This happened in 1995 at my ranch in Jupiter, Florida. We had 10 models staying at my place for 6 weeks and it was like a Big Brother house with lots of constant drama. My crew and Lenny's crew were all sleeping on airbeds and cots on my patio and we had 6-10 wam fans visiting us every day. Cecile B De Lenny wrote and directed most of the pie scenes shot in my garden. I can't remember who shot this behind the scenes footage, it may have been Dr Zoidberg. Anyway, I had to edit this footage to avoid problems with Youtube. George the Supermarket Bakery Manager (Lenny's best friend) made and delivered all the pies, and got a kick out of watching the pie shoot.
This was the infamous pie scene where we ended up with mess from over 200 pies all over my garden and Lenny was supposed to clean up the mess and put it in plastic bags, but he just shoveled all the mess onto some tarps and then dragged the tarps and dumped it all in my pond -- and then the next morning I awoke to the sight of dozens of dead fish floating in my pond. Those pies George made killed my fish, and also left a permanent dead spot on my grass. I lived in that home for 9 years, and whenever Lenny did a pie shoot, it killed the grass in many different spots over the years and the grass never grew again in that spot....my garden was littered with burn marks and looked like an alien spaceship landing zone.
Bozo1 said: Who is that in the striped shirt at :38?
That is my Wamtec / Aqua Entertainment business partner Mark Y. He has his own video company called "Aqua Entertainment", Bear in mind in the 1990's I had no experience or skills at video production. I just had a ranch house and a few acres of private land and a lot of enthusiasm for shooting wet and messy models.....but I did not have the skills nor the video gear to do video production. So I formed a partnership with Mark Y because he was a professional tv producer from Detroit who had his own studio and all the video gear needed to make videos. He did all the camerawork and editing for our SSS and MARKII series of videos in the 1990's. Lenny and I were just fans and amateurs with a lot of enthusiasm and a few bucks to invest, and Mark Y was the professional film maker who brought his crew in to shoot and edit the media at his studio.
That is the deal I made with Mark Y in order to get him on our team...because Lenny and I and Mark Y had 3 different interests. I was the wetlook fan who preferred to shoot wetlook scenes, Lenny was the maestro for pies and messy scenes....and Mark Y was not interested in either wet or messy scenes, but he was very keen to shoot our girls UNDERWATER. So....I told Mark Y if he would help us produce wetlook and pie scenes, then we would let him have equal time to shoot our models underwater in my pool as well....so that is why our SSS video series always had wetlook scenes, messy scenes and underwater scenes...because we were the 3 Amigos who worked together and we devoted equal time in our shooting schedules to 3 different genres.
It is not so easy to share our videos on Youtube. They often get deleted even when I edit out all the nudity and sexy antics...I still get some trolls flagging and reporting my videos and then Youtube calls them "inappropriate" when they delete them. That is why I have disabled all comments on my Youtube channel...so my vids do not get deleted due to inappropirate comments.
Posting to YT these days is like walking on eggshells. No matter how heavily I censor and edit my footage to be YT friendly, they still do not like the Wam culture at all.
FYI I have uploaded 225 videos to my Youtube channel in the last 3 weeks, but only 50% are visible in my channel. The other 50% are unlisted videos that are not visible from Youtube and can only be seen from my Patreon channel at Patreon.com/wamtec
Thanks for posting that great footage (still pretty decent video image quality)! Seems like many of the models were Brits...did you fly them in for the shoot? Or, did you know them from their work in the States ?
These were some of my favorite web images from back in the late '90s (when I had no credit card)...just the rated-PG stuff....great to finally see the behind the scenes footage.
As for YT taking down videos and suspending channels entirely...this is a growing problem...very 'black box' too (as far as an explanation as to why)...this has happened to many folks recently...word is that they are using some new algorithm to police sites/videos (thus no explanation)...trolls can do damage too, of course, but the fairly recent increase in channel suspensions (permanent) is pointing towards automated policing.
Gettin fuckin Vietnam War style flashbacks to the sounds of English lasses squawking, arguing and catfighting on the dazzling streets of Leeds, Manchester and Newcastle watching this. Makes me really miss going out.
All Pies TV was the first pie video i ever bought, and the sight/sound of all those gorgeous women in the red tops/white skirts -- instant flashback to the beginnings of my WAM/UMD days.
Just seeing them all starting to line up was a thrill, i can't even imagine being there in person my head would explode.
thank you for posting these! i love the details about Lenny/the mess, though not that it killed the fish and ruined your lawn.
