stuff.

I wish I could still get those "piefun"? Videos? Not sure that's what they are called. The ones where the gal gets just one or two pies. Good stuff as I recall.

The infamous Bea Arthur nude mud wrestling video.

I used to own quite a bit that would now be considered hard to find as it's no longer available - quite a few WAMF clips, plenty of Jessie that aren't up on her site anymore, Messy Lady and some fantastic Splosh ones from Bill Shipton to name just my most mourned ones- but I lost them all myself a couple of years ago when I heard the dreaded "click of death" on my portable hard drive..

I suppose the closest current thing I've got to anything rare is a lot of Jayce's back catalogue, which I made sure I did replace when she announced she was retiring earlier this year, and perhaps some Fi Stevens scenes from the Kowalskis that aren't all on the site or video vault anymore. Fi's stuff, thank goodness, was always also backed up on a memory stick I kept separate just for her, so the above crash didn't affect them...

I've got two of Anglefans video with Parrothead's wife Amber. Still great to watch after all these years.

Lucky you! I never got round to downloading any of them when I had the chance...

videos of wetlook university and messyuniversity

Back in the early days, we traded tapes with a few wam producers. One of the private moment tapes we received was a messy bj, from a wam female superstar of the time, who never did nudity.

Phoebe?

I have a few of the Blue Leopards myself, and agree that they are great. Wish I'd bought them all...

I have half a dozen or so of the Pie Fun Productions videos and love these too; again, wish I'd bought more while they were still around. But these aren't the ones you're thinking of, Meathook. The ones where the models take just one pie per scene -- in a series of short "blackout" sketches -- are from a producer who first went by PieJinx and then by Pies Next Door. I bought about half a dozen of his when his store was around. Excellent stuff, and yet again, wish I'd scooped up more of his work while it was still available. (I posted a bunch of screencaps from PieJinx videos last summer, but a month or two later the producer had UMD mods remove them all. He did not contact me at all.)

All three producers I mention above were comedy-based in their approach, had scripted dialogue, none did nudity, and all had their videos for sale for only a couple years in the late aughts. Even back then, that was apparently a tough way go make money. But SStuff Rich has succeeded with a similar approach, as have you, Meathook, and I love the stuff both of you do. I think the crucial difference between you two and the three short-lived producers above -- in terms of staying afloat -- is that you guys both use conventionally sexier models and generally put them in skimpier outfits. Even in the clothed WAM market, sex sells!

(Initially, Rich had more "girl next door" types and they showed less skin than the more "model-like" pie/slime targets of his recent work; my understanding is that he had to evolve in his current direction in order to stay profitable. Not saying he's purely market-driven, though; he may also genuinely prefer his current models/outfits to those in his early work. But he clearly laments the unmarketability of some of the less "sexy" and more comedy-oriented outfits that used to be staples of his work.)

I have quite a few vids from the now defunct 'Silly Gilly House'. It's a great shame nothing similar still exists in the WAM world. Tiswas-style pies and models such as Katie Green is literally my idea of WAM heaven.

Re Piejinks- I had a few of his clips, but sadly lost them due to hard drive failure. It's a shame they're not still available to buy. I absolutely loved the combination of a comedy script, a pretty girl and one, singular shaving cream pie.

Boy I wish SOMEONE had that lost ELVIRA clip.
If only they didn't let it get DESTROYED....

Yeah, PieJinx/PiesNextDoor communicated with me a few times. He was a bit frustrated by the lack of sales and I sympathized... I'd tried a few of those "single pie blackout" clips but they're really hard sells unless you group a bunch of them together. (We did it with Toshia for SS100 and that sold well, but by that point she had an established fanbase.)

I haven't been in touch with him in a long time, but it's my understanding the clips were pulled because either he or the model(s) didn't want them online anymore for privacy reasons. So you have to respect that.

I really liked BlueLeopard's stuff... The early ones, especially, were really ambitious. But he refused to sell them as downloads. (He really liked the idea of physical media and "packaging" them like mini-movies.) And that probably doomed him in the long run. Meathook is definitely the modern version of those... Right down to the "movie poster" title cards!

I think I still have some of the old Fawn/WAMF DVDs. Those are good because they're both unavailable now... and the download versions were always in much worse quality. (RealMedia files! And 240p! Ah, those days...)

I think I still have most of the Phoebe stuff (on VHS!).
"Elle's Pie Detector Test" is a great lost clip (I think the producer passed away??) and I made a point to transfer that one to DVD.
I also have a bunch of OLD clips (1990s?) from some guy named "DaBozo" (not the same as Bozo1)... It's just a lot of VHS clips strung together, similar to Neil's very early stuff. But man, the girls are REALLY cute, the pies are awesome, and the setups fantastic. Remember the old pics of the girl pied in a rain slicker? That was him. He also copied old Electric Company skits ("Oops") and slimed and pied girls wearing the infamous "striped shirt" that Moose wore in tons of old YCDTOTV episodes. That alone is all sorts of awesome.

Oh and I have a bunch of Doodmon stuff that never got released.

I have the DVD with the real Sopranos ending.

