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"From Producer to Producers-What made you decide to produce?"
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VioletVixen said: Quite late to this thread.
The first videos I made weren't with the intent to produce and sell, but mostly to document and share my journey exploring my fetish.
But mostly, I wanted to fund my play (anyone who gets messy understands the time and material cost commitment) and some toys to begin with, but then after a year or so, I started to see this could be a fun part-time job. I won't lie, the money is very motivating to push me to set-up and then clean-up - if only it were possible to only need to do the middle and most fun part of playing in the mess!
At a certain point, I got a lot more committed to producing. I looked more into color grading and some basic video editing which is a skill I wouldn't have took the time to learn if it weren't for this. But I'm a one-person show for the most part, so my output is rather limited. I currently do not have the desire to expand into a business. I still want to keep a very authentic part of myself in my work, and also avoid burn-out and keep things fun!
I hope that comes across in my vids too
If I hadn't joined this community, I would have never experimented and found joy in completely different substances as well. I'm looking forward to trying out even more new things this year that if you had asked me 3 years ago, I wouldn't have seen myself doing!
I think 3 years ago, I would have said I only have a desire to do nasty things to yogurt, cakes, cooking oil, and gourmet food. Now, I'm also enjoying paint, mud, gunge, and maybe I'll even try pies too!
The first videos I made weren't with the intent to produce and sell, but mostly to document and share my journey exploring my fetish.
But mostly, I wanted to fund my play (anyone who gets messy understands the time and material cost commitment) and some toys to begin with, but then after a year or so, I started to see this could be a fun part-time job. I won't lie, the money is very motivating to push me to set-up and then clean-up - if only it were possible to only need to do the middle and most fun part of playing in the mess!
At a certain point, I got a lot more committed to producing. I looked more into color grading and some basic video editing which is a skill I wouldn't have took the time to learn if it weren't for this. But I'm a one-person show for the most part, so my output is rather limited. I currently do not have the desire to expand into a business. I still want to keep a very authentic part of myself in my work, and also avoid burn-out and keep things fun!
I hope that comes across in my vids too
If I hadn't joined this community, I would have never experimented and found joy in completely different substances as well. I'm looking forward to trying out even more new things this year that if you had asked me 3 years ago, I wouldn't have seen myself doing!
I think 3 years ago, I would have said I only have a desire to do nasty things to yogurt, cakes, cooking oil, and gourmet food. Now, I'm also enjoying paint, mud, gunge, and maybe I'll even try pies too!
what kept me from burning out? Was I started off working with my real life sister---making fun stuff (a lot of those videos are gone) then? Ariel andrews and i became best friends and worked together a lot. She was alll about taking customs. That is all she did. That kept things interesting. Living out others fantasies and finding things in them that i also, enjoyed. Pretty soon into it? I started itching to take customs to another level-and realized quickly that some customers loved it and some did not. They liked it but they wanted something more simple. Which was shocking to me.
so? the last few years I have done my OWN stuff...which is hard. Dealing with overhead and paying models, etc. I have done messes I wanted to do but? I literally film in my home-aka-"the house of mess" I have wanted to create a more "studio" look but I soon realized that I didnt NEED to do that. This is who I am-this is what I do. I create this stuff in my home-and when im not producing? If you saw me in my daily life? (when I cant have my fun time) it is a "home" so?
I decided that I would live out my dream messes but not try to make it like a damn studio set up...bc that isnt who i am! im amateur...in my home, trying to make these dream messes come to life!
so? the whole reason for that rant was to tell you how you could maybe keep doign this without getting burnt out.
Take customs maybe? Do your own thing too when you can....and? the harsh reality I found is that you gotta spend money to make money. lol. so? I havent been making a "profit" as of late....
and? i aint too proud to beg or offer deals on scenes I want to make come to life. like? Offering customs for like minded people (of messes) and do it for free if they help me with supplies or a model fee for another model for free or something like that so I can do things I want to do and they want to see!
I love your work/play! so? keep on keeping on and maybe this will help so you dont burnout! I hope not bc I really do admire what you do
You are raunchy (in the best way) but you also create beautiful content that you can see is your own and you keep it very real. I really love that! There isn’t a mess I don’t love!
Jayce said:
what kept me from burning out? Was I started off working with my real life sister---making fun stuff (a lot of those videos are gone) then? Ariel andrews and i became best friends and worked together a lot. She was alll about taking customs. That is all she did. That kept things interesting. Living out others fantasies and finding things in them that i also, enjoyed. Pretty soon into it? I started itching to take customs to another level-and realized quickly that some customers loved it and some did not. They liked it but they wanted something more simple. Which was shocking to me.
so? the last few years I have done my OWN stuff...which is hard. Dealing with overhead and paying models, etc. I have done messes I wanted to do but? I literally film in my home-aka-"the house of mess" I have wanted to create a more "studio" look but I soon realized that I didnt NEED to do that. This is who I am-this is what I do. I create this stuff in my home-and when im not producing? If you saw me in my daily life? (when I cant have my fun time) it is a "home" so?