Bozo1 said: Who is that in the striped shirt at :38?
That is my Wamtec / Aqua Entertainment business partner Mark Y. Today Mark Y focuses on his SexUnderwater.com website.
MK
As a longtime fan and purchaser of some WAMTEC stuff over the years, this is great background detail on the how/why of all those videos and the various offerings.
wamajama said: Thanks for posting that great footage (still pretty decent video image quality)! Seems like many of the models were Brits...did you fly them in for the shoot? Or, did you know them from their work in the States ?
Yeah....all the girls in my 1990's shoots were Brits that I brought over to Florida for 6 weeks. I am a Brit myself and I bought a ranch in Florida in 1992, but my only WAM contacts in those days were all based in the UK. I knew Bill Shipton of Splosh magazine and I had all his magazines, so I started hiring Bill's Splosh models (like Gilly Sampson and Samantha Jane) and my UK partner in those days was Andy Wilkinson who shot videos for Bill, so Andy knew several Page 3 girls from The Sun newspaper, so Andy came over to Florida every year and brought several Splosh magazine girls and Page 3 girls with him -- so that is how all our girls in the 1990's were UK models. We basically had an annual "Big Brother house" at my ranch every year from 1992 to 1999.
By 2000 my ranch and grounds were completely ruined by all the shoots, and the girl's partying and wrecking the place.....I decided it was time to sell my Big Brother house, so I had it repainted and all the damage repaired (e.g. holes in the wall made by the girls who often party and then throw tantrums). My wife had had enough of all the antics and shenanigans so I decided to sell the house because my hair was turning grey from all the antics that took place. I sold the ranch and moved to a new house in a quiet neighborhood close to where one of my former models Tracie Z lived, and Tracie took over from me and from 2000 on we did all the shoots over at her house and garden.
What you see in the finally edited end result is a lot of videos and a lot of fun, but in reality it was a lot of stress running a Big Brother house for 9 years. Francis Ford Coppola made one of the greatest films of all time when he made "Apocalypse Now" but you should also see the documentary "Hearts of Darkness" which documents how it took Coppola 5 years to complete Apocalypse Now and all the stress he went thru trying to deal with numerous problems, especially trying to manage a difficult Marlon Brando...shooting half of film with Harvey Keitel who then quit the film and he had to reshoot most of the film again with replacement actor Martin Sheen, and then Sheen had a heart attack that left him in hospital for months That film was a triumph after 5 years of disasters during production..
The 1990's were a crazy time for me. It was a time when I had enough enthusiasm and youth for wam projects that I could handle anything, but by 2000 I was ready for an easier and more laid back life, and so was my wife. I was in my 30's back then and that is a good age to do wam projects...but once you get to 40, you want an easier life, so I passed the baton to Tracie to handle all the wam projects after 2000.
The "Golden Age" of the UMD and WAM, where we exchanged VHS tapes back and forth and we anxiously awaited Wamtec to come out with their next big shoot and Aqua Entertainment to come out with their next SSS tape.
Remember Agent H2O, Piemative Culture, Jungle Jane, and The Bully Girls???
JoeYoung2007 said: All Pies TV was the first pie video i ever bought, and the sight/sound of all those gorgeous women in the red tops/white skirts -- instant flashback to the beginnings of my WAM/UMD days.
The "Reverend" has just recently brought us a huge nine girl pie fight (and we thank him immensely for that!!!!) but I miss these days when we had eight or nine or even ten girls in an incredible pie fight.
Thanks MK for explaining why so many Brit girls featured in the videos. For some reason, I thought you were in Hollywood and they had gone all gone over to get into the movie business. And that despite the frequent mention of Florida! Anyway, great times. Can imagine the hard partying and holes in the wall!
By 2000 my ranch and grounds were completely ruined by all the shoots, and the girl's partying and wrecking the place....(e.g. holes in the wall made by the girls who often party and then throw tantrums).
Wait... what?!
My wife had had enough of all the antics and shenanigans so I decided to sell the house because my hair was turning grey from all the antics that took place.
So those antics DIDN'T keep you young as promised?
especially trying to manage a difficult Marlon Brando..
You didn't try to include Marlon Brando in your WAM shoots? Probably for the best.
