I was watching videos about lost media and I realized that there's is a lot of wam lost media. Scenes that were once common and could be bought by all are now lost to time and the internet.

Now I do understand that some media is lost for a reason. The "model" doesn't want her videos and pics up anymore. The model or website was banned for a reason. Maybe the current rights holder doesn't want to sale the material anymore or can't or some other reason like that.

Some media is lost simply because of a hard drive crashing or some other technical issue.

What's your favorite lost wam media?

I was about to say anything from Pied in the Face Productions but it looks like they're still available (EDIT: Some are still around, looks like earlier stuff that IMO wasn't as good ) Same with the Artshtick Tabitha video. I thought it was gone for years but came back.

I'm totally curious what others have to say here...

Piegirlkay videos for me. She was so incredible when it came to getting messy. I really wish I could have bought that pie for every reply video.

How about some lost "never was" media -- stuff that was never released but which we know exist

In particular, some PiedPinups material. Especially a scene with a redhead wearing a red shirt who gets pied and green slimed (short clip is the 2nd anniversary video trailer). About 5 years ago an old scene or two trickled out, but it appears much of the "old" unreleased stuff hasn't been released, with PiedPinups instead releasing "new" material. To be clear, I know there was PiedPinups material that was offered and removed, I'm not referring to that. Based on prior posts from multiple users here, the scenes I'm referring to were never put up in the download store, but clips were used in the 2nd anniversary video (so it wasn't just a still image set, some of the stuff may fall into that category, but not all)

Cash in hand ready to purchase if made available

I've got a couple

- Jane from Perfect Wetlook went swimming in a couple maxi dresses and I think she's since left the site.

- There was a StreetSplash scene in particular- I've always wondered whether they were actually just random people on the street or were really plants but that's beside the point- where they found a lady in a maxi dress who was supposedly on her way to work and convinced her to get in.

- Lisa looked uncomfortably like one of my second cousins but in a couple Christmas specials she got like full coverage in a couple gowns (I distinctly remember there was a two second clip in a YouTube preview of her already being fully covered with it still coming down and that was more than enough).

- I posted about this back in October but a Stormy Waters shoot of a lady in a maxi dress

- and then last but not least, there was a scene on Eurowam of two ladies "washing" each other's clothes while they still had them on and one of them was in a maxi and I haven't been able to find it since.

Literally anything from Glamour Gunge / Girls Get Gunged. Man I wish I bought more back them.

It has taught me that if I love the look of something now - buy it before someone else packs up shop.

The vintage Crazy Girls stuff. Doesn't look like it will ever be re-released. My Holy Grail of WAM material.

Wamwatchers for me!

I lost my entire collection years ago... I've got nothing from them now... Its heartbreaking

Ally, Paris, Haren etc... Class girls

The Splosh/Gilly Silly House stuff remains the Holy Grail for me, and I'll throw in another vote for PieGirlKay.

I wholeheartedly agree, with the sad passing of Bill, which caused the end of Splosh!/Gilly Silly House this a huge double catastrophe in the World of WAM

I'd love to see the outtakes from the Beatie Boy's "You Gotta Fight For Your Right to Party."

Julies Human Garbage Disposal was lost when Ariel left

I miss Ariel & Messy Jessie very much especially as they did such beautiful work with formalwear

Messy Jessie's "Tied and Pied Outside" - one of the videos she chose not to re-release because it shows her topless.

For decades, I have been harping on creating and maintaining backups, yet a couple times a week, I get an email from someone who "lost everything" in a hard drive crash. Fortunately, at Vidown we have a system to reauthorize past purchases, but that doesn't help if the store is closed or the producer has stopped selling a particular catalog item. Only items that can be seen in a live Vidown catalog can be retrieved from us.

I'm always amazed at the number of people who don't even seem to grasp the concept of "backups". Moving your videos to a USB drive is not backup. Creating and safely storing TWO or more copies of every video is backup. The original on your device, plus a SECOND copy on a networked drive, USB device, or cloud storage, and ideally a THIRD physical copy stored offsite in an outbuilding, safety deposit box, friend's garage, etc. Hard drives and even SSD/M2 drives are temporary disposable storage. They have a widely ranging, unpredictable, but absolute lifespan and they WILL die a horrible death eventually. The loss of one's video archives can hurt, but what causes me the most pain is seeing that these "lost everything" people are often losing all their personal documents, irreplaceable family photos, etc as well. Digital data is fluid and volatile.

MAKE BACKUP COPIES!

This this & this.

Love a file tidy & backup session some evenings, something extremely satisfying is knowing it's all organised & backed up.

Even simpler than that.

1. Fire up your web browser, go to www.backblaze.com

2. Create an account, enter card details, download the app. Make sure to write down the email address and password, store somewhere safe.

3. Install it, accept all the default settings.

4. That's it. Totally "fire and forget" and backs up your entire system, including your WAM collection. Securely and encrypted. $7 a month.

Anyone who has more than a dozen or so purchased downloaded videos and doesn't do this - madness, utter madness.

