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"Here's to the next quarter century"
Love you, too
So a lot of us recently saw our profiles flip to say we've been here 25 years. Isn't that mind-blowing? And I know that number is actually much higher. Thank you everybody for still being here with me after all this time, whether you have a UMD account or if you're reading this from lurker mode. I love you all. 
It's now been more than half my life dedicated this project, the only real career I've ever had, and it's been my pleasure. I couldn't be happier to start the next 25 with you if you'll have me. I'm proud to have watched us evolve organically into one of the most robust communities that has ever existed online or elsewhere. We are an ever-changing, living, breathing organism that has had to defend against outside threats, and endemic ones too. We always get stronger and by this point, I believe we've set a standard for online culture period. New members immediately get "the vibe" and I routinely get inbox messages from them saying how positive and nice everybody is. This is a place you actually want to be and hang out at. You totally get the "spread wam... and positivity" thing and people really do come for the wam and then stay for the friends. This has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with you. Thank you!
I have a lot more to say, but instead of another long post, I plan on writing or blogging more over the coming months. There are certain ways I've seen the community develop that have taught me a lot about humanity in general. I've learned a lot of very deep life lessons from yall and I've never really spoken too much about them. So thanks in advance for putting up with my ramblings!
Thanks again to everybody who came to see us in Vegas! I wrote a corny shout-out thread here but wow it really was everything it was cracked up to be... never a dull moment. If you ever want to feel alive, like you're a part of something you normally only hear about, come to one of these things. Everybody who comes is so passionate about wam, and it's so validating to feel that energy in person and to observe the different perspectives about wam in real life. It's also a great excuse to go live out your own messy dreams! There is a lot of enthusiasm to create maybe a planning board to organize future events, so I've started a new Official Events group. I'm excited to see what emerges from that.
So... we're just beginning our next 25 years. I plan to be here to celebrate the 50th. But the world is burning and AI is coming.
Who will we be, even next year? My plans for the site are to bring it more into the modern era of course, with a priority on mobile access, live interaction, and fun. We will stay a private, cozy site against all the forces out there that want to tear us apart. But just as with day 1, I'll be guided by what you, my peers, tell me. 
So on a positive tip, where do you want UMD and its community to go from here?
Much love everybody, and peace for us in the next quarter century.
Messmaster
Check the Vegas love thread here: https://umd.net/groups/some-vegas-love
It's now been more than half my life dedicated this project, the only real career I've ever had, and it's been my pleasure. I couldn't be happier to start the next 25 with you if you'll have me. I'm proud to have watched us evolve organically into one of the most robust communities that has ever existed online or elsewhere. We are an ever-changing, living, breathing organism that has had to defend against outside threats, and endemic ones too. We always get stronger and by this point, I believe we've set a standard for online culture period. New members immediately get "the vibe" and I routinely get inbox messages from them saying how positive and nice everybody is. This is a place you actually want to be and hang out at. You totally get the "spread wam... and positivity" thing and people really do come for the wam and then stay for the friends. This has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with you. Thank you!
I have a lot more to say, but instead of another long post, I plan on writing or blogging more over the coming months. There are certain ways I've seen the community develop that have taught me a lot about humanity in general. I've learned a lot of very deep life lessons from yall and I've never really spoken too much about them. So thanks in advance for putting up with my ramblings!
Thanks again to everybody who came to see us in Vegas! I wrote a corny shout-out thread here but wow it really was everything it was cracked up to be... never a dull moment. If you ever want to feel alive, like you're a part of something you normally only hear about, come to one of these things. Everybody who comes is so passionate about wam, and it's so validating to feel that energy in person and to observe the different perspectives about wam in real life. It's also a great excuse to go live out your own messy dreams! There is a lot of enthusiasm to create maybe a planning board to organize future events, so I've started a new Official Events group. I'm excited to see what emerges from that.
So... we're just beginning our next 25 years. I plan to be here to celebrate the 50th. But the world is burning and AI is coming.
