I'll try to keep this as concise and clear as possible. First up, what is about WAM that excites you? Is it the "naughty" side of doing something that seems taboo such as ruining good clothes? Do the clothes matter? Or is it all about the substance, whatever that may be? How much does the model matter to you?

Part of the reasons for my questions is that lately I've not found much in the WAM video market that I've been tempted to buy. For me, it is a lot about the model when I enjoy WAM. I want her (I'm only into the ladies) to be attractive. I prefer it if she at least looks attainable. "Girl Next Door" type, I guess? The girl you look at and think "yeah, I'd do her". To that note, it's why I've always loved girls like Amber (pie-zone), Sam, Breana, Jessy and Taylor (slapstickstuff), Skye (most mostwam when it was here).

As far as clothing, yes, a bikini can very sexy if done right. I'm thinking Shelly and Breanna vibes. Hell, put the Breanna and Jessy video where Jessy takes collateral damage before the real pie.

Can you all offer up some suggestions for videos that would be similar to that and possibly help me find thatvnext purchase?

Yes, the clothes matter, but so does the attractiveness of the model. Yes it's the naughty aspect of ruining the girl's work at appearing attractive and sexy.

I like pies and I don't usually care for gunge. Occasionally mud, definitely water, definitely gooey cakes. I like thrown pastry over pushed into her face, unless by another attractive girl who is soon gonna get pied herself.

Although I buy most of the newer Slapstick Stuff videos, more and more I've been going back and picking up the earlier ones I missed or watching the ones i already have. More thrown pies, less nudity. Thats what I would recommend for you. He has a vast catalog.

And I applaud him for a minimum of tattoos and no piercings, even now.

Breanna attainable? Your self-confidence is higher than mine!

Oh, I'm not saying I could land a Breanna. Simply saying she's hot in that "I'd hit that" or "yeah I'd do her" "girl next door" look. I love her and Jessy together. Great chemistry and a lot of fun. Nudity is not essential for me (it actually helps as my wife is more prone to watch and be happy to try to replicate the activity). I'm going to have to go back and look at Rich's catalogs.

A bit more my taste is what you point out with the thrown instead of pushed.

Going back to the Breanna thing. I think it's easiest for to explain that I like Breanna because she's indeed "sexy", whereas Jessy brought the "cute". Like Shelly was also very cute and playful, but brought the sexy side depending on the video.

Damn, now I really need to go look through that site.

Personally i like the humiliation factor. Obviously I don't want girls getting blindsided and humiliated in public, but a girl signing up to do a game show or scene for a WAM producer and getting slimed and embarrassed in the process is right up my alley. I prefer non-WAMmers over regular WAMmers, but I do enjoy WAM regulars, like Jayce, Kacie James, Bri, etc. I especially enjoy the videos where they introduce non-WAMmers to WAM.

Substance varies, really. Sometimes I prefer pies, other times I prefer gunge or food. I've developed a taste for baked bean gungings lately. Also I'm particularly fond of gunge tanks.

Being a supermodel also isn't necessary for me. I enjoy super hot girls getting messy, but I also much prefer the girl-next-door type getting slimed. I won't list any names, because I dont want anyone taking it the wrong way, but some of my all-time favorite scenes were from casual pretty girls you'd pass on the the streets, not Playboy models.

Clothing doesn't matter to me. I have a hair fetish, so I really only care if hair gets messy. I won't buy a video unless there's messy hair in it and I'm fine with girls getting slimed in clothes. Sometimes I even prefer it, just depends on what I'm in the mood for at the time. If the clothes come off in a video, that's just a bonus.

Hey! I *am* trying to add in non-nude models as I can still.... It's just tricky since the pool is shrinking, and most models now willing to do WAM will also do nude, so....

The days of "girl next door" models might be behind us, but I feel like I can still find a few new ones. In the meantime, definitely check out the back catalog, as others have mentioned. I'm still amazed how often some old scenes keep selling. (Sometimes a random older volume will sell... 4 or 5 or 6 downloads in a week?! I never know what prompts it.)

I will say, the forthcoming SS300 is gonna be non-nude, so stay tuned for that!

