I know there are lots of people on here who like to SEE women - and men - getting in a right old mess. And those same folks often like to get THEMSELVES just as messy, too. But these things are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I wonder if it's even a bit of a taboo not to like both on a forum like this...?

So, how many of you really DON'T like getting messy?

I wasn't interested in getting messy until recently. I've tried a bit of self wam in the last 6 months- it was alright, not as good as watching girls get messy in my opinion.

However, the thought of a beautiful girl smearing a pie into my face is a huge turn on, although I'm yet to experience this.

The only time I get wet or messy is when I lose a game. I don't like it. But the game is the turn on for me. The chance of winning and getting the winner to do stuff - and the risk of losing and having to do it myself. same works for strip games too. I get embarrassed easily, so it's the thrill of the game!

I despise getting messy. I go to great lengths to stay clean when I am messing others up.

I derive no enjoyment from it. I am not opposed to the idea, mostly because it seems kinda unfair to expect a lady to go for it but refuse to get that way myself. But me getting that way does not in fact hold any fun for me.

Getting messy is women's work!

Interesting, in that I don't think I've ever seen a forum post that discussed this topic before. For those who are into this, they'll think what a waste it is to be married to Mrs Bee, but from the earliest I can remember, my fetish has always been viewing pretty women pied and/or messed, never imagining myself in the mix. Not sure if this means I'm a hardwired voyeur but the thought of me getting messy is neither a turn on nor a turn off. More like "meh", does nothing for me. Not sure if I had seen a different TV show growing up, or been exposed to some other trigger, things would have turned out different.

I'm also fascinated by folks who talk about their fetish morphing over the years whereas for me, I still get turned on by the same shizz that I did as, yikes, a little boy. (Shout out to Mrs Bee who not only is a natural-born Wam genius, but who herself gets turned on by being on the receiving end.)

I'm with you fellas.

Not only do I not like to get messy, but I kinda don't really enjoy administering it either! I know that might sound like blasphemy, and maybe it's because of how much work it takes to shoot videos, but I usually let my helpers do the messing. I far, far prefer watching.

That's sounds creepy,.. I'll rephrase.. I prefer the quiet solitude of my own thoughts to the hap dashery of the real world interaction.

Interesting--and loaded--question. My own two cents (and this is coming from my rather unique position so it might not apply to the rest of you)....

--IF the model wants to get "revenge" on me at the end of the shoot, that's more than fine... and any additional annoyance with cleaning myself up is offset by the goodwill of making her happy and the shoot more positive.
--IF I'm planning a specific scene where I get messy (like, REALLY messy... multiple pies and slime messy), then it's more like shooting content. It takes more time and more work, especially because I have to reasonably clean up and then shoot the "model getting messy" scene immediately after. But it's a better scene and works better for the male WAM audience than me getting some half-assed mess at the end of a scene, so that's a tradeoff.
--Solo WAMming is not something I really do. I did it recently for a custom and it was actually kinda fun (and about the same work as a normal model scene)... But I wouldn't do it just for the hell of it.

There's been several times over the years where the model and I get into coed messing, though, and that's been a lot of fun. The only caveat is that I as the producer HAVE to make sure that no lines get crossed... I'm paying the model, not dating her, so there's trust issues that need to be honored.
I'm not gonna burst anyone's bubble and say that exchanging pies with a gorgeous girl ISN'T great... because it IS... but it's not the same as WAMming with a partner. Not even close. And invariably, at the end of the shoot... It's still the model cleaning off herself, while I'm cleaning off.... Myself, AND the walls, AND the shooting room, AND the bathroom, AND the shower.

Which makes it not quite as exciting as you'd think.

I bet I'd like getting messy WAY more if I had a clone of me to handle all the cleanup.

I've never heard it called that before!

Regis, I have to say that I enjoy your off color, evil, sarcastic Witt.

But would you get messy with a Golden Girl?

I AM the Golden Girl!

I love getting as messy as I get the woman I'm messing. The equanimity is a huge part of the fun, for me. I'm relentless and merciless when I'm throwing the pies nd cakes; and I really love when she's equally as relentless and merciless. What's good for the goose.....etc

Essentially the same as Bob. I get no enjoyment from it but don't get upset when someone hits me with a pie as that would seem very hypocritical..

Sometimes naked models offer me a 'naked messy hug'..and I always politely decline which amazes them.

Equally I have no active dislike or objection. Mypie pied me once when we accidentally forgot to use a pie & were left with one at the end of filming ..and on another occasion totally trashed me once in a Maria solo scene (supposedly) where she felt revenge was in order

On both occasions it was totally cool..but I didn't actively enjoy it in either a sexual or a non-sexual way.

Also like Meathook I much prefer to see another girl doing the wamming, rather than it being me.

Until recently I had thought I was the only one who felt this way on the forum, so it's nice to see there are a handful of us

Great thread btw

I think this is an interesting discussion and I'm also amazed it hasn't come up before... I am definitely in the "don't like getting myself messy camp"...

Years ago I experimented with self-WAM however I found it deeply unsatisfying, additionally I'm into the "humiliation" side of WAM as a dominant, so for me WAM is about covering a submissive girl in slime, and therefore the only time I'm happy to get messy is if I've been WAMming a girl, and things are getting interesting and getting her clean before having sex would ruin the moment, so I'm happy to get messy whilst we get physical, and even then I'm really only getting messy from the mess all over her, rather than deliberately having mess applied to me.

Yes, I've found that this is one of those things that just doesn't work on your own.

Add me to the list as well. Never got messy, never wanted to. Absolutely love seeing women get pied and gunged and always have, but for myself? Nope. True, a "How do you know if you've never tried it?" response to that would be fair enough, but I've reason to think I wouldn't like it at all.