Who will we be, even next year? My plans for the site are to bring it more into the modern era of course, with a priority on mobile access, live interaction, and fun. We will stay a private, cozy site against all the forces out there that want to tear us apart. But just as with day 1, I'll be guided by what you, my peers, tell me. So on a positive tip, where do you want UMD and its community to go from here?Much love everybody, and peace for us in the next quarter century.
Messmaster
Check the Vegas love thread here: https://umd.net/groups/some-vegas-love
Stay messy, my friends
Paint with play and surrender
Couldn't love this post more x 
Messmaster said: So... we're just beginning our next 25 years. I plan to be here to celebrate the 50th. But the world is burning and AI is coming. Who will we be, even next year?
Who will we be, even next year? Congrats on the 25 years.
I have mixed feelings about A.I. because it is a double-edged sword. If A.I. evolves to the point of being as great as the holodeck on Star Trek TNG, then this will be great for A.I. content creators and for wam fans and consumers but will put real human beings like the models and old school content creators out of work, because there will be no need for photographers, cameramen, models and traditional producers. All the entertainment will be coming from a keyboard via software developers and the most creative A.I. producers.
In a few years time, we may have to create an entirely new genre called "RealWAM" and create a new sub forum where old school real models and producers can promote "real media" from real human beings in real locations". A.I. can never replace "Spontaneous WAM" where the model directs herself and does things in her own ad lib way. A.I. is like a puppet on a string where all the action is controlled from the keyboard by the puppeteer. Mind you, I am a huge fan of Thunderbirds from the 1960's and the puppet version was done much better than then live action version with real humans.
The old "Cliff's Notes" system has been replaced by A.I. ChapGpt that can now write term papers for college students, and we are already in the era of driverless cars, so I am sure A,I. can easily write a wam scenario script and produce it all inside a computer and then in the future project a holographic version I can interact with in my own house. But I am pretty sure my wife will not be happy with that idea.
Do unto others, then run
Thanks Messmaster for holding it all together over the years with all of our different personalities, sexualities, tempermants, WAM preferences, etc.
I've been here for about 25 years but deleted my account to return and I am glad that I did.
You are appreciated.
I've been here for about 25 years but deleted my account to return and I am glad that I did.
You are appreciated.
I think that the way that things have progressed naturally is the best way to progress. Letting things come and go as they will and return again instead of forcing things is something I have liked. The thought of some of the things coming out with AI really has me worried about how it will change our society. Some of the deep fake negotiations being discussed by the writers guild and actors guild are some scary times. Where we have the technology to fake people being in situations and saying things that were never done is not a good path. I think that as a community we are growing and evolving now at a great pace and I can't wait to see what is around the corner 5 months from now or 5 years from now.
Congratulations on 25 years, time flies.
What a beautiful post MM. I'm one of the 25 yearers. And it been an absolute pleasure to be here.
You planted the acorn all them years ago, and what a mighty oak it's grown into. I look forward to the tree getting bigger and stronger and who knows where it'll branch out to.
I doff my cap, raise my glass and salute you Derek. One day I hope you get to meet you, shake your hand, pat you on the back, and show my gratitude. Plus just have good old chinwag
Here's to the next 25 years and beyond
You planted the acorn all them years ago, and what a mighty oak it's grown into. I look forward to the tree getting bigger and stronger and who knows where it'll branch out to.
I doff my cap, raise my glass and salute you Derek. One day I hope you get to meet you, shake your hand, pat you on the back, and show my gratitude. Plus just have good old chinwag
Here's to the next 25 years and beyond
I've got a pie, and I know how the throw it.
I'm blown over reading your post, Messmaster.
This place is really special. I've written over 50 stories. Mostly total rubbish,
but when someone responds and likes what they read, it's good.
You meet people here who share our unique and perhaps peculiar tastes.
Things that made us tingle long before we reached sexual awareness.
You have taught me to be more respectful, Messmaster.
I hope that I have listened.
Thank you for that.
I'm going to a "splunge" on July 8th, and that will be the first time I've met people from here.
Thank you for all your work.
Peter
This place is really special. I've written over 50 stories. Mostly total rubbish,
but when someone responds and likes what they read, it's good.
You meet people here who share our unique and perhaps peculiar tastes.
