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"Building a Messy Prize Wheel! What Substances Should Go On It?"
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So I've been thinking about building a messy prize for a while now, like in this Wikihow article (https://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Prize-Wheel), and wanted to get some takes on the substances I should include on it!
I would do maybe 8 substances. Obviously pies and slime would have to be on it (real pies and cake batter slime that is). Then maybe a synthetic gunge (like the Messy Supplies gunge I just started using) and like a 'slosh' or shaving cream and water mixture, either delivered via plate or pour. So that's 4. What else? Beans? Water? Chocolate? Gimme some ideas!
I would also include spots that say Strip and Cash
I would do maybe 8 substances. Obviously pies and slime would have to be on it (real pies and cake batter slime that is). Then maybe a synthetic gunge (like the Messy Supplies gunge I just started using) and like a 'slosh' or shaving cream and water mixture, either delivered via plate or pour. So that's 4. What else? Beans? Water? Chocolate? Gimme some ideas!
I would also include spots that say Strip and Cash
Pie(s). Slime. Gunge. Chocolate syrup/pudding. Beans. Your "slosh." Porridge/oatmeal.
I think this covers a large amount of UMDers.
And for an 8th....Paint (safe washable kind) or Nacho Cheese if you want another savory in there.
Definitely not water.
I think this covers a large amount of UMDers.
And for an 8th....Paint (safe washable kind) or Nacho Cheese if you want another savory in there.
Definitely not water.
Slime...more slime!!!!!
If you're trying to pick up the UK Splosh crowd (while driving away the rest of us), then sure.... Go with beans. 
Also, the Never Water bunch is clearly taking cues from the Never Shaving Cream bunch.
Also, the Never Water bunch is clearly taking cues from the Never Shaving Cream bunch.
Alienation for all! Mwahahahaha!
Nah like I said it's just hypothetical at this point, so...good for people to register their loves and hates here. But I do like to imagine a crazy, Dumper's Wheel of Torture where everything is in play!
Regis, you've earned your keep for the day.
Nah like I said it's just hypothetical at this point, so...good for people to register their loves and hates here. But I do like to imagine a crazy, Dumper's Wheel of Torture where everything is in play!
Regis, you've earned your keep for the day.
SStuff said: If you're trying to pick up the UK Splosh crowd (while driving away the rest of us), then sure.... Go with beans.
Also, the Never Water bunch is clearly taking cues from the Never Shaving Cream bunch.
Also, the Never Water bunch is clearly taking cues from the Never Shaving Cream bunch.
Beans: Good. Water: Bad. Shaving Cream: Worse. Rich: 0 for 3.
Alienation for all? Hardly. You just solved your problem! Different types of pies in different slots. This is the Pie Zone not the substance zone. Fill as many different pies as you can like in the Tracy pie vid, and represent them on the wheel. All the other crap you fill in in between the different kinds of pies ..and do so sparingly...some gunge (yellow please as a hat tip to me for laying this all out) a couple different kinds of cakes, maybe
a blast to the face and body with an old skool seltzer bottle...just some ideas....but the wheel gotta be pie dominant. That Tracy pie vid was amazing...go with the hose again please and make Tracy the contestant.
a blast to the face and body with an old skool seltzer bottle...just some ideas....but the wheel gotta be pie dominant. That Tracy pie vid was amazing...go with the hose again please and make Tracy the contestant.
SStuff said: If you're trying to pick up the UK Splosh crowd (while driving away the rest of us), then sure.... Go with beans.
Also, the Never Water bunch is clearly taking cues from the Never Shaving Cream bunch.
Also, the Never Water bunch is clearly taking cues from the Never Shaving Cream bunch.
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
Disclaimer: Everyone has their own tastes and that's cool. Personally, I prefer if models weren't cleaned with water in the middle of a video that's literal whole focus is to be messy.
fullypied said:
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
You may be right. But the comparisons are similar: Both are viewpoints that weren't expressed until recently, and now pop up in almost every single thread. Usually in the kind of ridiculous "oh, one pie in 15 was SC? NO SALE!" mentality that can only occur when producers are literally twisting themselves into pretzels trying to cater to every tiny WAM niche.
That said, I feel your pain. In my early WAM days I watched WAY too many messes involving beans (and other "savoury foods") because if you wanted a scene with pies, it would involve ALL the messy foods, ALWAYS. Fortunately "pies alone" split off into its own genre pretty early. And I never looked back.
I do think I'm gonna re-edit some videos for the Never Water crowd. Basically you'll pay to get the first half of a 40-minute video, pre-water. Then you'll pay again to get the second part, where the model is miraculously clean again. (But how?? MAGIC!!) Come to think of it, this is actually a GENIUS idea.... I double my money, and you never have to see that awful H2O!!