Twilight Man said: The "Golden Age" of the UMD and WAM, where we exchanged VHS tapes back and forth and we anxiously awaited Wamtec to come out with their next big shoot and Aqua Entertainment to come out with their next SSS tape.
oh, man - too real/true on still to this day hearing "Weight-A-Pie" whenever that song comes up! (and occasionally, just in my head)
i still remember the day i got ALL PIES TV In the mail (VHS) -- i left work early at lunch time to make sure i intercepted the mail before my roommate got home, just in case he was like "Hey, what movie did you get?" (I think i did this a couple days in a row before it showed up)
just thinking about it now, in the age of making videos/clips one by one -- at the time, that it was a collection of pie skits/sketches and then culminated in one multi-girl sequence, all in one video, seems such an archaic novelty
boxster2 said: It just struck me that those women are over age 50!
You can't help but wonder what happened to them, page 3 girls and all.
Well, they are over 50 today. But at least 3 of the girls we brought to Florida are still active and do video and photoshoots today....i.e. Gilly Sampson and Samantha Jane still do wam shoots, and while Jo Bache has retired from Wam Shoots she is still very active with her "Legshow Jo" glamour girl leg fetish shoots today. The girls have all aged very well....can't say the same for me. I now have grey hair and a pot belly.
wamajama said: I;m picturing your biz partner flying to the States with a bevy of Page 3 models in tow...must have sucked to be him.
More than you can imagine. I had to fire the guy in the mid 90's after I found out he was running a casting couch operation in the UK and the girls complained to me about his audition practices. I split with that biz partner and then 1 year later he passed away due to a sidden heart attack, so that is when I found a new biz partner from Detroit (the guy you see in the video with a striped shirt).
You really can't imagine all the drama we went thru in those days. I aged about 10 years during the years 1994 and 1995. Joel Schumacher was a famous director who recently passed away, and it was in 1995 that he directed the fateful "Batman Forever" film with Val Kilmer....and he never fully recovered from his experience at trying to direct Val Kilmer (he thought he was another Marlon Brandp...they are called "method actors"....which is a Hollywood term for a Total A...... ). The same was true for every director who worked on a Peter Sellers film....their experience with Sellers drove them crazy. I will not name names....but in 1995 we brought over 9 girls from the UK...and 6 of the girls were great fun to work with, but 3 of them were unmanageable psycho-babes that ganged up together to cause constant mayhem and delays.
But thankfully we had 6 really great girls that year.
wamajama said: I;m picturing your biz partner flying to the States with a bevy of Page 3 models in tow...must have sucked to be him.
More than you can imagine. I had to fire the guy in the mid 90's after I found out he was running a casting couch operation in the UK and the girls complained to me about his audition practices. I split with that biz partner and then 1 year later he passed away due to a sidden heart attack, so that is when I found a new biz partner from Detroit (the guy you see in the video with a striped shirt).
You really can't imagine all the drama we went thru in those days. I aged about 10 years during the years 1994 and 1995. Joel Schumacher was a famous director who recently passed away, and it was in 1995 that he directed the fateful "Batman Forever" film with Val Kilmer....and he never fully recovered from his experience at trying to direct Val Kilmer (he thought he was another Marlon Brandp...they are called "method actors"....which is a Hollywood term for a Total A...... ). The same was true for every director who worked on a Peter Sellers film....their experience with Sellers drove them crazy. I will not name names....but in 1995 we brought over 9 girls from the UK...and 6 of the girls were great fun to work with, but 3 of them were unmanageable psycho-babes that ganged up together to cause constant mayhem and delays.
But thankfully we had 6 really great girls that year.
MK
Now unfortunately getting the idea of a WAM version of Aguirre, Wrath of God (wouldn't buy it personally but ya can't help but love that Werner Herzog next to the fuckin tree scene
So some folks think Method is a euphemism for a**hole? I never knew that!
Joel Shumacher got started a commerical director for Alka-Seltzer and ABC-7 News Chicago. Those ads still hold up and are worth finding.
Have any of you seen the Peter Sellers bio pic that ran on cable all those years ago? He seemed to have a lot emotiomal problems, even before his famous series of hear attacks.
MK: i feel your pain...still, my memory keeps flashing back to that scene from the Godfather II...wherein Hyman Roth* says "This is the business we've chosen!"
Fortunately, being a wam producer is not quite like being in the Mafia ("once you're in, there's no getting out.') ...hmmm...somehow that sounds fitting, or familiar....hmmm.
* Coincidentally (I had forgotten this fact)... Roth's character was played by Lee Strasberg, the inventor of 'method acting'