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"A Note About Jessica25"
Love you, too
Part of me feels compelled to say something... anything... to show my concern, but...
...so many posts on here get such negative feedback either from misunderstanding or people trying to be open and honest about their opinions or what they controbute as facts that its' scary. I know some drama is a part of life, but... does all of it have to be on here too?
it's just sad the way our world seems to be today for whatever reason.
As a lurker here for a good while and a friend to many others, its' very detering but necessary sometimes to acknowledge some things that are just facts of life:
People aren't always who they say they are or appear to be, but you want to give the benefit of the doubt and be fair as well as open, for life without others is empty.
You don't always know the whole story, but some believe they do. You want to be fair and defend something, but often can't without making an enemy.
You want someone to talk to and be there for you, but are scares to friend others.
You want to reach out to someone you like or admire, but don't want to scare them off.
You want to be there for someone or at least be friendly, but can't be bombarded.
It's sad how many topics just in this fourm alone this applies to.
Again, some of this is necessary; people deserve to know why something is happening with respect to the parties involved. People have a right to voice their opinions and get it out of their system. Talking in agreement or sisagreement helps us learn, however painful. Both good and bad things can bring people together as much as tear them apart.
I just felt it was necessary to say all this and acnowledge these facts before we lash out or shun to harshly. Sometimes we must, but its' hars to take back. We must all be careful if we want to do what is right. It shows you truly care when you do.
Thank you
...so many posts on here get such negative feedback either from misunderstanding or people trying to be open and honest about their opinions or what they controbute as facts that its' scary. I know some drama is a part of life, but... does all of it have to be on here too?
it's just sad the way our world seems to be today for whatever reason. As a lurker here for a good while and a friend to many others, its' very detering but necessary sometimes to acknowledge some things that are just facts of life:
People aren't always who they say they are or appear to be, but you want to give the benefit of the doubt and be fair as well as open, for life without others is empty.
You don't always know the whole story, but some believe they do. You want to be fair and defend something, but often can't without making an enemy.
You want someone to talk to and be there for you, but are scares to friend others.
You want to reach out to someone you like or admire, but don't want to scare them off.
You want to be there for someone or at least be friendly, but can't be bombarded.
It's sad how many topics just in this fourm alone this applies to.
Again, some of this is necessary; people deserve to know why something is happening with respect to the parties involved. People have a right to voice their opinions and get it out of their system. Talking in agreement or sisagreement helps us learn, however painful. Both good and bad things can bring people together as much as tear them apart.
I just felt it was necessary to say all this and acnowledge these facts before we lash out or shun to harshly. Sometimes we must, but its' hars to take back. We must all be careful if we want to do what is right. It shows you truly care when you do.
Thank you
kipperflew2 said: Just my point of view, but simply banning Jessie/Mike for what he/she/they've done could be seen as getting off lightly. In some jurisdictions it's actually a crime to engage in shilling of this kind - loaded competitions, shill accounts, artificial driving of sales by devious means etc. Sites such as Etsy and ebay have stern warnings against it and it's also illegal in some places to do things like post fake reviews of one's own business. So I think, MM, you might consider appending this as a warning under the terms of use.
False advertising with fake reviews is illegal in some states. Running rigged contests could also have legal consequences if the people who paid money for the contest decided to sue.
While I certainly do not consider MM at fault for any of this and am glad to you see the people committing fraud are being kicked off the site I would strongly suggest banning activities that could be easily fraudulent. If producers are going to run contests or raffles it's clearly easy for that to be rigged. To avoid any legal liability it might be best to no longer allow that. If people want to do a contest do it on FB or Twitter. This isn't the first time someone has been kicked off the site for their behavior and this thread sadly just might be giving other people ideas on how to boost their rankings.
grm said: Expecting decent and ethical behaviour from people whose profession it is to tease your cock until you use it to open and empty your wallet is a touch naive.
Seriously, what the fuck are you on? I've met quite a few producers on the UMD at the splunches, LSG, etc and they are all really nice. Most of the ladies are virtually the template of strong, female business owners! Not only that, but they're really nice and fun people (if your business is to cover yourself in mess, a good sense of humour is pretty important!).
