I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who's been sort of put off by certain types of scenes that seem to be growing in popularity on this site. Savory WAM has been a thing as long as WAM has. I've never been into savory. No big deal, I click those scenes, see savory, and move on. Likewise, humiliation as an integral part of many scenes has been a thing as long as WAM has. The upper-crust lady who seems impeccable and untouchable getting absolutely slathered is one of the tropes this fetish was built on and continues to use (see the recent BabaSlimes Kiki as Cruella De'Ville scene). However, I've been getting the sense that for the last four or five years that certain scenes have taken a turn into an area where cruelty and how grossed out the model is seems to be a point of attraction. The use of materials that could actually make a model seriously ill (dog food comes to mind), also, somehow, seems to be a point of pride. It's a trend that not only does absolutely zero for me sexually, it actually makes me feel uncomfortable. I think a few months back I replied on somebody's post griping that there need to be more human garbage disposal scenes produced that these types of scenes actually make me feel sympathy for the model and cringe at the same time. It's one of a couple of reasons I've been visiting the UMD less and less over the last few years (the other being that my WAM scene tastes are so specific now that it's easier to just order customs from a few people who I know will deliver a great result). The reach for the best 'gross out' factor and unhappiness of the model is not yet a big niche inside our already niche fetish, but it certainly seems to be gaining ground. I'm not too jazzed about that, but if that's the way the wind is blowing, I guess I'll just be ordering more customs.
To expect us all to be into everything is hooey. If UMD didn't exist there would probably be websites for gunge tank fetishists, or extreme mess humiliation, wetlook, male etc etc. Its a fluke UMD exists as an amalgamation of distinct personal fetishes. Hence why wanting some filtering or siloing feels quite reasonable...
Clearly saying not everyone needs to be into everything. But I had to just now do a search for dog food because I have never come across that here. The issue is calling this a "mainstream wam site." But wam is already a niche so inside are even tinier niches. Go to a mainstream porn forum and it's easier, click on gangbang or amateur or whatnot.
Seems to me if you find certain producers you care for, just follow them. I see a ton of threads that don't interest me, and when I see one pop up from a producer I like I clikc it.
I'm personally kind of grossed out by some of what was mentioned but my solution has been just not clicking on it. Simple enough, no coding needed, but blocking someone on the board should be more of a universal thing (not seeing in stores along with forums). No tagging needed.
This sort of tagging scheme IMO would be a lot easier than the gender type though. Doing it properly would mean for example, separating crossdressers from people who live life other than the gender they were assigned at birth. Categorizing the two as the same is wildly offensive to the later group, and in a much broader sense it's a bad idea to go around outing people for things anyway. The existence of a tag called 'trans' is really an outdated concept at this point.
Anyway that's all a tangent and I'll stop going down it.
hope said: I'm personally kind of grossed out by some of what was mentioned but my solution has been just not clicking on it. Simple enough, no coding needed, but blocking someone on the board should be more of a universal thing (not seeing in stores along with forums). No tagging needed.
Agreed, it would seem logical that if you block someone, that would also block their stores and store content. Or perhaps have a choice, "just block user", "block all user's content including stores". No idea how easy/hard that'd be for MM to implement though.
hope said: This sort of tagging scheme IMO would be a lot easier than the gender type though. Doing it properly would mean for example, separating crossdressers from people who live life other than the gender they were assigned at birth. Categorizing the two as the same is wildly offensive to the later group, and in a much broader sense it's a bad idea to go around outing people for things anyway. The existence of a tag called 'trans' is really an outdated concept at this point.
Totally agree re Crossdressers - TBH that should be a content tag entirely of its own, and I should have included it in my list.
The reason I put "Trans people" as one of the options in my suggested list (which was primarily intended to demonstrate how complex such a system would be) was for the people who like to be very explicitly out about it. There is or was a trans male porn actor called something like "V for Vagina" - he looked and acted 100% cis male, but then stripped off to reveal a vulva, and I've also seen the same thing in reverse, someone who appears to be a fairly petite (and very feminine) woman stripping down to deliberately reveal an enormous erect penis. Possibly a generational thing, from the era before wide acceptance of LGBT rights? I'm guessing folk doing that sort of thing would want a Trans tag?
But yes, absolutely, crossdressing for fetish reasons is completely different from being trans, and the two shouldn't be conflated.
It seems like it would be easier all-around to give people the ability to block/hide certain producers/stores than it would be to rely on producers/stores to tag their content manually.
I don't mind scrolling past content I don't like to see, but unless I'm misunderstanding the original post it seems like the above would give everyone the ability to tailor their own site experience as they see fit.
DungeonMasterOne said: Totally agree re Crossdressers - TBH that should be a content tag entirely of its own, and I should have included it in my list.
The reason I put "Trans people" as one of the options in my suggested list (which was primarily intended to demonstrate how complex such a system would be) was for the people who like to be very explicitly out about it. There is or was a trans male porn actor called something like "V for Vagina" - he looked and acted 100% cis male, but then stripped off to reveal a vulva, and I've also seen the same thing in reverse, someone who appears to be a fairly petite (and very feminine) woman stripping down to deliberately reveal an enormous erect penis. Possibly a generational thing, from the era before wide acceptance of LGBT rights? I'm guessing folk doing that sort of thing would want a Trans tag?
But yes, absolutely, crossdressing for fetish reasons is completely different from being trans, and the two shouldn't be conflated.
You are correct, trans porn is an entire category where there's some kind of big reveal like you mentioned. It's still a thing. I actually have a local friend who's been solicited to make some last fall. If I had to guess it must be a fetish based on a mismatch between what one's eyes see at first and then the 'surprise' when clothes start coming off.
I don't know if that's a thing here because (unabruptly merging back on topic ) it's explicit and I like non-explicit a lot more. If things come off before there's great fully clothed coverage I keep on scrolling.
Doing it properly would mean for example, separating crossdressers from people who live life other than the gender they were assigned at birth. Categorizing the two as the same is wildly offensive to the later group, and in a much broader sense it's a bad idea to go around outing people for things anyway. The existence of a tag called 'trans' is really an outdated concept at this point.
You're right. And I agree.
If one was born male but now lives as a female, then wearing a dress is not crossdressing. And the mud-loving crossdressers I have known (three over 20 years) were born male with no plans to change.
They could split it into two different tags, I suppose, but the common rabble probably does not understand.
But "trans" should at least be re-named. How, I'm not sure.
I come here and I want to see it all. Every single thing inspires me. Some things I see I'm like "woooo! I hope she got paid a lot for that!" Lol but some things I would never try? I'm like "I wanna try that!" I don't think more filters are needed. I think that this place? Is simply the best place to find wam of all kinds. Skim past it. It's as easy as that. If you wanna find something? (If this is the case where you feel you can't find something in particular you want) I would suggest letting any producer you see doing it? Let them know or say something to them about making sure they tag "that" that you like so other producers can see that too and do the same. Mm already does enough and this site is free. We can't have it ALL exactly how we want it. Our kinks are just too broad! As far as seeing things? Man. That's just what you get coming to an equal opportunity wam site! Scroll.don't let things you don't like get in your head or make you feel strange for coming here. This place is what it is! A great place to find it all!
I don't see how tagging would work. Would there be a checkbox that says "This is gross" when you make a post? Ideally you'd want an exclusion filter built into your profile that you can add keywords to, like "savory" "savoury" "dog food", etc. Then you would only see posts (threads are another matter) that did not contain those keywords in the body of the text. But it could be a LOT of extra work for the server if those keyword lists get long making the Forum/Stores slower for everyone. How much slower I don't know.