So I wanted to gauge people's overall interest level for feet, socks, and shoes-specific messy videos. Take a look at the poll and let me know where you stand! Clearly I'm exploring if it's a viable road to go down, just wondering how many of you are out there
I like a video which includes sexy girl getting messy all over, but with close-ups of her bare feet getting messy... however I have no interest in messy socks or shoes.
I have a thing for knee socks, not necessarily messy, if it's in a scene then I look at it as a plus, but I dont actively search it out or anything, and it's not a make or break on a scene either way for me, I actually prefer they stay clean, but if they get messed up I'm fine with it
Simon_Templar said: I like a video which includes sexy girl getting messy all over, but with close-ups of her bare feet getting messy... however I have no interest in messy socks or shoes.
This, pretty much.
You're asking questions about three different fetishes. I know it seems like they're intertwined since they're about feet and what's on them (if anything), but someone who's fairly exclusively into bare feet isn't going to be interested in shoes or socks. Someone who's into messy shoes isn't going to care if the model's only in her socks. And so on, and so forth.
I'm not going to complain if you start offering messy bare feet content, and I doubt anyone into messy shoes and/or socks is going to complain about you offering that content either. Just, don't think they're all the same market.
Simon_Templar said: I like a video which includes sexy girl getting messy all over, but with close-ups of her bare feet getting messy... however I have no interest in messy socks or shoes.
Yeah, what Simon said.
I'm sure you'll find people that will want it though.
You're asking questions about three different fetishes.
Yeah I mean I think I know that. I meant it to be like the 3 variables (feet, socks, shoes) are interchangeable within the question.
1. How Interested Are You in Seeing Messy Feet-Specific Videos? 2. How Interested Are You in Seeing Messy Socks-Specific Videos? 3. How Interested Are You in Seeing Messy Shoes-Specific Videos?
I have a big thing for white knee/thigh socks including hooters socks, but that is not the priority in a messy scene for me....that would be getting her hair messy...super important to me! But you obviously have that covered...some pun intended.
nintendoeater93 said: Sick of producers mixing WAM and Foot WAM Fetish
Not sure I follow you? If WAM is people getting messy, then isn't foot WAM a part of that?
My main thing is girls having stuff poured into and over their clothes, but that fairly logically then leads to them having stuff poured into their boots or shoes too, either before their clothes get it, as a teaser, or afterwards as a natural result of mess from their outfits flowing down their legs.
Genuinely curious, I can't imagine a WAM situation where the models' feet don't get messy, so doesn't it make sense to include that in the finished scene?
messy feet and shoes are great but you need to see the whole of the woman - if no face or body is shown then it could just be a mans feet chancing it like some of the others that have cropped up over the years
I prefer seeing a women wearing heels or sneakers without socks, but I also love seeing messy bare feet too. Also, a women wearing jeans barefoot is really hot to me. Socks are a major turnoff.
nintendoeater93 said: Sick of producers mixing WAM and Foot WAM Fetish
Not sure I follow you? If WAM is people getting messy, then isn't foot WAM a part of that?
My main thing is girls having stuff poured into and over their clothes, but that fairly logically then leads to them having stuff poured into their boots or shoes too, either before their clothes get it, as a teaser, or afterwards as a natural result of mess from their outfits flowing down their legs.
Genuinely curious, I can't imagine a WAM situation where the models' feet don't get messy, so doesn't it make sense to include that in the finished scene?
DungeonMasterOne said: Genuinely curious, I can't imagine a WAM situation where the models' feet don't get messy, so doesn't it make sense to include that in the finished scene?
I see what you're saying, as my models' feet almost always got messy by the end of each shoot. However, I shot quite a few scenes where I had the models sitting with their bare feet propped up in front of them while the model was pied in the face or slimed, leaving their feet clean while their head/face/upper body got completely covered. Eventually I would get their feet messy too, but it would have been easy to keep their feet clean the whole time if that's what I'd wanted to do.
I just wanted to throw that in since you said you couldn't imagine it. It does exist. I don't think I'm the only one who digs clean bare feet on a messy model. Neil Edwards used to shoot scenes like that too. Anybody else out there into clean-feet-pied-face?
I love seeing the ladies barefoot in jeans, as they're getting messy. Not necessarily seeing their feet getting messy, but that's just coincidental, based on what's going to happen to them.
Also, no toenail paint. If they're painted, just not red or pink.
Obviously I'm a big feet fan, but for me the feet don't need to be the main focus of the clip, just the model being barefoot while getting messy does it for me bonus foot shots/close ups are nice obviously but not essential for me to buy a clip
nintendoeater93 said: Sick of producers mixing WAM and Foot WAM Fetish
Not sure I follow you? If WAM is people getting messy, then isn't foot WAM a part of that?
My main thing is girls having stuff poured into and over their clothes, but that fairly logically then leads to them having stuff poured into their boots or shoes too, either before their clothes get it, as a teaser, or afterwards as a natural result of mess from their outfits flowing down their legs.