So, no: the ladies here are inspiring. I have to be honest, some of the ladies on here have influenced my transition more than I would probably admit - watching WAM videos and realising that I identified with the model rather than just being the person getting the gunge was very formative to my transition.
Also, strong women working in the sex industry is pretty much the feminist ideal. You need to reassess your toxic attitude toward women.
newpieguy09 said: Part of me feels compelled to say something... anything... to show my concern, but...
I just felt it was necessary to say all this and acnowledge these facts before we lash out or shun to harshly. Sometimes we must, but its' hars to take back. We must all be careful if we want to do what is right. It shows you truly care when you do.
Thank you
I just felt it was necessary to say all this and acnowledge these facts before we lash out or shun to harshly. Sometimes we must, but its' hars to take back. We must all be careful if we want to do what is right. It shows you truly care when you do.
Thank you
For the most part, I agree with you, and I've no doubt the internet would be a better place if your guidelines were applied to it. However, with respect, I think you're backing the wrong horse here.
The charges against Jessie/Mike, which I'm sure are justified because of who they're coming from, are that they have defrauded the sales process on here, been rude and abusive to customers, spread damaging, slanderous lies about other producers, and misled people - especially female users, who thought they were dealing with another woman - that they were talking to Jessie when in fact they were talking to Mike. This adds up, as others have said, to a major breach of trust.
The only way in which some leeway might be justified is if it were to emerge that a lot of it was done by Mike without Jessie's knowledge. Unfortunately, I don't think that's true. I've swapped PMs with a couple of producers who have first-hand knowledge of what's gone on, and they both said Jessie's been as much a part of it as he has. And that's on top of the individual stories people have told on this thread that point to the same thing. All that leaves, for those of us who sadly remember the "old", sweet Jessie, is the possibility that Jessie's been manipulated herself, and so deserves some sympathy. However, that's just conjecture, and I assume she'd have to leave the guy before we could even begin to have that conversation.
No, I'm afraid MM's got them bang to rights. What they've done is bad, and especially in a community catering to a sexual fetish where trust is so important. I've been here in one way or another since about 2005, and this is the biggest fall from grace I can think of, and certainly the one that has affected the greatest number of people on UMD.
As I said, I did like the spirit of your post, really. I just think there are more deserving cases for your tolerance than this one. Sorry.
moreslime said:
For the most part, I agree with you, and I've no doubt the internet would be a better place if your guidelines were applied to it. However, with respect, I think you're backing the wrong horse here.
The charges against Jessie/Mike, which I'm sure are justified because of who they're coming from, are that they have defrauded the sales process on here, been rude and abusive to customers, spread damaging, slanderous lies about other producers, and misled people - especially female users, who thought they were dealing with another woman - that they were talking to Jessie when in fact they were talking to Mike. This adds up, as others have said, to a major breach of trust.
The only way in which some leeway might be justified is if it were to emerge that a lot of it was done by Mike without Jessie's knowledge. Unfortunately, I don't think that's true. I've swapped PMs with a couple of producers who have first-hand knowledge of what's gone on, and they both said Jessie's been as much a part of it as he has. And that's on top of the individual stories people have told on this thread that point to the same thing. All that leaves, for those of us who sadly remember the "old", sweet Jessie, is the possibility that Jessie's been manipulated herself, and so deserves some sympathy. However, that's just conjecture, and I assume she'd have to leave the guy before we could even begin to have that conversation.
No, I'm afraid MM's got them bang to rights. What they've done is bad, and especially in a community catering to a sexual fetish where trust is so important. I've been here in one way or another since about 2005, and this is the biggest fall from grace I can think of, and certainly the one that has affected the greatest number of people on UMD.
As I said, I did like the spirit of your post, really. I just think there are more deserving cases for your tolerance than this one. Sorry.
newpieguy09 said: Part of me feels compelled to say something... anything... to show my concern, but...
I just felt it was necessary to say all this and acnowledge these facts before we lash out or shun to harshly. Sometimes we must, but its' hars to take back. We must all be careful if we want to do what is right. It shows you truly care when you do.
