Hey everyone

Big love and messy cuddles from me!!! I've got a question about bondage and in particular being gagged during Sploshing scenes. Who really enjoys bondage and restraint in WAM stories? I think the tied up and helpless scenario is just perfect for WAM and I also think a model being gagged really adds to that humiliation and submissive vibe when I'm getting completely trashed!!! Do you think a gag/blindfold/ropes/handcuffs can distract and disrupt how mess naturally moves and covers the model??
I'm curious for more opinions as I love being restrained and gagged as it's a big part of my fetish and as a switch I particularly enjoying being both a sub and a domme in a BDSM scene, but do you think it fits nicely with WAM?? I'm worried I'm biased as I love being hogtied and gagged in my own life, so I especially love it when I'm being trashed by lots and lots of mess!!
I've added some pics of me tied/chained/gagged in various substances for reference. I love a ball gag and a bit gag but my personal favourite for Sploshing is an O ring gag as it forces my mouth open and whatever disgusting or delicious mess is poured over my head floods my mouth and I can't escape it, especially if I'm cuffed aswell!!

I'd love to know your thoughts my darlings

Brooke Xx

im no fan.. but I do like to see it lol
its not my personal thing..
I do a bit of light Bdsm but thats all.. well last time I had a chance...
sorry... ive been a much use as a wet lettuce lol

Wam/bdsm crossover is probably one of the main fetish combinations on here because of how well they lend themselves to each other. For me, if the gag fits with the tone/theme/story of the scene then that can be a huge turn on! I wouldn't say I need a gag in every scene I buy though if that makes sense? Hope that helps x

I might have a different opinion than most on this but I enjoy seeing bondage but without a ball gag as I prefer to hesr the victim complain about her outfit/hair/makeup being ruined. Just my $0.02.

I don't have a particularly strong BDSM/bondage kink...but your videos/stills and some from others definitely help me to see the appeal! So yes, it absolutely works insofar as you are willing to safely push it.

Switch checking in, I've enjoyed the scene I did where I was bound to a chair. Enjoyed it enough that I have another one written out to do at some point. You've gotta helpless and at the mercy of whatever the other person wants to throw at you at some point, being in charge all the time gets tedious.

I'm not so much a fan of ball gags or rings, but that's just me personally.

Big fan of seeing a girl get pied and unable to do anything about it. However, if she's wearing a mask or anything that would come between her face and the pie, that pretty much kills the scene for me. Other than that, I'm not too picky- if a pretty girl is taking it in the face, I'm a happy man

I do enjoy seeing a restrained model in videos personally, if it's a great gunging from above It can add to the humiliation with great facial coverage and not being able to wipe it clear - the model is resigned to accept her face and can't escape

Love a bit of bondage with Wam, or a lot .
If gags fit in with the rest of the screen then go for it, though I'm biased towards gags too.
Though I do wonder about the risk of ball gags being used with very thick mess restricting airways etc.
It think it's best to make content that you want to do and enjoy most, rather then trying to make stuff to fit what a few people suggest, unless it's custom content of course. I think the things you've been making are amazing though.
I think it would be great to see you enjoying wam doming someone else too.

100% YES

I'm a big fan of the bondage and your execution has been spot on!

We've done bondage with great results in a few of our scenes as well.

Bondage doesn't do anything for me. I usually look towards the end of the post to get a few after the restraints have been removed.

Does it belong here? Don't see why it wouldn't.

hell year bondage and gagged in wam work ... i seen messydarla do it all time and love it.. guess what wam you like.. but super hot !

Bondage does little for me and I hate humiliation but if it's a hot naked lady getting messy I'm probably going to find something interesting in a scene.

I agree 100%

Yup. Definitely adds to the humiliation fantasy aspect. Like if she's not tied up then wouldn't she just move out of the way lol.

Also it's important for ne theres full nudity and pussy visibility. Like if she's tied up but filmes from the side or I can't fully see her pussy I won't really be interested.

Definitely. I love bondage and I love WAM. Always great to see them together.

yes, it works with WAM really well. But I am also a latex fetishist. so....

Brooke, delighted to hear that you love combining bondage & WAM whilst I'm not averse to gags, I must admit when meds is being applied I do love it if the sub mouth is free to complain about how gross & disgusting the slime is against her naked flesh Also if her mouth is free she can be forced to give a blow-job too!

With regards to how the sub should be restrained, personally I love feet in the stocks & hands cuffed behind her back, either naked before being locked up, or having her clothes cut off so she's totally exposed without a shred of modesty a bit like Penny & Lorna are in these amazing videos by Kustard King of HotWamHD

Both a normal ball gag and an opened mouth ball gag works for me in almost every scenario. Also using the model's knickers as a gag or just simply stuffing the knickers in her mouth also appeals. There is not enough BDSM and WAM around for my liking in general.

