The Messygirl team is very excited about the UMD event next month. We can't wait to meet everyone. Could this be the start of an annual event? Who would like to see this become a WAM-Con?

We just had a pretty elaborate wam con and MM kicked the perpetrators out! But, sure, I could be scammed again, I'm gullible.

That would be fun! Not sure how it would work logistically but on paper sounds good!

ROTFLMAO!!!

I think the best strat would to let it grow into an actual con naturally. I think that the community could support a meet and greet in vegas once a year for now and let evolve from there. That's my two cents.
I know the wife and i will be there next year for sure!

Regis, are you this funny in person? Can't wait to find out.

Things like this used to exist in the UK back in the early to mid 90s and don't anymore. Aquadisiac/Rob Blaine/ Mark and some others (Don't quote me, I was a teen then, sort of before my time) I find it hard to imagine the logistics of an annual "wam con" in the US when they don't even do them in the UK anymore which has generally more producers and clustered much closer together.

In a perfect world it would be wonderful, but the work, organization, and money for something like that would be pretty astronomical. This Vegas trip works because it was just MM's vacation and he was like, "Hey, ya'll can show up if you want" and sort of went from there. Finding a time where you can get everyone (or enough people for it to be profitable) there would be harrowing in of itself. Combine that with the fact that many of the models and producers don't do WAM exclusively in their lives and have other jobs/obligations.

I'm not trying to shit on anyone's parade, I'm just spelling out the hard truths. That said, if someone's got the capital to organize this and is willing to take the risk; I would attend and even volunteer for the event in any way I were able.

Not apposed to this idea . I bet after this Vegas trip that it will probably be a yearly thing.

There are a few splunches every year and there are play events too - slosh run a few smallish meets with a lot of mess and participation (all male) Considering that a convention would be both of those aspects, add on a few performances and private sessions and we're getting somewhere. The biggest issue for WAM is the need to clean up - both the people and the place. I doubt there are many venues with a conveniently set up wet room big enough for a few hundred!

If only there were plans for a sort of splunch followed by a live performance and participation in a pretty much purpose designed place! Maybe keep your diary quiet in the late summer as the Moomins plans sound like a good starting point for a WAM con!

As long as it is in Holland

This is a fantastic time for our community. We have:

MG joining forces with Mrs. Bee.

Rev and the Moonins collaborating.

New-ish producers putting out some quality stuff, like MadLoveJoker, CaseWAM, Richard Trouso, and Pie Zone and others I am forgetting at the moment.

Reliable veterans like Rich, Jayce, Ariel, Ken, et.al. still putting out their trademark stuff.

And now we have a meet up in Vegas that sounds pretty epic.

My point is that NOW is the time to start a WAM Con. If there ever was a time, this is it!

Ohhhhhh, conVENTION, riiiiiiiight.

Yeah, I'd show up for that ... if I could mud wrestle a Messygirl.

You know, you could even try it like this:

One year in North America, One year in Europe - cycle, rinse, repeat.

Japan and thereabouts seems to have a bit of a happening underground scene, too, but that might be a little more logistically challenging to arrange until Google Translate becomes a bit more refined.

I dunno isn't it kinda awkward just being there and being like "Hey, we like the same kind of porn" to a stranger?

I would support an annual WAM-con in the US, and messy events/play in general.

I know in Japan there is that somewhat regular "Messy Live" event, involving live WAM performances and it looks like about 20 pax (from the photos) for each event. I'm sure the UK has experience in this as well, so maybe we borrow some ideas from them?

Just throwing out ideas, we could maybe meet for a mud-run, and we need to do some due diligence for this to be sure there's going to be real mud and not just muddy water. Hopefully I don't need to run, I just wanna play in the mud. LOL.

Also, it's not going to be a convention in the traditional sense, because I'd figure we won't have more than 2 dozen people showing up. How many people are actually going to the Vegas meetup? So logistically, if we could get some big house, it could work.

The question moving forward is how do we make this worth it for the organizer? Would a gofundme type of thing work?

Reege: you get off a lot of good lines, but that's one of the best.

Savage!

Yet there are porn cons (Exxxotica in Edison New Jersey comes to mind) that run annually with great turn outs, and I don't think I've ever read a "day after" news story on one where something bad happened. It all depends on how confident you are in yourself
Meeting someone =/= fucking them.

My fear is that it would be a sausage party. Would want some guarantee of female representation.

Well if you agreed not to go....

I've heard a lot of convention stories over the years from fans, models and producers and the results really depend on if you like being in social situations and the people running the con are at least somewhat competent.

I love the idea of a wam con but have a hard time imagining a place that would be willing to host. Most are done at convention centers or hotels with large conference rooms and those places would probably charge a really high security deposit for an event that might trash their space if they were to even allow it. Cost aside I'm not sure how to get around the location problem unless someone were willing to host at a private space set up for sploshing sessions.

How about your place?

Hey everybody! Con's at Leila's!

We should definitely have a wam com. Let's see how this one fares and turn it into an annual event. A lot of us would really be up for that. And hold at least one in Ireland!

"This is a great idea and I will definitely support it, oh, and, let's have it near where I live."

By the way these should always be in NYC.

I feel like a massive tool because I totally misread the first time

Why?

There are already comic cons all over the place?

There's even a porn con.

https://adultentertainmentexpo.com/

Having gone to fan cons myself, I "pishaw" to most of the arguments raised.

It wouldn't even - necessarily - have to be profitable the first year, but after a couple of years, you would want to see a profit.

That said, your biggest expenses would be the place. The hotels could wouldn't be a cost to the convention, as they are not included.

The convention itself is usually staffed by volunteers. That could be a sticking point. Also, not everyone is in to everything, so you would want to have multiple "tracks" or speakers tackling a variety of subjects. Some could focus on modeling/acquiring models, while others focus on logistics/supplies/clean up, while others focus on recipes, scripts, and video production. (these are ideas. Not saying they are good one, just ideas.)

This is where I, personally, see the biggest problem. Are there enough "experts" in these fields to warrant a track dedicated to that?

Would it be better to create a new con, or add to an existing con?

http://fetishcon.com/

While I love the idea of a Splatter Island Convention, I've wonder if I would be better served trying to get into MAL?

http://www.leatherweekend.com/

To any who attend MAL, could I fit in there?

Why couldn't this awesome WAM renaissance have happened 20 years ago before I married a non-wammer and had 2 kids? Why? Why?!

Hell yes. I'll help in any way possible.

I don't see why not. People are already asking about next year, especially some who can't make it this time. But I like the idea of it growing organically. I like that this is simple and we're just coming together on our own terms to meet and have a good time. Maybe it could be a real convention some day but why rush it? I'm corny but I thought of calling it our Wamily Reunion.

By the way this is about people first, not wam. Stop worrying about it being a sausage fest, or a bunch of awkward porn fetishists or whatever. It's about shaking hands and having beers with people you've only ever known and grown fond of online. A lot of people, as I say, "came for the wam and stayed for the friends." That's really what this is about.

Messmaster

I'd love to see this become an annual thing - I really wish I could make the Vegas event but this year I'm unfortunately not able to make the trip. I look forward to hearing about how it goes for all who attend and hopefully seeing this happen again next year!