I'm a slime fan, although I do like pies and cakes and water, so if a video has a woman getting slimed I'm interested. I prefer the classic slime recipe(s) but it's not a big deal as long as it's thick. I'm not a fan of the watery slime, it's just colored water. As far as looks it doesn't matter to me, but I do prefer inexperienced models who tend to give natural reactions as opposed to seasoned ones who know what to expect and tend to give the standard "surprised" reactions. I want the scene to be as natural as possible. I don't care about nudity but I won't look away if it's there. lol

I am a fan of nice clothing being completely messed up while worn by a nice looking model. The more attention to attaining an attractive look being reflected in the scene, the better. Allwam seemed to be a dream come true at one time with its multi player mud and oil wrestling matches, pie fights, etc. The women seemed to dress to the nines and carried purses, hats and other items into the mess as well. One wrestling match in particular had the spectators getting splattered with mud as usual. The audience members were often pulled into the mud at times. The best moment was when an audience member who had managed to avoid the mud was pulled in at the last of the video and had her pristine clothing completely covered. Yes, it hit the naughty side of seeing everyone including the audience having their fancy clothing, make up, hairdos and everything else messed up. I enjoy all kinds of messy substances with pies being at the top of the list. When possible, having one model stay above the mess till the very end and then getting destroyed with mess is the absolute best. In single model scenes, the nicer the clothing, make up, etc. the better. Then a slow covering including the clothing, hosiery and even shoes so that the model looks nothing like at the beginning of the scene is poetry in motion. If the clothing becomes so heavy it falls off and we get to see the model exposed,, even better. In any case, a clean up shower is always a welcome addition to the scene. A nice shower scene where we get the bonus of wet look is nice. Or if the model lost their clothing, seeing the mess removed to show the full effect of nude skin is a wonderful finish.

If you like girls next door I'd check us out

Someone on Instagram (with your permission, you told me) is posting stills of your older scenes, with specific reference to which scenes.

Might be me? I've posted a lot of SlapstickStuff volumes, with permission indeed.

The problem is that I currently have technical problems with Insta (I can't open my own posts anymore, which took away my motivation to post). And I'm afraid to report it to Instagram since they may not appreciate my type of account... ? Anyway, I might as well start a new thread about that.

I have a lot of your older videos on a hard drive I just found. Always been a fan. Looking forward to seeing the new stuff.

If Breanna looks like a "girl next door" to you, then you must live in a truly exceptional neighborhood. A lot of Rich's early models (meaning long before Breanna came along) had "girl next door" appeal, and every once in while he gets a newer model that does, but I don't see how on earth Breanna of all models constitutes a "girl next door."

Rich writes of Breanna on his own site: "You could call her the most beautiful woman in the history of Wam.... and you wouldn't be wrong." Perhaps a bit immodest on Rich's part (since he's describing one of his own star models), but I'm sure a fair number of people would agree with this. She's not the most beautiful woman in the history of WAM to me, but that's just my opinion. And even I would say she's up there near the top, just in terms of looks. But I'm not a fan of her personality (and again, that's just me) so she's nowhere near one of the greatest WAM models for me, but she seems to hold a special place in many WAM fans' hearts.)

it's like candy.. hot, sweet, and sticky...

Do you have any humiliation scene recommendationa?

what is about WAM that excites you? A compendium of several things, the "naughty" side of doing something that seems taboo such as ruining perfect pristines girls wearing good clothes, the anticipation of that and the part of humiliation and punishment
Do the clothes matter? For me yes, I like the girl to be dressed in fashion, with a preppy or casual style, some clothes that I like are jeans (especially if they are Levis or are ripped), blouses/shirts, denim jackets, leather bikers, leather pants, heels... I also like the clothes to be the girl's own and that she has worn them on a daily basis.
As for substances, I like practically everything, eggs, pies, mud, green slime, chocolate, custard , sauces,...
How much does the model matter to you?The model has to seem attractive to me, but she doesn't have to be a supermodel either. I also like her to be a wam virgin, because of the spontaneity of her reactions when she is pied or gunged.

For me, clothed models who are new to the genre and will give authentic reactions to their new sensation gets me every time. Not a fan of clothes that are impervious to gunge, I like to see the gunge trickle its way down the cleavage, or inside the top of trousers.