Things that made us tingle long before we reached sexual awareness.
You have taught me to be more respectful, Messmaster.
I hope that I have listened.
Thank you for that.
I'm going to a "splunge" on July 8th, and that will be the first time I've met people from here.
Thank you for all your work.
Peter
Splash me
Congrats on the 25 years.
I have mixed feelings about A.I. because it is a double-edged sword. If A.I. evolves to the point of being as great as the holodeck on Star Trek TNG, then this will be great for A.I. content creators and for wam fans and consumers but will put real human beings like the models and old school content creators out of work, because there will be no need for photographers, cameramen, models and traditional producers. All the entertainment will be coming from a keyboard via software developers and the most creative A.I. producers.
In a few years time, we may have to create an entirely new genre called "RealWAM" and create a new sub forum where old school real models and producers can promote "real media" from real human beings in real locations". A.I. can never replace "Spontaneous WAM" where the model directs herself and does things in her own ad lib way. A.I. is like a puppet on a string where all the action is controlled from the keyboard by the puppeteer. Mind you, I am a huge fan of Thunderbirds from the 1960's and the puppet version was done much better than then live action version with real humans.
The old "Cliff's Notes" system has been replaced by A.I. ChapGpt that can now write term papers for college students, and we are already in the era of driverless cars, so I am sure A,I. can easily write a wam scenario script and produce it all inside a computer and then in the future project a holographic version I can interact with in my own house. But I am pretty sure my wife will not be happy with that idea..
I have mixed feelings about A.I. because it is a double-edged sword. If A.I. evolves to the point of being as great as the holodeck on Star Trek TNG, then this will be great for A.I. content creators and for wam fans and consumers but will put real human beings like the models and old school content creators out of work, because there will be no need for photographers, cameramen, models and traditional producers. All the entertainment will be coming from a keyboard via software developers and the most creative A.I. producers.
In a few years time, we may have to create an entirely new genre called "RealWAM" and create a new sub forum where old school real models and producers can promote "real media" from real human beings in real locations". A.I. can never replace "Spontaneous WAM" where the model directs herself and does things in her own ad lib way. A.I. is like a puppet on a string where all the action is controlled from the keyboard by the puppeteer. Mind you, I am a huge fan of Thunderbirds from the 1960's and the puppet version was done much better than then live action version with real humans.
The old "Cliff's Notes" system has been replaced by A.I. ChapGpt that can now write term papers for college students, and we are already in the era of driverless cars, so I am sure A,I. can easily write a wam scenario script and produce it all inside a computer and then in the future project a holographic version I can interact with in my own house. But I am pretty sure my wife will not be happy with that idea..
Amen. AI may be able to change the way we view things, but in my opinion it will never be able to take the place of the real thing. Getting 'virtually wet' is just not the same. Here's to a future that still holds a place for one on one, real wet encounters of the first, second, third or any other kind!
wamtec said:
Congrats on the 25 years.
I have mixed feelings about A.I. because it is a double-edged sword. If A.I. evolves to the point of being as great as the holodeck on Star Trek TNG, then this will be great for A.I. content creators and for wam fans and consumers but will put real human beings like the models and old school content creators out of work, because there will be no need for photographers, cameramen, models and traditional producers. All the entertainment will be coming from a keyboard via software developers and the most creative A.I. producers.
Messmaster said: So... we're just beginning our next 25 years. I plan to be here to celebrate the 50th. But the world is burning and AI is coming. Who will we be, even next year?
Who will we be, even next year? Congrats on the 25 years.
I have mixed feelings about A.I. because it is a double-edged sword. If A.I. evolves to the point of being as great as the holodeck on Star Trek TNG, then this will be great for A.I. content creators and for wam fans and consumers but will put real human beings like the models and old school content creators out of work, because there will be no need for photographers, cameramen, models and traditional producers. All the entertainment will be coming from a keyboard via software developers and the most creative A.I. producers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSewd6Iaj6I
This is literally what the writers in the current strike are afraid of. And they should be, as they can't seem to make anything new the past 20 years and just reboot and regurgitate the same shit with recycled IPs over and over again.