Thank you
I just felt it was necessary to say all this and acnowledge these facts before we lash out or shun to harshly. Sometimes we must, but its' hars to take back. We must all be careful if we want to do what is right. It shows you truly care when you do.
Thank you
For the most part, I agree with you, and I've no doubt the internet would be a better place if your guidelines were applied to it. However, with respect, I think you're backing the wrong horse here.
The charges against Jessie/Mike, which I'm sure are justified because of who they're coming from, are that they have defrauded the sales process on here, been rude and abusive to customers, spread damaging, slanderous lies about other producers, and misled people - especially female users, who thought they were dealing with another woman - that they were talking to Jessie when in fact they were talking to Mike. This adds up, as others have said, to a major breach of trust.
The only way in which some leeway might be justified is if it were to emerge that a lot of it was done by Mike without Jessie's knowledge. Unfortunately, I don't think that's true. I've swapped PMs with a couple of producers who have first-hand knowledge of what's gone on, and they both said Jessie's been as much a part of it as he has. And that's on top of the individual stories people have told on this thread that point to the same thing. All that leaves, for those of us who sadly remember the "old", sweet Jessie, is the possibility that Jessie's been manipulated herself, and so deserves some sympathy. However, that's just conjecture, and I assume she'd have to leave the guy before we could even begin to have that conversation.
No, I'm afraid MM's got them bang to rights. What they've done is bad, and especially in a community catering to a sexual fetish where trust is so important. I've been here in one way or another since about 2005, and this is the biggest fall from grace I can think of, and certainly the one that has affected the greatest number of people on UMD.
As I said, I did like the spirit of your post, really. I just think there are more deserving cases for your tolerance than this one. Sorry.
That's fine. Honestly, I wasn't trying to imply one side over the other, just that the situation and too many like it are so...sad. Guess it was just me opening up to try and get all that's been happening here and around the world out of my system. :/
Well, I guess that this thread can be easily closed as Jessica is no longer answering here, doesn't/can't want to answer again. Where is the truth? What is the best thing to do? Ban her or leave her a chanche so she can rehabilitate herself?
As for me,I am pretty sure Jessica's wam career here at Umd is over or near to it.
Good luck for all!
As for me,I am pretty sure Jessica's wam career here at Umd is over or near to it.
Good luck for all!
The world belongs to visionary people!
I would agree that this thread should probably be locked. Beyond MM's initial announcement and providing of evidence in his second post, I don't think that this has been a productive discussion.
Sharing shock and outrage while dragging Jessie through the mud isn't necessary. She has already been punished in a way which will dramatically change her life. It isn't necessary for us to twist the knife any further.
It especially isn't necessary to drag someone's personal life into this. We all appreciate being able to separate our lives from out interest in the fetish and should accord Jessie the same courtesy. All that matters is that rules were broken, the site was manipulated, a punishment has been dealt out, and we should all move on.
Sharing shock and outrage while dragging Jessie through the mud isn't necessary. She has already been punished in a way which will dramatically change her life. It isn't necessary for us to twist the knife any further.
It especially isn't necessary to drag someone's personal life into this. We all appreciate being able to separate our lives from out interest in the fetish and should accord Jessie the same courtesy. All that matters is that rules were broken, the site was manipulated, a punishment has been dealt out, and we should all move on.
Jessie, all I can say is liberate yourself.
Life is a messy business (fortunately)
Hi everyone,
My children broke up for half term for a weeks holiday on Friday 16th February. They will be back to school on Monday 26th February. I have clearly stated that I will talk to the UMD on Monday 26th, AFTER I have ensured the children have had a lovely week. There is no need to lock this thread.
If I respond to any content or accusations or misinformation or true events now, it will prompt responses that will distract from the kids activities. The only exception is to say that the date that this weekends activities have been arranged since is September 11th 2017 as it was actually agreed in court in regard of my sons custody agreement and his father. Therefore, bizarrely, I actually have a written court document that states his holiday this week is with me.