For example, while running a race a couple of years ago across a muddy field I slipped and got mud all up my legs. My feeling? "F**K!! I'm going to get mud all over my car now!!" The irritation factor just got worse when I got home and showered, but kept finding flakes of dried mud in places I thought I'd washed - "This stuff just gets f***ing EVERYWHERE!!". Okay, but once the annoyance had worn off, was there perhaps a little frisson, a "Wish I could have fallen face-first..."? No, not at all. And that's before we even get to a stag weekend some years ago, where we spent the time on outdoor activities (abseiling, paintballing etc) and spotted that another group at the same centre had done a mud run and all got absolutely plastered..."I'm not going to have to do that, am I?" I thought. We never got round to it, much to my relief.

But the weird thing is this is my fetish pattern, if you like. I've mentioned in other posts that I love female bare feet, but I absolutely hate going barefoot myself and never do it out of choice. (Obviously this doesn't apply to being in bed or the shower...!) I don't even own, say, a pair of flip-flops or sandals and never have. This dislike has always gone in parallel with liking feet, so I could be about six years old at school for example, and find my teacher slipping her shoes off to clamber on a desk to put a poster up very exciting (even though I didn't quite know why at the time), but then later that same day have a PE lesson in the school hall (the "forward rolls on mats" sort of thing) and hate that we all had to do that in bare feet.

I think it's a privacy thing, as mess and female feet are the two things that push my buttons and always have, but if I was to do either of them myself it would be like having a sign round my neck saying "This stuff turns me on!" and everyone would know. It's all in the eye of the beholder of course - hard to see, rationally, how me walking down the street in flip-flops would give away to a passer-by that I love women's feet - but this is, on some deep level, how I would see it.

I have no desire to get messy, and not only that but I find the idea of falling foul of slapstick mess quite unpleasant. What's more, I really only enjoy slapstick from a viewers perspective. I never imagine myself in a scene and broadly speaking have no wish to. I hope that's not hypocritical. After all, I don't control how my fetish works.

For me, the turn-on depends on the idea of getting messy as being an unpleasant thing, but in a silly and acted way. The whole thing is artificial and is much better at at least one degree of remove. And I have to believe the girls are secretly enjoying themselves otherwise it's not enjoyable for me.

The idea that you must enjoy receiving everything that you enjoy doing in a sexual sense never added up to me.

This is really interesting, I'm genuinely surprised how many of you straight guys not only don't like getting messy yourselves but are quite viscerally opposed to it (describing it as "horrifying" etc.)... I think the vast majority of gay male wammers are much more give and take, in fact most prefer getting messy themselves to messing someone else up.

I enjoy getting messy but as I've gotten older I've just really come to dread the inevitable clean up. If I had a garbage disposal in the tub or shower, I'd be good to go.

Putting aside the pain of cleanup, and (if with other people) the self-conscienceness....

I think sitting in a gunge tank next to someone else, watch them lose, get slimed, and then having my turn and the same thing happen to me would be massively enjoyable. The thrill of seeing someone else get slimed, the risk of it happening to me, and then the experience of being covered in slop are all things that excite me.

On my own, the feeling of slime inside my clothes rubbing against my body is a massive turn on.

Not that I know loads and loads of wam fans personally, but from those I have met I'd say it was actually 60/40 in favour of not liking to get messy themselves.

Genuinely shocked by that, Lisa, as of course on UMD you read so many posts from men who enjoy being wammed. I suppose because those of us who don't, don't post about it because it would be a thread going nowhere (except for this one asking who feels the same). Whereas all those who like it can post saying 'wish i was in the tank' or 'My gf messed me up and it was amazing' and everyone like minded goes..'wow yes'.

I still really don't think it will be 60/40 against, personally, but genuinely thought I might be the only one who didn't actively like it so its lovely to see others feel the same

Each to their own but it depends on the situation. Personally i love getting messy with my wife. But it has to be a mutual thing. She enjoys it so i enjoy seeing her enjoy it, always amazed that we share the fetish. Self wam alone is nowhere near as much fun as with a partner.

I'm up for getting messy

Me. I've lived with this fetish for coming up on two decades now, and not once, even for a millisecond, have I ever wanted to wam myself, or derived any pleasure from the thought of doing so.

As the recent film Nerve would have it, I'm a watcher, not a player.

(Interestingly I'm also not very hot on self-wam in videos. Much, much prefer seeing things being done to someone, not them doing it to themselves. I can count on one hand the number of self-wam videos that work for me.)

I started out being pretty indifferent to getting messy myself.

Then I tried it. Now I wouldn't dream of letting the other person have all the fun.

Of course, this assumes that I'm expecting to get messy and have dressed accordingly, which is always the case in a WAM session. If I was on my way to a wedding or something and I got ambushed with pies, I'd still be pretty annoyed. Once I'd gotten past the horrific dry-cleaning bills, etc., I'd be amused by the irony.

I have ZERO interest in getting messy myself.

I think it started for me in seeing others getting messy. I knew that right away. eventually I got messy myself and really do enjoy it as well. 'tho solo messy is very, very lame.

This most closely describes me. Before I had any sexual experience I was stimulated almost exclusively by visuals, including pictures or videos of women getting messy, but had no urge to get messy myself, finding it distasteful or even shameful (probably tangled with a lot of anxiety about appearances when I was younger).

Watching is still a big part of my enjoyment, but now I can apply my own sense-memory and imagine what it feels like; it's a whole other layer of pleasure, and I would now consider sharing the mess a normal part of the experience. I suppose one difference between adulthood and childhood (when many of us first experienced our attraction to WAM, I'd guess) is that in a mature sexual relationship getting messy is private, as opposed to the public messing that is part of GYOB, YCDTOT, Double Dare, etc. (Unless you get aroused by public messing, which is cool.)