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
With UMDs content a big part of why I still WAM to this day, certainly delighted to see so many involved over the years & fair play to MM for maintaining this room.
As someone who lurked for so many years before eventually creating a profile on here a few years ago, certainly great to be made welcome regardless by so many members as we all share a common interest. Onwards to the next 25 years.
As someone who lurked for so many years before eventually creating a profile on here a few years ago, certainly great to be made welcome regardless by so many members as we all share a common interest. Onwards to the next 25 years.
Hi Derek, thank you for the wonderful words and congrats to the 25th anni!
I stumbled into the first messy content in 1997 on the very young internet, when I was in Chicago. Realized I was not alone wth my weird ideas of fun ...
Considering the 25 yrs, UMD was still in small shoes when I stumbled in around 99/00, lurking.
I has been an inspiration since.
Learning from the mastresses and masters, improving my mixtures, combining materials, filming plots straight out of my 5 am last dreams.
thank you for creating and managing this wonderful platform.
may the mess be with us
On the next 25! splat!
adding some very early pictures I took ;D
Best, Chris of pure paint
I stumbled into the first messy content in 1997 on the very young internet, when I was in Chicago. Realized I was not alone wth my weird ideas of fun ...
Considering the 25 yrs, UMD was still in small shoes when I stumbled in around 99/00, lurking.
I has been an inspiration since.
Learning from the mastresses and masters, improving my mixtures, combining materials, filming plots straight out of my 5 am last dreams.
thank you for creating and managing this wonderful platform.
may the mess be with us
On the next 25! splat!
adding some very early pictures I took ;D
Best, Chris of pure paint
instagram: @pure_paint
Absolutely lovely post, and yeah, 25 years, where did it all go? When you think how radiclly absolutely everything has changed in that quarter century, it's mind blowing, and even more so that we are all still here. Huge thanks to MM for creating and maintaiing what really is a truly wonderful community.
25 years ago, 1998. Almost seems like the Victorian age in some ways! No PayPal (not created till December 98), eBay existed but utterly primitive by modern standards, no social media, no Wikipedia (2001 that started), and WAM materials were still supplied on VHS cassettes that you had to send international cheques for and took months to arrive.
Many of us were only just discovering that we weren't the only people on the planet for whom Noel's House Party or the water-based sections of The Crystal Maze were more than just light entertainnment. High resolution meant sVHS or Hi-8 on a CRT screen, and if your computer monitor did 1024 x 768 you were some kind of tech-god and had probably paid the price of a good used car for your computer gear.
The vibe has definitely changed over the years too, as a community I feel we're now far more diverse, and respectful of diversity, than was once the case. This is a good thing, long may it continue.
Definitely hoping Lady Jasmine and I can make a future UMD meetup, Vegas 2018 was just fabulous. Vague plans for UMD30.
Salute to MM, MMs, and everyone who's contributed over the last 25 years.
25 years ago, 1998. Almost seems like the Victorian age in some ways! No PayPal (not created till December 98), eBay existed but utterly primitive by modern standards, no social media, no Wikipedia (2001 that started), and WAM materials were still supplied on VHS cassettes that you had to send international cheques for and took months to arrive.
Many of us were only just discovering that we weren't the only people on the planet for whom Noel's House Party or the water-based sections of The Crystal Maze were more than just light entertainnment. High resolution meant sVHS or Hi-8 on a CRT screen, and if your computer monitor did 1024 x 768 you were some kind of tech-god and had probably paid the price of a good used car for your computer gear.
The vibe has definitely changed over the years too, as a community I feel we're now far more diverse, and respectful of diversity, than was once the case. This is a good thing, long may it continue.
Definitely hoping Lady Jasmine and I can make a future UMD meetup, Vegas 2018 was just fabulous. Vague plans for UMD30.
Salute to MM, MMs, and everyone who's contributed over the last 25 years.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
Thanks to MM for holding this messy place together until now, and to all (here now and those gone) who've contributed to the mess.
Bring on the next twenty-five years of REAL wam; I can't wallow in virtuaL MUD.
Bristol Splunch returning soon.