I emailed MM at 10:10am GMT on Thursday 15th February to let him know the holiday time with the children would affect me having time to do any work on the UMD store. Here is the content of the email,
'I have a practical problem regarding the cut off on February 28th. It's half term from this Friday until Monday 26th so I will be busy with the children and won't be able to do what I need to do with my account on UMD. Would you be willing to give me an extension?
It's taken me around 2 years to get the content on so it's going to take me a good while to get all I need off.'
Also, I am aware of the 47 emails of support, custom requests and film requests that have landed so far. Thank you for those and please do make your enquiries, but give me a week after next Monday to respond.
I am going back to the children and my dad and family now until Monday.
Jessie
My children broke up for half term for a weeks holiday on Friday 16th February. They will be back to school on Monday 26th February. I have clearly stated that I will talk to the UMD on Monday 26th, AFTER I have ensured the children have had a lovely week. There is no need to lock this thread.
If I respond to any content or accusations or misinformation or true events now, it will prompt responses that will distract from the kids activities. The only exception is to say that the date that this weekends activities have been arranged since is September 11th 2017 as it was actually agreed in court in regard of my sons custody agreement and his father. Therefore, bizarrely, I actually have a written court document that states his holiday this week is with me.
I emailed MM at 10:10am GMT on Thursday 15th February to let him know the holiday time with the children would affect me having time to do any work on the UMD store. Here is the content of the email,
'I have a practical problem regarding the cut off on February 28th. It's half term from this Friday until Monday 26th so I will be busy with the children and won't be able to do what I need to do with my account on UMD. Would you be willing to give me an extension?
It's taken me around 2 years to get the content on so it's going to take me a good while to get all I need off.'
Also, I am aware of the 47 emails of support, custom requests and film requests that have landed so far. Thank you for those and please do make your enquiries, but give me a week after next Monday to respond.
I am going back to the children and my dad and family now until Monday.
Jessie
Answers like that are why I am not ruining the kids holiday. MM will be able to confirm this is me. I'm not responding to anything else until Monday.
"It's taken me around 2 years to get the content on so it's going to take me a good while to get all I need off.'
Also, I am aware of the 47 emails of support, custom requests and film requests that have landed so far. Thank you for those and please do make your enquiries, but give me a week after next Monday to respond.
I am going back to the children and my dad and family now until Monday.
Jessie"
I'm sorry but i disagree with this ive never yet shot as many video's as leon or yourself but i have all my video's backed up twice i cant believe that that isnt the case for yourself ? i mean you must of had a copy of the files to upload in the first place
heaven forbid what would of happened if umd went down
Also, I am aware of the 47 emails of support, custom requests and film requests that have landed so far. Thank you for those and please do make your enquiries, but give me a week after next Monday to respond.
I am going back to the children and my dad and family now until Monday.
Jessie"
I'm sorry but i disagree with this ive never yet shot as many video's as leon or yourself but i have all my video's backed up twice i cant believe that that isnt the case for yourself ? i mean you must of had a copy of the files to upload in the first place
heaven forbid what would of happened if umd went down
I'm not sure why replying to these accusations would ruin the kids' holiday.
You've found the time to log on regularly to the site & even bothered to count the number of comments.
I'm not sure why - given the importance you place on the revenue you're getting from WAM - you can't post a reply explaining where MM has got anything factually wrong.
Your best chance to put us all right is now.
I wish you all the best from a personal perspective but from a Business perspective I feel there are some simple questions you should be able to respond to quite easily.
If you lose the trust and respect of your customers now it may be harder to win our support in the future.
You've found the time to log on regularly to the site & even bothered to count the number of comments.
I'm not sure why - given the importance you place on the revenue you're getting from WAM - you can't post a reply explaining where MM has got anything factually wrong.
Your best chance to put us all right is now.
I wish you all the best from a personal perspective but from a Business perspective I feel there are some simple questions you should be able to respond to quite easily.
If you lose the trust and respect of your customers now it may be harder to win our support in the future.
I will not get into breaking rules, personal stuff or any of that. I don't pay enough attention to the forums to keep up with most of it. I do have a question though.
