There are a couple of mud wrestling scenes from the 80s that are impossible to find.

1) 4 LA girls mud wrestling to the soundtrack of Pat Benatar's "Hit me with your best shot" from the old music show Solid Gold - series 1, episode 11

2) A variant of the 80s show, "Games People Play" called "Sunday Games" with a scene on mud wrestling

Both scenes were great, but i've not been able to locate...

That is an easy one. That is not a lost clip. That is oiur model Iva. I have it on 3 of my websites. I can try to put it on my Youtube channel in the near future, but it may need some careful re-editing and censoring because YT keep taking down my clips.

I am pretty sure I have all the clips from the Italian, Romanian and Polish versions of Ciao Darwin. My contacts used to send me their clips all the time. I do not have the time to hunt for it right now....but CTRL F (find) to search for it in my database listings ...

https://wamtec.com/Old_to_New.txt

MK

As for the lost scenes I would most like to find.....Hurley listed many of them. I could list dozens but here are 2 I would like to see before I kick the bucket....

1) The episode of "Entertainment Tonight" where Mary Hart and Maria Shriver both got pied.

2) A mid 60's episode of "The Steve Allen Show" where there were several Playboy bunnies as guests and there was a mass pie fight where all the girls got pied.

I hope that some day the British Film Institute will release the alternate mass pie fight ending to "Dr Stranglelove". It was cut from the original film and re shot with an A Bomb ending instead because the dialogue by Peter Sellers during the pie fight was deemed to be inappropriate due to the Kennedy assassination at that time. Stanley Kubrick did not destroy the footage (as Groucho did with the Esther Muir scene), and kept the footage locked away in his vault for decades. It was only seen when Kubrick died and it was shown at a private screening at his wake. The Kubirick Estate then donated the footage to the BFI...who hold it today...and have yet to release it to any company (i.e. Critereon) for a new Blu Ray restoration. Perhaps one day we may see a new restored Blu Ray that included the deleted pie scene.

https://www2.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/rare-images-dr-strangelove-custard-pie-fight

MK

Actually I need to correct myself on Remote Control. I got confused on the episodes b/c the women in 2 of the episodes sort of look alike (kinda big 80s blonde hair) and were wearing the same color top

so all three female pieings (that are confirmed known at least) are available (or are floating around)

The one I thought was 'lost' (Nancy/Dan/Beth) is one of the two that is available on Slapstick Stuff's 1980s "College Madhouse" clip archive file. The SS clip file also has the pieing from Clayton/Jamie/Russell. both clips are towards the end of the file

I also have another copy of the Clayton/Jamie/Russell (complete show with more aftermath/clean up), the quality is a toss-up between the SS file and this one (each has pros and cons on different areas, though I give the nod to the SS clip). I also have the complete episode of Laura/George/Lisa which had pieing for snack break, with 2 women

The Laura/George/Lisa show also has one of the female assistant hosts pieing a male assistant host/performer (not adam sandler or colin quinn).

Laura/George/Lisa and Clayton/Jamie/Russell were on YT as of early 2020 but those specific uploads got pulled. However, if you nose around you should be able to find another source for both.

Thanks for this kind offer. I have emailed you...maybe we can unite one man with his dream scene

Aviva, Spring Break 83. Classic unintended target (duck and miss) type hit. Looks great. After 13 years I'm fairly resigned that this is all we shall ever see.

Thanks for detailing the Remote Control clips.

I have a memory of one where the cute female assistant pied one of the guys... maybe it's the Laura/George/Lisa episode.

Don't suppose you have it or know where to find?

I'm remembering an old Richard Bey episode where the guys being interviewed are all Howard Stern fanatics.

At the end they all get pied by the female assistants, and one guy got it really good.

The mud fight from the show "Io Jane Tu tarzan" (Italy, 1999) I know a lot of WAM fans dying to locate this scene.

I searched your site for 274009-274011 but I never saw them posted

For me it would be anything with Sofia from Messyangel. I know she did 4 WAMscenes but would love to know if shes done more, or even find any non wam vids

I guess her surname would be a good start haha

In the early days of Youtube, someone made an account that uploaded a whole ton of WAM clips from both TV and fetish sites. Most of the ones I remember have since been uploaded elsewhere, but there was one from an old fetish site with two ladies getting each other in a "bakery" with hats filled with mess that I've never seen again or been able to find in stores of old clips. I'm sure someone knows it, any help would be appreciated!

I gave up on the Spring Break 83 movie a long time ago. What a shame as it really looks like a great scene. There's been some pics throughout the years although I don't remember seeing one where it looked like Sophie Monk got it.