I decided that I would live out my dream messes but not try to make it like a damn studio set up...bc that isnt who i am! im amateur...in my home, trying to make these dream messes come to life!
so? the whole reason for that rant was to tell you how you could maybe keep doign this without getting burnt out.
Take customs maybe? Do your own thing too when you can....and? the harsh reality I found is that you gotta spend money to make money. lol. so? I havent been making a "profit" as of late....
and? i aint too proud to beg or offer deals on scenes I want to make come to life. like? Offering customs for like minded people (of messes) and do it for free if they help me with supplies or a model fee for another model for free or something like that so I can do things I want to do and they want to see!
I love your work/play! so? keep on keeping on and maybe this will help so you dont burnout! I hope not bc I really do admire what you do You are raunchy (in the best way) but you also create beautiful content that you can see is your own and you keep it very real. I really love that!
what kept me from burning out? Was I started off working with my real life sister---making fun stuff (a lot of those videos are gone) then? Ariel andrews and i became best friends and worked together a lot. She was alll about taking customs. That is all she did. That kept things interesting. Living out others fantasies and finding things in them that i also, enjoyed. Pretty soon into it? I started itching to take customs to another level-and realized quickly that some customers loved it and some did not. They liked it but they wanted something more simple. Which was shocking to me.
so? the last few years I have done my OWN stuff...which is hard. Dealing with overhead and paying models, etc. I have done messes I wanted to do but? I literally film in my home-aka-"the house of mess" I have wanted to create a more "studio" look but I soon realized that I didnt NEED to do that. This is who I am-this is what I do. I create this stuff in my home-and when im not producing? If you saw me in my daily life? (when I cant have my fun time) it is a "home" so?
I decided that I would live out my dream messes but not try to make it like a damn studio set up...bc that isnt who i am! im amateur...in my home, trying to make these dream messes come to life!
so? the whole reason for that rant was to tell you how you could maybe keep doign this without getting burnt out.
Take customs maybe? Do your own thing too when you can....and? the harsh reality I found is that you gotta spend money to make money. lol. so? I havent been making a "profit" as of late....
and? i aint too proud to beg or offer deals on scenes I want to make come to life. like? Offering customs for like minded people (of messes) and do it for free if they help me with supplies or a model fee for another model for free or something like that so I can do things I want to do and they want to see!
I love your work/play! so? keep on keeping on and maybe this will help so you dont burnout! I hope not bc I really do admire what you do
You are raunchy (in the best way) but you also create beautiful content that you can see is your own and you keep it very real. I really love that! Thanks
I am open to working things out if someone just wants to cover material costs, but is ok with me having complete creative control over what I do with them!
Your dedication and output is really inspiring
Cake Kitten =^.^= ...meow
When I was initially doing splosh
Which was with my first wife, what, 20 odd years ago
The pipeline was kinda...
let's do splosh play in private life > ooh, let's do photos and vids and share them online > let's work with others > oooh... ahhh..... so this is expensive and becoming work, what if we could sell some of the content at a low price access point to help with costs?
And that was that.
Stuff did then quickly fall apart. One of the major co-conspirators ended up stepping away from the scene for multiple reasons (never to return) and my wife then had a job offer into education and so didn't really want to keep putting out adult content
Especially as, well, we had been recognised locally and someone was weird about it.
Such is life.
I do now produce fetish/femdom with little/no splosh content (and some of the scenes we did we can't post on UMD like "OK, now you're all cold and messy - got a golden shower to warm and clean....") there was a view to make some specific splosh content (with women getting messy) and there are a couple of scenes got done - and probably there'll be more in the future but, I dunno, I remembered how little I enjoy clean ups haha
Which was with my first wife, what, 20 odd years ago
The pipeline was kinda...
let's do splosh play in private life > ooh, let's do photos and vids and share them online > let's work with others > oooh... ahhh..... so this is expensive and becoming work, what if we could sell some of the content at a low price access point to help with costs?
And that was that.
Stuff did then quickly fall apart. One of the major co-conspirators ended up stepping away from the scene for multiple reasons (never to return) and my wife then had a job offer into education and so didn't really want to keep putting out adult content
Especially as, well, we had been recognised locally and someone was weird about it.
Such is life.