Great pictures

For me it totally does work. We made some shoots like this, too, and if the model likes it, fun is guraranteed

Gags are not really my thing but something I've looked into a little because I do like the idea of someone tied up and unable to resist as her outfit is wrecked with mess.

Something I remember reading on a legal site, if a gag is used, one of the model's hands (or feet) must be free so she can signal withdrawal of consent if she wishes. Basically, all limbs bound, mouth free, is OK, or gagged with a hand (or foot) free is OK. But not all-bound and gagged. Else risks prosecution of the UK-based producer under obscenity laws.

I've followed the recent legal spats with the government's doomed attempts to regulate the Internet fairly closely the last few years, we're not out of the woods yet, there's still another regulation attempt coming, though not as unworkable as the last couple.

Brooke if you ever visit we will do Latex, ring gag, full body rope, Butt plug, vibrator tied to your thigh so its on your clit and put you in the mud pit. It will be easy to put my foot on your head so you get a face full, just yell if you want me to take my foot off your face

Phil

I love this. Not a fan of gags but I'm fine with it, especially if it gets removed sometime during the scene. Blindfolds are cool as it's fun when they don't know what's covering them.

You are correct, I've seen it put as 'able to remove themselves' during sexual or erotic scenes' on rules on another video storefront site. Just assumed it was a UK or EU law thing since it was unfamiliar as an American.

I do not like to see or engage in bondage (and especially gagging) My thoughts are that in any sexual activity should involved the enjoyment of both parties, not one dominating the other.

I once voiced this opinion to a couple who regularly use both in their wam activities. The wife, (sadly no longer part of this forum) took me to task because she enjoyed getting tied up and having her husband free to do whatever he wished to her. So this was for her, at least initially, something that pre-empted a session to which she looked forward. They both often ended up naked, so the 'bondage' rarely lasted long.

I reckon it definitely adds to the scene, like many things do, not that i get chance to that often but when I do have some wam fun, being a crossdresser as well I enjoy being dressed as a woman when getting messy.
That's my opinion anyway so hope that helps.
Kezza x

It's a UK thing.

Some years back an attempt was made to update the UK's woefully out of date obscenity law, which had effectively been nullified by a string of court cases where the juries came out in favour of the defendants, the most famous case being over the book "Lady Chatterly's Lover".

This update attempt at one point involved the drawing up of a list of what was and wasn't legal to do and film - a list that had clearly been thought up by a group of octogenarian white guys who's social mores and sexual ideas were stuck somewhere in the dying days of the British Empire, and in particular appeared to be based on the idea that anything that gave women power or dominance or their own pleasure was weird and perverted and "BAN THIS SICK FILTH!" to quote a famous news headline.

Needless to say that provoked a furious backlash from the femdom community, feminist porn producers, spanking practitioners, and kinksters in general, and eventually someone, somewhere saw sense and the "list of banned actions" was deep-sixed into the Thames. The new rules/guidance are simply that everything must be safe, sane, and fully consensual, that any performer must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and that anything liable to cause permanent or long-lasting harm is banned. I think one quote was "It is not the job of the Crown Prosecution Service to determine what consenting adults do with each other."

Sadly that's not the end of the story though as it seems the government wants to make yet another attempts to resurrect the rotting zombie of age verification on adult content, except this time they're going after social media, which a) wasn't covered by the last attempt, b) is where the vast majority of "kids stumbling over porn by accident" actually happens, and c) will be a very much harder nut to crack. So things may take a long time, and/or be quietly dropped when they prove to be impossible to enact. But the price of freedom is indeed eternal vigilance.

But the upshot is that if Brooke wishes to go ahead with creating such scenes, the law on "being able to withdraw consent" will need to be complied with.

Aside from the legal issues, there's also a safety concern. Candy Custard mentioned that she almost choked to death on a foam pie while her hands were tied:
https://umd.net/forums/wam-injuries#postid_918948

As I recall, someone suggested that holding an item you can drop would be a good safety precaution. I don't know whether that would also satisfy the legal concerns, i.e. whether that would count as a method for withdrawing consent.

It's not all rosy here either. BDSM wasn't taken into account when some of the domestic violence laws were written, so from a legal standpoint in some states one can't give consent to be flogged and whatnot because it's considered assault. I'm sure sporting events are excluded somehow or else there wouldn't be any boxing, MMA, martial arts matches, ...

Another thing is that charges can be pressed the top end of a BDSM scene without the bottom's cooperation. That's also rooted in domestic violence laws because in the past they weren't always able to successfully go after legitimate abusers because the other party refused to help bring them to justice. No sort of exclusions exist because of the inability to grant consent from a legal standpoint and here we are.

An attorney who's also a fem dom gave an instructional session recently at a club I'm a member of on the law and how to interact with the police in the event they're called over. Unusual topic but interesting.

Anyway, "the more you know!" for anyone interested in filming something similar in South Carolina or Georgia.