Still no luck finding the late 70s ad for TV Week magazine (aired locally in NYC, almost exclusively on WPIX) where the pretty brunette spokesmodel gets BLASTED with a pie in extreme close-up.

There was a long discussion about this back in 2014 (now I feel old!):
https://umd.net/forums/uk_question_was_zoe_ball_ever

Someone had access to the BBC archive, but wasn't able to track down the footage, so the only chance of seeing that is a YouTube upload from a private VHS recording (if one exists).

I've never seen this turn up on any classic "lost clips" list or discussion. What was the setup for the pie?

For me it is more indy stuff. I remember in the mid 2000's there was a Canadian WAM producer that had a few nice scenes that they did. One of them was a formal pie fight. I know there were at least 3 models in the scene.

This is a great thread. Thanks to all.

What Rich said. It seems like to many here are fans of what I call WAM porn. Bypassing any resemblance to a comedy or teal life situation and going straight to the fetish material. This is not a criticism just an observation.

Count me among the fans of mainstream pies/mess and producers' who go for that vibe. It's been discussed here many times before how under the WAM umbrella are many specific sub-groups. I'm all for anything that advances the fetish and all that brings folks pleasure

With that out of the way I'll echo the post about that Jonathan Winters Show sketch. There were at least 2 smokin hotties plastered .., never saw it agai but never forgot it. Some others: the complete Dating Game scene where the bachelorette sets up each guy to miss a question and take a pie. One guy saved a pie and nailed the girl who seemed legit shocked. A version is out there on one of Marks Hurley clips... but by the time the VCR kicked in the chick was already pied.

There's a scene in the old Smothers Brothers Show where Pat Paulson sets it up like he's going to kiss a beautiful blonde but pies her instead. Don't know if that's for sale or available anywhere.

The Howdy Doody show has a couple of pie scenes out there of the really cute female cast member getting it, but the best pie scene from that show can't be found, at least not by me. It's the old "answer the door knock, get a pie" routine featuring the same cute girl.

These are just a few that come to mind.

Thanks for a great thread

which howdy doody actress are you refering to and where are these clips?

Any episodes of this was with Pass the Pie on them with an adult female taking part.

I'm sure I remember one with Aneka of Japanese Boy fame taking part.

I'd really like to know too. Sounds intriguing.
Did a little research, and TV Week was an Australian-only magazine.... Why were they running ads in NYC then? That's a little confusing. Maybe the OP got the name wrong?

Here it is. Prepare yourselves for anticlimax, though. The best bits by far were already in the old edits from the 'surviving footage' (aside from a carpet being pied and an additional sequence with the Mayor)

For the first time, though, the action runs 100 percent in motion, including the wide 'chaos' shots previously only shown as stills.

https://vimeo.com/405802519

No, I think there was a mag by the same name in parts of the U.S. (A cheap competitor to TV Guide). And he mentioned a specific NYC TV station by its call letters (WPIX) - I doubt most Aussies would have heard of it. I think it was probably a NYC ad, but maybe he does have the name wrong.

In any case, I found a few late 70s WPIX compilations on YouTube, but no luck. If it had aired in the 80s or 90s, we'd have a better shot. (More and more VCRs in use every year, more old dusty VHS tapes being ripped to YouTube.) He did say it aired a lot, so that helps the odds.

After extolling the virtues of TV Week (short-lived wannabe TV Guide rival) she concludes with the tag line "TV Week magazine. Colorful...and sophisticated!" (SPLAT)

Well, at least it aired a lot during the late-afternoon cartoon/Three Stooges block. Never did see it any other time of day, on any other station.

This sounds like the "Hatfield Bakery" scene by WAMF. It starred Cree and some other girl with short red hair. I have a couple short clips from this.

As further support for the name TV Week being correct, TV Week (Magazine) appears to have been a newspaper insert in papers in several major markets. In New York, it was in the Daily News. See a 70s era cover here https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9fUAAOSwoPtbHs9H/s-l1600.jpg It appears to have continued until early 2020

Also saw the name TV Week linked with Philadelphia Inquirer and Chicago Tribune; however, the logo on each's cover was different, so it may not have been the same magazine. Though the cover difference could have just been for each paper's own branding and it still may have been a syndicated insert (which seems to make more sense). If the same magazine was syndicated, that could expand the potential sources for the ad to compilations of old ads from channels in other cities

TV Week Magazine (US Version) was published by the New York Daily News and included as a supplement to Sunday edition I believe.