I am a little leery of unlimited storage options this cheap. I paid into a service like this about 15 to 20 years ago. I had over a terabyte of data. Mainly music. They announced some maintenance they were doing and then went quiet. There was talk in the forums of things going sideways and no one responding. Long story short, they were upgrading their servers and something went south. Everyone lost everything. 3 weeks after it happened they finally admitted everything was gone after minimal communication and excuses about issues during the maintenance. I would LOVE for this to be a more trustworthy solution. I have a LOT of stuff I am relying on RAID 5 and RAID 10 local storage to keep. Nope RAID is not back up and should not be trusted as a backup. You can lose multiple drives at once and gone. I had a client using Windows Storage back when Windows was trying to do a storage OS. It was like Server but with "software RAID support". They had a drive go bad and the person replacing the drives decided to do a hot swap. They pulled out the wrong drive and everything was gone.

There was a company in Canada mid 2005 that I want to say was in Alberta that was making some great WAM content with some awesome models and the best formal outfits. Unfortunately they closed up shop and by the time I realized I lost what I had they were gone.

I personally prefer iDrive. Fully encrypted and 5tb of storage for a little more money each year.

That seems like a MASSIVE weakness in this whole Backblaze concept. What if you're on a trip for 16 or more days?

Backup debate aside, there was a video I got off wammonkey years YEARS ago, some of you might remember, it always sticks out in my mind but I can't remember the name. Had some generic early 2000s electronic music, not the fhm girl pied video, but same time frame. Girl got blasted with all kinds of pies, fruit pies, bakery pies etc I wanna say she also got a hat filled with something over her head? Not the one where the girl gets an egg in the mouth though. I'm p sure the video file was just a name of the girl. I also want to say she had dark hair or the background of the video was dark? Maybe she was wearing leather? Idk this is a deep memory, maybe someone knows what I'm talking about.

Edit: she may have started wearing sunglasses? Definitely a snotty woman gets her comeuppance type video. I think it had text between pies ala PFG that was in red and I wanna say a drippy looking slime aesthetic font

Now there is a name I have not heard in a long time!

This thread makes me want to shop 8TB drives to have as an offline backup. One of the HDDs in my desktop (normally powered down) is a backup of over 20 phones, digital cameras, and HDDs going back to the late '80s + images of all the games disks from when I was a kid. I still have the originals but don't want to go to the colossal PITA that it was to do the actual backing up from all of those a second time!

Note: All-caps filter keeps blocking this, all words with *word* should be read as if all-caps.


Ouch! However, I've used Backblaze for years, it's solid and dependable. It's not my only backup but I sleep a lot easier at night knowing it's there.


Ask MM about the joys of *raid*. Week beforte Christmas 2021 he got a warning that a *raid* disk was failing, but not yet failed. Pulled it to replace, at which point one of the other "healthy" disks went bang with no warning and took the whole system down. That's what caused the Midwinter outage that year.


Ouch again, bad timing. Nothing can protect against everything, but the number of people who've lost $$$$ of downloaded videos that they only had one copy of is scary.


That's not entirely correct - they'll drop any external USB drive that's not been connected to the system for a period. But internal disks are backed up regardless.


Backblaze is umlimited, but fair enough if you've less data. My main PC here in the eastern tower has:
512MB ssd boot disk
1tb data disk
2tb data disk
12tb data disk
4tb USB drive (photos)
8tb USB drive (Qdrive)
4tb USB drive (extra space)

The total data backed up at Backblaze is 14TB.

All the unreleased Saturation Hall, Langstonedale, and Imperatrix Domina scenes, plus the photos from the Photo drive, are also regularly copied over the house network to an 8TB disk attached to the main entertainment PC in the Great Hall, as downloading that amount of data from Backblaze would take quite a while - had to do it last summer when the nearly full 6TB disk that previously had the 4K video masters decided to fail with no warning - replaced it with the 12 TB above, but downloading everything took over a month.


Only applies to USB disks that aren't connected to the PC being backed up. As long as they stay plugged in, all stays backed up.


I remember them, great gunge scenes with a lass in jeans. Scary how long ago that was.


Definitely make sure that drive is duplicated, and keep the duplicate somewhere else. You get very little warning of disks failing these days.

I wish I had taken advantage of a lot more of Clown Zebin's (or Clown_Chryssy) scenes (just about all of which were "Name Your Price") before she took them down. A lot of great-looking solo wamming that seemed right up my alley.

Oh... my... fuck!


Yeah, this one would be sent off about 1,000 miles away to a non-tech savvy relative's house. I somehow ended up with a couple of second hand rack mounted servers from a friend, and as soon as I get all the hard drive carriers from him I planned on setting one up and using it as a media storage server. Also something to run IP cameras off of if it works out and I'm able to learn how.

One of them is LOUD. It sounds like a C-5 A/B, the ones with the old engines. 4 big fans, all out of tune with each other and it's the same high pitched whine this makes when they power the engines down to idle.
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Ftr it wasn't one of their in house productions, just happened to get it from there when you could download other shit off their site

Personally I'm more interested in finding lost tv gunge scenes/full episodes from the past.

I still have all of the files from my old wammonkey site. It's not one I immediately recall though. I'll have a look through the folders and see if I can find this. If I uploaded it on the site then I definitely still have it.

I have a feeling the girls name started with a T. There was also no talking in the video, just the music and the text.

Edit: attached pic is a reference to the time frame we're talking

Messy Maddie was an Asian-American woman in the Bay Area that did some great videos more than a decade ago. There was one video with Elise Graves (Maddie was not actually in this one) that probably had one of the few good WAM eggings I have ever seen from a producer.