SStuff said:
You may be right. But the comparisons are similar: Both are viewpoints that weren't expressed until recently, and now pop up in almost every single thread. Usually in the kind of ridiculous "oh, one pie in 15 was SC? NO SALE!" mentality that can only occur when producers are literally twisting themselves into pretzels trying to cater to every tiny WAM niche.
That said, I feel your pain. In my early WAM days I watched WAY too many messes involving beans (and other "savoury foods") because if you wanted a scene with pies, it would involve ALL the messy foods, ALWAYS. Fortunately "pies alone" split off into its own genre pretty early. And I never looked back.
I do think I'm gonna re-edit some videos for the Never Water crowd. Basically you'll pay to get the first half of a 40-minute video, pre-water. Then you'll pay again to get the second part, where the model is miraculously clean again. (But how?? MAGIC!!) Come to think of it, this is actually a GENIUS idea.... I double my money, and you never have to see that awful H2O!!
fullypied said:
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
You may be right. But the comparisons are similar: Both are viewpoints that weren't expressed until recently, and now pop up in almost every single thread. Usually in the kind of ridiculous "oh, one pie in 15 was SC? NO SALE!" mentality that can only occur when producers are literally twisting themselves into pretzels trying to cater to every tiny WAM niche.
That said, I feel your pain. In my early WAM days I watched WAY too many messes involving beans (and other "savoury foods") because if you wanted a scene with pies, it would involve ALL the messy foods, ALWAYS. Fortunately "pies alone" split off into its own genre pretty early. And I never looked back.
I do think I'm gonna re-edit some videos for the Never Water crowd. Basically you'll pay to get the first half of a 40-minute video, pre-water. Then you'll pay again to get the second part, where the model is miraculously clean again. (But how?? MAGIC!!) Come to think of it, this is actually a GENIUS idea.... I double my money, and you never have to see that awful H2O!!
nice try, but humans are 57-60% water. i guess us hydrophobes will have to take our business elsewhere
I would do maybe 8 substances. Obviously pies and slime would have to be on it (real pies and cake batter slime that is). Then maybe a synthetic gunge (like the Messy Supplies gunge I just started using) and like a 'slosh' or shaving cream and water mixture, either delivered via plate or pour. So that's 4. What else? Beans? Water? Chocolate? Gimme some ideas!
How about cooking oil like what Charlotte and the Mostwam team have been using a lot lately in some of their customs? Great effects from those oil-covered pours!
about the messy prize wheel. avoid anything that's not sugary food,
avoid water and oil.
if it was just for me, I would tell you to stay with pies and slime.
for me as soon as there's food other than desert... it's disgusting and I feel bad for the model. (beans, Mayo, Ketchup, oil, cheese and cream) avoid these like plague.
that's just my opinion anyway.
for things I would add, aside from the obvious (pie and slime) Chocolate with good texture, cake, mud, paint, custard.
avoid water and oil.
if it was just for me, I would tell you to stay with pies and slime.
for me as soon as there's food other than desert... it's disgusting and I feel bad for the model. (beans, Mayo, Ketchup, oil, cheese and cream) avoid these like plague.
that's just my opinion anyway.
for things I would add, aside from the obvious (pie and slime) Chocolate with good texture, cake, mud, paint, custard.
JaMC said: In my previous UMD incarnation as Johnny_Yen, I was probably identified with the never shaving cream movement as much as anyone. But, it's really not that simple.
It's not so much "never shaving cream" as it is "don't try to pass shaving cream off as a pie".
Squirting shaving cream, fine.
Wrestling in shaving cream, great.
Naked on a bed full of shaving cream, terrific.
Anyway, that's my take on it.
But, "never water" is, in fact, NEVER water.
Also, in my personal opinion beans and eggs are NOT sexy at all. Salad dressing, Ketchup and mustard and relish also not my bag.
Savory items always seem mean-spirited to me.
It's not so much "never shaving cream" as it is "don't try to pass shaving cream off as a pie".
Squirting shaving cream, fine.
Wrestling in shaving cream, great.
Naked on a bed full of shaving cream, terrific.
Anyway, that's my take on it.
But, "never water" is, in fact, NEVER water.
Also, in my personal opinion beans and eggs are NOT sexy at all. Salad dressing, Ketchup and mustard and relish also not my bag.
Savory items always seem mean-spirited to me.
Couldn't agree more... Savory food is just a immediate turn off for me. even if the producer uses only pies and then uses (ketchup for example) I just want to turn the fucking video off. it ruins the scene for me. I always had a hard time with Mostwam because every time they have a good outfit or a good start to a video... they sometime ruin it by using ''Savory food''. and it happens almost every time I'm enjoying a video. but every time it's an outfit or a girl I don't care for, they use every substance I like.
dolphin said: this is why you look at a video and decide whether its to your taste or not before you buy it, nothing pleases everyone. ah, the beauty of the free market
Totally agree. free markets are the best thing to ever happen to this world
I'm talking about when I was subbed to the mostwam.tv. that is one of the reasons that I unsubscribed. because there was maybe only 2-3 update a month I actually liked.