I do now produce fetish/femdom with little/no splosh content (and some of the scenes we did we can't post on UMD like "OK, now you're all cold and messy - got a golden shower to warm and clean....") there was a view to make some specific splosh content (with women getting messy) and there are a couple of scenes got done - and probably there'll be more in the future but, I dunno, I remembered how little I enjoy clean ups haha
Our story is a little different I guess. I'd been on UMD for some time as well as Wetlook World that I frequented a lot more to be honest. I'd had the Dunk Tank some time and had been approached by Mad_Malc about doing a shoot. At the time it wasn't an option but circumstances changed and as part of our event business we'd taken on a small warehouse. This was the perfect place to do something and so we set up a one off shoot, more for fun than anything else. We'd never intended to put anything on here or Wetlook World.
We had a great day with some great girls as you can see from the pictures, which was our very first shoot. It wasn't long after that Malc suggested we do more shoots and the name Dunk Tank Babes was formed and we started shooting more regularly. Back then we had some help from Bob Kowlaski and Miss T who were amazing at getting us on the right track.
We did a lot of wet look shoots which was mainly our thing. All were done in a slapstick clothed kind of way which went very well. I had the mad idea of filling the tank with Gunge, I'm sure Malc thought I was crazy at the time but it worked. I managed to source Gunge powder in Bulk at sensible prices so we could actually fill the tank regularly. As many of you know we passed on this saving to others with our "Gunge Shop" that seemed to supply most UK producers at the time.
We had some amazing models who were very good at acting and playing along to scenarios. We tried recruiting actual actresses as well with experience and this again worked really well with the likes of Melisa. We had always stuck to Clothed wet look / messy but then one crazy afternoon we had Jennifer with us and between myself and Jennifer we came up with the idea of ramping things up with nudity and some more playful stuff in the tank. Both Malc and Hayley thought we were mad but that ended up being our best selling video.
We went on to to more like this including food and also building our own Gunge Tank which worked really well. I think the highlight was having beens. rice pudding and custard in the Gunge Tank with Jess West. Another crazy idea but it worked. On the subject of Crazy Ideas, another was the 300 Pies shoot we did and also Gunge Wrestling on an old bouncy castle that was so much fun.
Getting back to the question, I guess I owe a lot to Malc for coming up with the idea of progressing what was a fun afternoon. There are probably a load of people out there who would love to produce films, we took that idea and tried it.
We had a great day with some great girls as you can see from the pictures, which was our very first shoot. It wasn't long after that Malc suggested we do more shoots and the name Dunk Tank Babes was formed and we started shooting more regularly. Back then we had some help from Bob Kowlaski and Miss T who were amazing at getting us on the right track.
We did a lot of wet look shoots which was mainly our thing. All were done in a slapstick clothed kind of way which went very well. I had the mad idea of filling the tank with Gunge, I'm sure Malc thought I was crazy at the time but it worked. I managed to source Gunge powder in Bulk at sensible prices so we could actually fill the tank regularly. As many of you know we passed on this saving to others with our "Gunge Shop" that seemed to supply most UK producers at the time.
We had some amazing models who were very good at acting and playing along to scenarios. We tried recruiting actual actresses as well with experience and this again worked really well with the likes of Melisa. We had always stuck to Clothed wet look / messy but then one crazy afternoon we had Jennifer with us and between myself and Jennifer we came up with the idea of ramping things up with nudity and some more playful stuff in the tank. Both Malc and Hayley thought we were mad but that ended up being our best selling video.
We went on to to more like this including food and also building our own Gunge Tank which worked really well. I think the highlight was having beens. rice pudding and custard in the Gunge Tank with Jess West. Another crazy idea but it worked. On the subject of Crazy Ideas, another was the 300 Pies shoot we did and also Gunge Wrestling on an old bouncy castle that was so much fun.
Getting back to the question, I guess I owe a lot to Malc for coming up with the idea of progressing what was a fun afternoon. There are probably a load of people out there who would love to produce films, we took that idea and tried it.
www.gungetankbabes.com
Jayce said: hey! I thought it would be a nice little forum post to hear why us peeps decided to produce and the story behind it!
also....do you have regrets? Things you wish you had done differently? How long do you think you will continue to produce? Do you have any plans for the future that everyone would like to hear about? Also? Talk about anything else you think is worth mentioning about your journey from wammer to producer...or? like me? producer to wammer! I wanna hear it all!
I know I have a zillion answers to these questions but? im not gonna until someone asks because I am asking you all! Be real! The real deal story.