Why are Jessie' s files not backed up? Even if the files are 1GB each (and I don't have any videos that big) that would take at max a 3TB hard drive to have backed up. A 4TB external hard drive can be gotten off Amazon for about $100, so I'm curious as to why they aren't backed up when it is a business.
That is my piece. Best of luck.
Why are Jessie' s files not backed up? Even if the files are 1GB each (and I don't have any videos that big) that would take at max a 3TB hard drive to have backed up. A 4TB external hard drive can be gotten off Amazon for about $100, so I'm curious as to why they aren't backed up when it is a business.
That is my piece. Best of luck.
~Avarice
Lilynight said: I will not get into breaking rules, personal stuff or any of that. I don't pay enough attention to the forums to keep up with most of it. I do have a question though.
Why are Jessie' s files not backed up? Even if the files are 1GB each (and I don't have any videos that big) that would take at max a 3TB hard drive to have backed up. A 4TB external hard drive can be gotten off Amazon for about $100, so I'm curious as to why they aren't backed up when it is a business.
That is my piece. Best of luck.
Why are Jessie' s files not backed up? Even if the files are 1GB each (and I don't have any videos that big) that would take at max a 3TB hard drive to have backed up. A 4TB external hard drive can be gotten off Amazon for about $100, so I'm curious as to why they aren't backed up when it is a business.
That is my piece. Best of luck.
You have to have a complete lack of common sense and/or professionalism to be a producer who doesn't back up files. I have content dating back to 2008 on a variety of hard drives and on servers. I'm having a hard time understanding people expressing sympathy for someone who thinks it's ok to commit fraud and blame others for their lack of business sense. MM already shared the evidence of fraud the producers forum so I don't know why her account is still active. Continuing with the lies and drama seems unnecessary.
erictheviking said: I'm not sure why replying to these accusations would ruin the kids' holiday.
You've found the time to log on regularly to the site & even bothered to count the number of comments.
I'm not sure why - given the importance you place on the revenue you're getting from WAM - you can't post a reply explaining where MM has got anything factually wrong.
Your best chance to put us all right is now.
I wish you all the best from a personal perspective but from a Business perspective I feel there are some simple questions you should be able to respond to quite easily.
If you lose the trust and respect of your customers now it may be harder to win our support in the future.
You've found the time to log on regularly to the site & even bothered to count the number of comments.
I'm not sure why - given the importance you place on the revenue you're getting from WAM - you can't post a reply explaining where MM has got anything factually wrong.
Your best chance to put us all right is now.
I wish you all the best from a personal perspective but from a Business perspective I feel there are some simple questions you should be able to respond to quite easily.
If you lose the trust and respect of your customers now it may be harder to win our support in the future.
I have stayed out of this so far but as a Producer we've clearly been affected by what's gone on in the. In addition, Hayley has been going through many of the same issues as you and actually felt your pain when you were in hospital. It was clear that when you returned to UMD the dynamic had changed and something wasn't right, we now know that was Mike's influence.
Erictheviking has hit the nail on the head, yes kids are important but this is the equivalent of being dismissed for gross misconduct in a conventional job. Coupled with the fact that there would seem to be a case for Fraud by Misrepresenattion which could be a criminal matter and possible claims by other producers who have lost out and could prove a downturn in sales I would have assumed that you would be giving this 110% to resolve matters.
As for backing up videos, I don't know any producer who doesn't have multiple back ups or even using other sites such as the mothership.
www.gungetankbabes.com
Regis said:
Oh, man, I hate to break this to you ... but that was actually Mike pretending to be Chainsaw John's penis.
Bigshipper said:
Ah, but what a penis!
AW2 said: Back in the olden days all we would have to worry about was an appearance by Chainsaw John's penis! 
Ah, but what a penis!
Oh, man, I hate to break this to you ... but that was actually Mike pretending to be Chainsaw John's penis.
I remember those days. Then Johnny boy had something to do with clubbing baby seals, and thought he was going to have a relationship with a former producer named Grace.
This shit is way better.