Is the DR. STRANGELOVE pie fight on the same DVD?

And the B-roll from the moon landing.

Oh wait, that might be on my VHS of The Day The Clown Cried.

Ha. Yeah, ditto. Those wam libraries that came and went during the transition from physical media to downloads are tough -- like, with all the late Crazygirls stuff that was only released digitally and not on VHS, even if you have it, it's probably so compressed it's barely watchable. At one point WAMF offered a free monthly DVD if you joined their membership site for a year, and I thought, "That's too good to be true!" So I joined and, of course, after five or six months the DVDs dried up. When I complained, they (the e-mails were signed by one of the models, not Fawn herself) were really nasty about it ... which I thought was ironic, given that they also had a habit of regularly calling out anyone here whose tone was kind of rude. But I figured I'd just barely gotten my money's worth at that point, so I let it slide. Worth it in the long run since those clips are scarce now.

Although there was a bunch of mud wrestling footage that they never released, and not getting my hands on that still drives me nuts.

The more posts I read, the more I get reminded of stuff that I either had at one time but don't any more, or never had at all, and I think I'd rather remain in blissful ignorance: Katie Green's stuff for Bill Shipton, Sticky Tara, WAMPrincess....and even just sitting here right now and thinking about UK models, I can add Messy Mercedes...

This is a depressing thread, isn't it...?

Also, the missing part of the Watergate tapes...

Sorry to be a thread downer (sic)...but it seems that the main intention of this thread is to find our who has what video(s) that are no longer available...and, so that the poster and/or reader can thus contact (PM) any poster who has some clip or file that they want (but never got, or lost, etc.)...file sharing is fine if the producers give it a pass, wink and a nod (just not openly transacted on a public forum)...

...but, if videos are no longer available by choice of the producer and /or models, then covertly sharing them through a forum private messaging site is a bit ethically problematic....Sure, it may only be a few people who want this or that clip...but I'm willing to bet that more than a few folks have already PM'd Rich about his Doodmon videos.

With out making too mich ado...Moderators might wish to consider the intent and (stealth) purpose of threads like these.

Blue Leopard did sell his stuff as downloads at some point, though. I know because that's how I bought the several videos of his that I own. He and PieJinx actually both even sold their videos on Amazon for a time. Although neither one has actually been available there for seven years or more, there are still pages up for both of them, and you can even still view trailers from both producers there! (Note: The PieJinx trailer only shows a male getting pied, despite the fact that his videos generally featured women rather than men.)

https://www.amazon.com/Piejinks-piejinks-com/dp/B001D09IQI
https://uedata.amazon.com/Piejinks-Volumes-1-7/dp/B001HZY1OS
https://www.amazon.com/Thats-Unbelievable-Blue-Leopard-Media/dp/B001CHLEWS
https://www.amazon.com/Ruby-Diamond-Blue-Leopard-Media/dp/B001CMD7OG



Uggghhh. I really wish I hadn't read this. I have a ton of the old Fawn/WAMF videos, all bought as downloads. I knew the video quality was poor, but I had totally forgotten about the fact that they used to do DVDs too, where those same classic clips that I have to watch in 240p would look so much better.

This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c65oKUrdw4

Oh and the yet to be released Leila one of course

I think WAMTEC has some of these vids as a Download -- from that download I have the second half of the Oops sketch (without the guy getting messy) and a rainslicker one. That download, amateur as it is, is one of the favorites in my collection. Something about the amateur vibe, etc. Would love to see the whole Oops sketch with the guy getting messy as well. I was around the internet WAM scene in the 1990s when a lot of this stuff was floating around, but I was newly married and a little worried about ordering stuff over the internet. Eventually warmed up to the idea and got a bunch of HC and WAMTEC tapes, but missed out on a lot of other great stuff.
Really kick myself now.

Just FYI, the clip from the image below was an early GlamourGunge effort, not the Kowalskis' (although they did help shoot it!) - it is still in our UMD store: https://girlsgetgunged.umd.net/download_info/gunge_the_stripper--fi_stevens

It will also make it to our archive store at some point... http://vidown.com/cgi/store2.pl

Yes, I did wonder if someone would pick me up on that, although the picture wasn't actually meant to be an example of a now-deleted Fi clip, and was more using my mention of some of her older scenes as a blatant excuse to show a photo of her covered in goo...

Hehe I think Rich has won this thread And Hard Drive crashes continue to be the curse of wammers worldwide. ...

/checks and confirms my collection is up to date on 3 separate disks...

I was a little young to be able to collect physical DVDs from the great early producers, my first import was from Phoebe and some random VHS cliptape with lots of Japanese scenes. I am quite proud to have saved pretty much every video / pic posted on here that I liked from 1997 onwards, but less of the paid ones.

Piejinks, Piefun and Melania remain my favourite removed videos

Here's some pics of some vids I have that could be rare I suppose, not all are commercial ones

About 15 hours of my ex-wife getting muddy on more than a dozen occasions. Was supposed to be released but we got divorced and now it's hiding on a hard drive in the closet, sealed forever. What a waist.