I had someone the other day, a customer of mine and also a friend-who said to me "you are a producer for a long time-I thought you made millions!" I literally, no joke, belly laughed so hard my neighbors were staring at me funny, as I was on the front porch texting. It made me wonder---does everyone think this about us producers? That when we ask for funds we are greedy fucks bc we are "millionaires"? If so, lemme explain, I cant speak for some of the big wigs around here....well, they have told me they make a lot more money than I do! but? For everyone else? I cant speak for them. I do know that the last 2-3 years have been the least amount of customs I have ever done. This year being the absolute least....and dear god. I cant do it! I have to start taking them again! So? I dont know how you producers that make your own content all the time do it....but KUDOS! I have loved having freedom in my productions but? I have to create a balance....bc? Good god. ...my models make more than me! lol! but, i love them and will always be good to them.
anyhooo....I said I wouldnt talk about myself. I do that a lot....in trying to let people know that I am one of them, that I understand? I end up sounding like an asshole who only wants to talk about herself.
So! Lets hear it! I am super interested as I have not heard a lot of peoples stories and woudl love to hear about what you would change, if you could turn back time...and why...things that you wish you didnt have to deal with as a producer and things you love to do! And everything in between.
Here are some pics of my very first custom which? I got right after I made my very first mess at home and sold it to ariel andrews.
My sister made my store, without my consent...and then? Next thing I know im answering emails and getting customs! This was a "tar and feather" striptease they asked me to use glue and black paint...
I didnt really get it that they meant for me to mix it...but? they loved it! so? That's cool! As you can see? We didnt have anything but this teeny little camcorder. ha!
Lets give them something to talk about!
also....do you have regrets? Things you wish you had done differently? How long do you think you will continue to produce? Do you have any plans for the future that everyone would like to hear about? Also? Talk about anything else you think is worth mentioning about your journey from wammer to producer...or? like me? producer to wammer! I wanna hear it all!
I know I have a zillion answers to these questions but? im not gonna until someone asks because I am asking you all! Be real! The real deal story.
I had someone the other day, a customer of mine and also a friend-who said to me "you are a producer for a long time-I thought you made millions!" I literally, no joke, belly laughed so hard my neighbors were staring at me funny, as I was on the front porch texting. It made me wonder---does everyone think this about us producers? That when we ask for funds we are greedy fucks bc we are "millionaires"? If so, lemme explain, I cant speak for some of the big wigs around here....well, they have told me they make a lot more money than I do! but? For everyone else? I cant speak for them. I do know that the last 2-3 years have been the least amount of customs I have ever done. This year being the absolute least....and dear god. I cant do it! I have to start taking them again! So? I dont know how you producers that make your own content all the time do it....but KUDOS! I have loved having freedom in my productions but? I have to create a balance....bc? Good god. ...my models make more than me! lol! but, i love them and will always be good to them.
anyhooo....I said I wouldnt talk about myself. I do that a lot....in trying to let people know that I am one of them, that I understand? I end up sounding like an asshole who only wants to talk about herself.
So! Lets hear it! I am super interested as I have not heard a lot of peoples stories and woudl love to hear about what you would change, if you could turn back time...and why...things that you wish you didnt have to deal with as a producer and things you love to do! And everything in between.
Here are some pics of my very first custom which? I got right after I made my very first mess at home and sold it to ariel andrews.
My sister made my store, without my consent...and then? Next thing I know im answering emails and getting customs! This was a "tar and feather" striptease they asked me to use glue and black paint...
I didnt really get it that they meant for me to mix it...but? they loved it! so? That's cool! As you can see? We didnt have anything but this teeny little camcorder. ha!
Lets give them something to talk about!
Try not to be discouraged. You are a friend to so many!!
A couple of factors. The first domino to fall was seeing a bunch of stuff that was poor quality. The second was having a digital camera come into my possession and a computer upgrade. Then personality kicked in - I'm easily bored and always want to learn something, and one of them was how to build a website (this was pre-Squarespace and such, and pre-UMD download store). The other was photography. Then it just cascaded from there. When I was making enough to leave my day job, I did just that.
I moved into other careers, but have always been planning to circle back properly when people stop paying me for other stuff. That'll come and I miss it - what I've found when moving to other careers is I miss the social aspect more than anything. I don't do offices and everything is mostly from home - even when was shooting out of studios, the majority of the work is ground out in front of a computer.
I'm planning on cleaning out and dusting off the home studio soon as my work shifts again. I've said it so many times before, but this time it looks like there will be a real shift.
When will I be too old? Fuck knows. When I'm bored, physically unable to, or dead.
I moved into other careers, but have always been planning to circle back properly when people stop paying me for other stuff. That'll come and I miss it - what I've found when moving to other careers is I miss the social aspect more than anything. I don't do offices and everything is mostly from home - even when was shooting out of studios, the majority of the work is ground out in front of a computer.
I'm planning on cleaning out and dusting off the home studio soon as my work shifts again. I've said it so many times before, but this time it looks like there will be a real shift.
When will I be too old? Fuck knows. When I'm bored, physically unable to, or dead.
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