Genuinely curious, I can't imagine a WAM situation where the models' feet don't get messy, so doesn't it make sense to include that in the finished scene?
I don't know, It takes me out of it when I see producers focusing the camera on the models feet, It feels unnatural.
I don't care about their feet getting messy from the mess, it's when it's a focus, or the models wear socks for not reasons.
If feet are included I personally love to see high heeled shoes or at least tights or stockings. The rationale being... why would you take them off to get wet and messy?
I don't need feet to be the focus, though I do love those scenes too, but I love seeing a girls bare feet messy as part of the scene. It's one reason I'm so thankful you include wide angle footage in your scenes.
Do also like if they start in heels and remove them half way through the scene. Socks do nothing for me.
There is nothing more frustrating in a scene if during the set-up it shows the models feet and then the camera never again pans to them during the mess or you get only a quick half second glimpse before it cuts away. Even worse, if the camera is doing a close up shot and panning down the model, before cutting away to a completely different shot when it reaches her shins.
The foot thing has never done it for me. Never had much interest in catering to foot fetish as I would be terrible at trying to create what someone is looking for specifically.
DungeonMasterOne said: Genuinely curious, I can't imagine a WAM situation where the models' feet don't get messy, so doesn't it make sense to include that in the finished scene?
I see what you're saying, as my models' feet almost always got messy by the end of each shoot. However, I shot quite a few scenes where I had the models sitting with their bare feet propped up in front of them while the model was pied in the face or slimed, leaving their feet clean while their head/face/upper body got completely covered. Eventually I would get their feet messy too, but it would have been easy to keep their feet clean the whole time if that's what I'd wanted to do.
I just wanted to throw that in since you said you couldn't imagine it. It does exist. I don't think I'm the only one who digs clean bare feet on a messy model. Neil Edwards used to shoot scenes like that too. Anybody else out there into clean-feet-pied-face?
Aha - doing it deliberately, fair enough, hadn't thought of that. Tempted to experiment with it though it has to be said our recently released foot specialist scene hasn't been the hit we were hoping it would be, possibly because Rosemary's soles weren't visible. Having known foot fetishists in the past I really should have known to include sole shots in that one. Will remember if we do any more.
Very interesting results in the poll, while it looks at first glance as if "Meh" is the runaway winner, when you add the "I like scenes including feet" and "I like feet scenes even more than face ones" the total is just one vote short of the "Meh" score - and if you assume some of the "other" votes also like messy feet in some capacity, then the pro-feet view is actually winning.
nintendoeater93 said: Sick of producers mixing WAM and Foot WAM Fetish
Genuinely curious, I can't imagine a WAM situation where the models' feet don't get messy, so doesn't it make sense to include that in the finished scene?
I don't know, It takes me out of it when I see producers focusing the camera on the models feet, It feels unnatural.
I don't care about their feet getting messy from the mess, it's when it's a focus, or the models wear socks for not reasons.
Fair enough, ta for replying. I suppose it partly depends on the scene. we usually mess up our models lower halves first, and almost all of our mud scenes start off with the models stepping into the mud first, and then siting down or pushing each other over or whatever, so their feet naturally get messy first, and as to me the money-shots are the point at which the model's outfit or skin is meeting the mess for the first time, I'll tend to at least ensure their feet are in shot, or focus on them, as they step in. Focus will change to other areas (mostly full body shots so as not to risk missing anything) once they are right in the mudbanks and about to properly throw themselves into the mud.
In our messy sets, sometimes the girls start by filling each others shoes or boots, in which case we'll focus on that while they are doing it, or they may start on each other's clothes but then do some boot filling or foot playing part way in, if we're shooting handheld then we'll probably focus on that as they do it but pull back to full body shots afterwards. To me it seems natural to focus where the action is happening, but with enough of a pulled out view that you can see what else is happening. One of my pet hates is when someone is being pied in the face and the camera is zoomed in just on the face, so you miss all the great scenes of the model's outfit getting messy as the falling pie remains drop down her front and into her lap. When someone is having their feet done, you can focus on that without risking missing anything further up, but when heads are being done, you have to be much more pulled out to ensure none of the messing is missed. Hadn't really thought of it this way before, will give it consideration in future scenes.
I like seeing messy socks and LOVE messy heels/shoes/boots as part of a scene but solely (pun intended) focusing on them isn't necessary. I especially love seeing a girl get pissed off that her socks and shoes are getting destroyed as women always seem so protective of their shoes and boots and wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them.
Well, women's legs and feet are just so female so when a model gets messy, I always enjoy close-ups of her legs or feet too.
Personally I find a model in tights, pantyhose or nylons even more sexy, though. It wasn't until Ariel did a lot of messy things with her pantyhose and stockings that I found out how much I enjoy that part of the messy action