Regis said:
Oh, man, I hate to break this to you ... but that was actually Mike pretending to be Chainsaw John's penis.
Bigshipper said:
Ah, but what a penis!
AW2 said: Back in the olden days all we would have to worry about was an appearance by Chainsaw John's penis!
Ah, but what a penis!
Oh, man, I hate to break this to you ... but that was actually Mike pretending to be Chainsaw John's penis.
16 'loves' for a reply to my original comment which only has 5. I pitched it in, you slammed it out. Cheers to you, Regis, you magnificent bastard!
Going back into this thread, which is all news to me, is like watching the Hindenburg crash in a slow-motion fireball.
All this cake, there must be a princess somewhere.
Because of the UMD income being laundered through Mikes bank account, Jess will be claiming more benefits than she's really entitled to.
and WTF @ her being given time to sort out film requests and custom requests. And her UMD store is still going. She's been caught trying to take everyone for fools and is now using the "won't somebody please think of the children" defence which really is clutching at straws.
The DWP really dislike it when people lie to them to get more money than they're legally entitled to.
Her telling MM that she doesn't have all her films backed up and so needs more time shows just how little she thinks of MM and indeed the rest of the UMD community.
It could be argued that allowing her extra time to tidy up any loose ends of her criminal activities is part of a conspiracy. Delete everything to do with her account, swing that ban hammer, then relax and move on to the next drama.
and WTF @ her being given time to sort out film requests and custom requests. And her UMD store is still going. She's been caught trying to take everyone for fools and is now using the "won't somebody please think of the children" defence which really is clutching at straws.
The DWP really dislike it when people lie to them to get more money than they're legally entitled to.
Her telling MM that she doesn't have all her films backed up and so needs more time shows just how little she thinks of MM and indeed the rest of the UMD community.
It could be argued that allowing her extra time to tidy up any loose ends of her criminal activities is part of a conspiracy. Delete everything to do with her account, swing that ban hammer, then relax and move on to the next drama.
noideer said: Its sad. So sad, It's a sad sad situation... but....
Song should now be in heads.
Song should now be in heads.
And indeed, sorry seems to be the hardest word...
clayman1234 said:
Concealing or mis-declaring income is regarded as a serious offence by both the Department of Work and Pensions and H M Revenue & Customs, also by Courts dealing with maintenance after a Divorce. There is a case in the newspaper today where someone has ended up in jail for falsely claiming tax credits and benefits.
Just-visiting said: .
The DWP really dislike it when people lie to them to get more money than they're legally entitled to.
The DWP really dislike it when people lie to them to get more money than they're legally entitled to.
Concealing or mis-declaring income is regarded as a serious offence by both the Department of Work and Pensions and H M Revenue & Customs, also by Courts dealing with maintenance after a Divorce. There is a case in the newspaper today where someone has ended up in jail for falsely claiming tax credits and benefits.
Sorry guys, I know I'm not a mod.
But can we try to keep this to issues concearning the UMD?
Allegations such as that are not really our business.
We are not the police or HMRC.
There is no evidence to back up such allegations, just hearsay.
Please keep this topic on the subject of their actions concearning the UMD, it's management and members.
Thanks
I agree about keeping this to issues concerning UMD, the complication is that if dodgy stuff involving money laundering is happening (and from what Jessie has said, it has been happening so the evidence is in her admission) then that's got the potential to explode in a big way.
We're not the police, HMRC, DWP or any other agency. If Jessie (or anyone one else) has their earnings paid to a third party then that's a huge red flag. Money laundering is an absolute offence and it's one that admins don't want to be anywhere near. So the actions of Jessie and Mike do affect the UMD, its members and the staff.
We're not the police, HMRC, DWP or any other agency. If Jessie (or anyone one else) has their earnings paid to a third party then that's a huge red flag. Money laundering is an absolute offence and it's one that admins don't want to be anywhere near. So the actions of Jessie and Mike do affect the UMD, its members and the staff.