When it was originally created, it was one of the best place for my taste.
Seems like we have a #NeverSavory movement on our hands 
Guys, it's ... it's not like you can smell the savory foods when you watch the videos.
And Ann-Margret in baked beans is one of the all-time classic mainstream scenes, so this #NeverSavory business is ahistorical.
Shaving cream, though, is Satan's foam and we are having none of that.
And Ann-Margret in baked beans is one of the all-time classic mainstream scenes, so this #NeverSavory business is ahistorical.
Shaving cream, though, is Satan's foam and we are having none of that.
Regis said:
And Ann-Margret in baked beans is one of the all-time classic mainstream scenes, so this #NeverSavory business is ahistorical.
Shaving cream, though, is Satan's foam and we are having none of that.
And Ann-Margret in baked beans is one of the all-time classic mainstream scenes, so this #NeverSavory business is ahistorical.
Shaving cream, though, is Satan's foam and we are having none of that.
I mean, are we REALLY talking historical now?
Because 75% of all the black-and-white pie scenes (and probably 75% of mainstream as well) are shaving cream, not real stuff.
And the Ann-Margret scene is... Not my thing.
And if using almost all shaving cream pies actually hurt your sales (Spoiler: It doesn't! Just like 100% real pies doesn't help them!!).... Ken would not still be here after 15+ years.....
SStuff said:
You may be right. But the comparisons are similar: Both are viewpoints that weren't expressed until recently, and now pop up in almost every single thread. Usually in the kind of ridiculous "oh, one pie in 15 was SC? NO SALE!" mentality that can only occur when producers are literally twisting themselves into pretzels trying to cater to every tiny WAM niche.
That said, I feel your pain. In my early WAM days I watched WAY too many messes involving beans (and other "savoury foods") because if you wanted a scene with pies, it would involve ALL the messy foods, ALWAYS. Fortunately "pies alone" split off into its own genre pretty early. And I never looked back.
I do think I'm gonna re-edit some videos for the Never Water crowd. Basically you'll pay to get the first half of a 40-minute video, pre-water. Then you'll pay again to get the second part, where the model is miraculously clean again. (But how?? MAGIC!!) Come to think of it, this is actually a GENIUS idea.... I double my money, and you never have to see that awful H2O!!
fullypied said:
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
I refuse to be associated with the Never Shaving Cream group haha. For the record, the Never Shaving Cream group is a small niche group. However, the Never Water group is more than like 90% of the messy forum
You may be right. But the comparisons are similar: Both are viewpoints that weren't expressed until recently, and now pop up in almost every single thread. Usually in the kind of ridiculous "oh, one pie in 15 was SC? NO SALE!" mentality that can only occur when producers are literally twisting themselves into pretzels trying to cater to every tiny WAM niche.
That said, I feel your pain. In my early WAM days I watched WAY too many messes involving beans (and other "savoury foods") because if you wanted a scene with pies, it would involve ALL the messy foods, ALWAYS. Fortunately "pies alone" split off into its own genre pretty early. And I never looked back.
I do think I'm gonna re-edit some videos for the Never Water crowd. Basically you'll pay to get the first half of a 40-minute video, pre-water. Then you'll pay again to get the second part, where the model is miraculously clean again. (But how?? MAGIC!!) Come to think of it, this is actually a GENIUS idea.... I double my money, and you never have to see that awful H2O!!
You must be going way far back if there was a time that pre-dates "pies only" videos. Who was the first pies-only producer?
I'd like to see tar and feathers be one of the wheel options, but personally, I'd prefer it if the "tar" used was dark chocolate syrup. This would also have the effect of still appealing -- at least potentially -- to the people who reject anything that isn't sweet and edible. Of course, feathers aren't terribly edible, but maybe some of those folks can get beyond that part.
PieZone said:
You must be going way far back if there was a time that pre-dates "pies only" videos. Who was the first pies-only producer?
You must be going way far back if there was a time that pre-dates "pies only" videos. Who was the first pies-only producer?
For me, it was Neil Edwards, who was selling his pie-only amateur videos on VHS through the mail. YEARS before his website and everything else. I found him via Hurley Coward (not his real name!), who ran something called "The Pie Mafia" and compiled cliptapes with pie-only scenes (although some slime got in too) and published a newsletter (like a REAL newsletter that came in snail mail) highlighting mainstream pie scenes and possible alerts.
I mean, I know this sounds like the 1800s. It was.... 1996???
Yeah I feel old.
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