Bring on the next twenty-five years of REAL wam; I can't wallow in virtuaL MUD.
Bristol Splunch returning soon.
Normality is subjective.
Boulder CO, 1996: I go into an adult video store. "You got anything with messy food? (Chasing down a blurb from Hustler about some fringe production company making mud and creamy food videos...[Messy Fun])
"Nah, but I got a tape with girls fucking some fish"..
Fast forward two years, and Shokolada's Mess leads me to the UMD! Holy Shit! I'm not the only freak who likes watching girls get pies thrown at them??
Thx to Derek, and all the late, great OG mess-makers: Rob, Lenny, Neil, Bill; and all those who are still going: MG, Lamond (sorry, is anyone else left from those days?)
"Nah, but I got a tape with girls fucking some fish"..
Fast forward two years, and Shokolada's Mess leads me to the UMD! Holy Shit! I'm not the only freak who likes watching girls get pies thrown at them??
Thx to Derek, and all the late, great OG mess-makers: Rob, Lenny, Neil, Bill; and all those who are still going: MG, Lamond (sorry, is anyone else left from those days?)
Wonderful post. I'm so proud to be part of such an awesome and inviting community. It's been so wonderful to have this place as one of the major outlets of my creative energy. Thank you so much for the work you do and giving all of us the place to show our talents to the world. Being a super extrovert, I'm totally into the idea of annual meetups. I'd also like to throw my hat in the ring for helping to plan some sort of music-driven event that we can channel some messy energy into.
I have been a umd gal through and through ober all these years and you all have not only watched, but HELPED me evolve into my kink, my passion that I never knew I had.
You are right, Derek. It takes a whole village.but it also takes a fearless leader to wrangle up people once in a while and I appreciate you wrangling ME. Haha!
I would love to see this place become more mobile friendly like, being able to upload short vids like Instagram or something BUT I think that also brings a lot of market saturation and people just jumping in here and scheming ppl.
And the community right now is thriving. I think what you are doing now? Is awesome.
Hip hip hooray ! Love you and messmistress too
don't know if she wants to be named. Hahaha
You are right, Derek. It takes a whole village.but it also takes a fearless leader to wrangle up people once in a while and I appreciate you wrangling ME. Haha!
I would love to see this place become more mobile friendly like, being able to upload short vids like Instagram or something BUT I think that also brings a lot of market saturation and people just jumping in here and scheming ppl.
And the community right now is thriving. I think what you are doing now? Is awesome.
Hip hip hooray ! Love you and messmistress too
don't know if she wants to be named. HahahaGet Messy, Get Wet, C'mon Get Happy!
Congratulations for 25 years of service to the WAM community!
I think one of your greatest contributions has been the way you've united all our various WAM fetishes under one umbrella. You are truly the President of the United States of WAM.
Thank you!
I think one of your greatest contributions has been the way you've united all our various WAM fetishes under one umbrella. You are truly the President of the United States of WAM.
Thank you!
I don't post very often on here, mostly I come to read and enjoy, and I haven't been here the whole 25 years... probably 21! But I wanted to pipe up say what a special community this is, how awesome it is that (for a pack of kinky weirdos, haha) we really enjoy an online space run on respect, enthusiasm, and affinity. It's a really great home to have as we all explore this lovely messy passion we have!
And a special shout-out and thanks to the people who run the sight. Messmaster and the rest of the admin team have always been really thoughtful and fair in all of my dealings with them, and I know they bust ass trying to make this place the safe, intentional community it is. Thanks to all of you.
To 25 more sounds good to me!
And a special shout-out and thanks to the people who run the sight. Messmaster and the rest of the admin team have always been really thoughtful and fair in all of my dealings with them, and I know they bust ass trying to make this place the safe, intentional community it is. Thanks to all of you.
To 25 more sounds good to me!
Life is a messy business (fortunately)
It's been a pleasure watching UMD grow and prosper. Thank you to MM and his team and all the producers who have made it all possible.
Also, props to some of the greatest flamewars of this generation!
Also, props to some of the greatest flamewars of this generation!
Oh Janet! You look so funny!!!