I feel like any potentially criminal issues are in fact pertinent to the UMD community, specifically customers who have purchased from her store. I am completely opposed to purchasing anything from someone who would be involved in criminal activities involving the laundering of money I had spent, especially if the goal was to receive even more in benefits at the expense of taxpayers. These allegations hold a lot of weight, and should be at least acknowledged by anyone considering buying her videos before her store is gone and/or boobs are removed from the internet.
I agree with Leon. I'm not sure how we've gone from concerns about Mike controlling Jessie's money to accusations of benefit fraud and money laundering, but I don't think such speculation is helping.
Going by her posts above, Jessie's going to come back on here next week to say something about all this. I admit I'm not, given the defensive tone of her posts so far, at all optimistic it'll get us much further forward, but I am pretty sure she'll claim persecution - with some justification - if she finds herself facing wild allegations about criminal activity. Then she'll clam up even more and we'll never get any sort of apology or explanation for what's gone on.
Please, let's keep it rational and factual.
Going by her posts above, Jessie's going to come back on here next week to say something about all this. I admit I'm not, given the defensive tone of her posts so far, at all optimistic it'll get us much further forward, but I am pretty sure she'll claim persecution - with some justification - if she finds herself facing wild allegations about criminal activity. Then she'll clam up even more and we'll never get any sort of apology or explanation for what's gone on.
Please, let's keep it rational and factual.
Saturation Hall, Langstonedale
Lord of the Pies
I agree with Leon and Moreslime, there's no way for any of us to know or judge anything outwith behaviour on the UMD, their relationship is none of our business and neither are their financial arrangements. There are quite legitimate reasons someone might have money handled by a third party, even just lower bank charges for transferring in. It doesn't indicate criminal intent or benefit fiddles.
The issues are that they cheated the UMD's systems, plus posts here, and I gather private messages sent to other female producers, appearing to be from a woman were actually from her partner masquerading as her. Those issues are quite bad enough and the reason MM has taken the actions he has.
As to why MM has allowed her store to stay till the end of the month, that allows anyone who wants her content (which is still valid - no one is claiming the woman in her scenes isn't her) to buy it before the closure takes place. As has always been the case with WAM content, if you see something you like, buy it now, because tomorrow it may be gone. I bought some of Jessie's content in the old days when the prices were lower, and while some of the camera work was terrible (not her fault, various camera guys I gather) some of it was good and some of the scenes were classics - I still remember when she pretty much invented the swimsuit filling genre, she also did a great (and well filmed) scene filling a zebra print spandex catsuit with baked beans. I lost interest when the topless stuff began to come out (nudity has no interest for me, hence why I mostly only shoot clothed scenes myself), but I appreciate it has a huge appeal to most guys.
It's a shame what's happened, and there probably wants to be a heavy clampdown here on making sure if a producer posts as a female name, it is the actual female speaking and not a guy masquerading. But speculation beyond UMD issues is beyond our collective remit.
The issues are that they cheated the UMD's systems, plus posts here, and I gather private messages sent to other female producers, appearing to be from a woman were actually from her partner masquerading as her. Those issues are quite bad enough and the reason MM has taken the actions he has.
As to why MM has allowed her store to stay till the end of the month, that allows anyone who wants her content (which is still valid - no one is claiming the woman in her scenes isn't her) to buy it before the closure takes place. As has always been the case with WAM content, if you see something you like, buy it now, because tomorrow it may be gone. I bought some of Jessie's content in the old days when the prices were lower, and while some of the camera work was terrible (not her fault, various camera guys I gather) some of it was good and some of the scenes were classics - I still remember when she pretty much invented the swimsuit filling genre, she also did a great (and well filmed) scene filling a zebra print spandex catsuit with baked beans. I lost interest when the topless stuff began to come out (nudity has no interest for me, hence why I mostly only shoot clothed scenes myself), but I appreciate it has a huge appeal to most guys.
It's a shame what's happened, and there probably wants to be a heavy clampdown here on making sure if a producer posts as a female name, it is the actual female speaking and not a guy masquerading. But speculation beyond UMD issues is beyond our collective remit.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
I'm getting very tempted to lock this thread.
Oh Janet! You look so funny!!!
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