As for the gunge itself, I actually prefer things like beans, custard and other foodstuffs that suggest a less 'staged' experience. I think Jeremy Custard does an incredible job ticking my boxes, although once the models nude I'm not as interested. Call me weird...hey, just call me!

Obviously the subjects must always be consenting, but I must confess I love unsuspecting folk being humiliated (like audience members back in the NHP days), and the realisation that something's about to happen adds to it.

Latest fave videos/channels? I'm really enjoying watching the Friday Forfeit challenges of a super couple on YouTube. They're both life-loving, consenting adults (who have also said they don't mind being shared on UMD in a recent vid), so for me they tick most of my boxes....just need to work on that cleavage a little!

Last Friday's vid in particular is AMAZING - https://youtu.be/8_U1_6oASas

I am not trying to have a debate or approach this aggressively, just genuinely curious as someone who started posting homemade wam that kinda turned into something, what does attainable or "girl next door" exactly mean? In my wam videos, I need things to all make sense to me, so the outfits to "go" with the substance, the actual wamming I am doing to flow naturally-that is what makes a good wamming video for me! I think it excites me to actually let loose and play in mess! Hope you find what you are looking for!

I think it's a very difficult to explain vibe. I bought some of your early scenes (club wam, higher or lower and national ice cream day) and they just have some sort of different *feel* to them from the newer one I got (creme de la kitty). Particularly the first two mentioned, those are very strong "girl next door" and I love them.

I know EXACTLY what you mean now! You're more looking for a hesitant, amateur vibe-that's not creme de la kitty for sure, more like "please pie me" and I actually just did one over on my OF that I will release here at some point! Btw-thanks so much for buying those scenes!

Don't be pessimistic. East Coast Slime has totally resurrected the "regular girl."

Great comments. My answer would mostly align with Pieman's (which is why I like his channel).

For starters, what I'm NOT into; mud and clay and paint. With the latter two, I'm always concerned wit permanent damage. With gunge, I prefer thicker, more opaque consistency, not the translucent still. Biggest turn-off is excessive wiping; it's the equivalent of "cum dodging" in porn. I do enjoy when the model "breaks," in that she stops wiping and accepts it. Also not a big fan of excessive setups, like tanks and other contraptions. The model, the substance, the volume, and the shooting angles and lighting should carry the scene.

But above all, It's the storyline/backstory. Although not WAM, that's what MY social media presentations were all about. Nothing more humbling than the honor of getting a woman to trust you enough to debauch her, but in a safe space and way, knowing you won't betray it. The Man The Wife is a personal favorite because of the referral dynamics. The most favorite recent is Mom Jessica popping her WAM virginity approaching middle age, and her next scene brings her daughter who just came of age and they do it together. Her watching in pride as they show her kid no mercy took me over the top. Friends luring friends. Aunts bringing in nieces. The concept of bringing those you truly care about into humiliation, and enjoying it is priceless.

There's also a lot of that with Messygirl, as well as the younger women playing dominant role over older models. Dakota is the best at it, my favorite is when she dommed Sophia multiple times. Also, Zoey and Stephanie destroying their mom, even disciplining her during the shoot when she prematurely dips her head.

My favorite online porn site was Money Talks. Obviously, there were staged scenes with pros, but the best were the "person on the street" dares. Messygirl had a few of those with Alana early, especially Maria. Those were some of my early purchases. And the pies that hit like punches, which is why I also dig pie-fight girls.

The best of the recurring models is Anglefan, IMHO, due to the stripped down nature and the variety of girls, yet Ken still is consistent with his delivery, so the joy is watching the different reactions, from one girl ambivalent who wants more, to one realizing she got more than she bargained for.

My two cents.

I enjoy either when a girl is either really enjoying the mess, laughing and enthusiastic, or else (consensual) humiliation.
Also much prefer the pretty girl next door type or athletic build: I am not at all attracted to the conventional presentation of 'hot girls' with huge front and rear ends, spray tans, exaggerated make up and lips, overly groomed hair - it looks unnatural and rather grotesque. A slightly geeky or athletic woman wearing normal clothing is much more appealing.

What's with all the slime? Is there no one that is a cake or pie purist? I'm not complaining, I'm just saying it seems like everything is trending to slime. I know there are some pie only videos. Mud just has mud right?