After posting our latest update, we just realized we didn't have our monthly poll yet! So here we are at the last minute posting one!

We want to know, in a two girl scene, what distribution of mess between the two women is preferred?

- One gets messy, but the other stays clean throughout (humiliation)

- One gets messy, one stays clean until the very end (comeuppance)

- Both get messy relatively evenly throughout (tit-for-tat)

Any outfit, any situation, any type of mess. Girls could be messing each other or getting messy from off screen. Think just in general. We look forward to hearing your thoughts!

I could understand your feelings in that scenario.

I believe as long as both are equally messed up 'by' the end. If one is totally slimed throughout, the 'comeuppance' should be the same amount of mess applied, but probably all at once in a much shorter time. Just a preference!

I think a bit of all 3 will be great for everyone!

Personally i love one gets messy and one stays clean!

Both get messy relatively evenly throughout (tit-for-tat)

tit for tat is sooooo fun! as long as both girls are having a good time throughout....ad libbing, and it doesnt seem TOO scripted? i think they are SUCH winners. I feel like the wife and her friends could TOTALLY pull that off!! i love when the girls start laughing off the cuff too. ariel and i do that so much. sometimes i realize its probably too much for the customer if it is a custom so i cut it out....but, wamming with friends is hilarious sometimes. especially when someone like my dumb ass runs off camera to grab something and RUNS BACK ON a slippery tarp and falls right on my ass.....!!! hahahaha

ariel left that on there. it was too good.

i think the ladies would do amazing. give them a script but let them ad lib. takes away the pressure and makes a more realistic adn fun to watch scene!! plus their personalities could SOOOOOOO do it!!! they are so cute and fun and funny! hot as hell to add to it!

weeeeee!!! happy sunday funday!

Thank you Jayce! We love our girls and I believe you are correct with what you suggested. I also agree that falls are funny, lol. Long as no one got hurt too bad! And today was my birthday so I definitely had a Sunday funday some fun with mess, but that's for my eyes only.

>=)

I like BOTH scenarios where one girl is clean while the other is destroyed and the other where they both get it.

So I write my scripts so I can have my cake and eat it too. I make them long enough where the first half typical has one girl getting all of the mess and then the second half they all get it.

I definitely prefer where both end up fully messy, and it's done tit-for-tat through the scene. I reallyt love scenes where the recipient of each round meekly accepts what is being done to her, or even actively assists, say holding her own pants out for the other person to pour stuff into - but then gleefully exacts revenge when it's her turn to pour and the other model has to just unresistingly allow whatever is being done to her.

One-stays-clean can be OK as long as the person getting messy is as well-dressed as the one staying clean. Someone in some horrid skimpy thing being gunged by someone in what would be a nice WAM outfit like a t-shirt and jeans, but who doesn't get messy, is just frustrating.

I'm a big messy sweater fan. Will be fun To see Ellie wearing a thick turtleneck sweater with jeans and hair like the initiation video. The wife can be with her with the same look she have on is presentation picture.
The wife can be slimed three time in front of Ellie and Ellie will be happy To see that but surprise a pie in the face of Ellie and lots and lots of slime.
The wife smile but Ellie is very very hungry .

Love how granular you make these questions.

I love the comeuppance technique.

I don't need the comeuppance amount to be as copious as the initial amount, but I do prefer it to be "enough".

Easiest example would be one of Phoebe's videos with her friend, I think it was Carla.

Carla got a bunch of pies and a fantastic green sliming - just perfect.

The setup was that they were going to go clubbing afterward, so Phoebe finished and told her to get cleaned up so they could go out.

Carla did the "no, not until..." thing and then planted a perfect pie in Phoebe's face.

It really was perfect, and I've seen people write here about how they thought the one single pie was just right.

I disagree. I thought it missed the mark. A pie sandwich followed by a green sliming for her would've made it perfect for me. Not the barrage that Carla got, but enough to constitute "revenge".

That's my thing on two-girl comeuppance. It doesn't have to be equal mess applied, but it can't be a token gesture either.

And for god's sake, no smearing of floor mess on the face and calling it good. That's bush league.

As usual, the way you guys roll is just about right for me. On every level.

Thank you for the detailed response and the compliment. And I truly feel like I remember that Phoebe vid.

The polls is still up for a few days, but we honestly thought the two girls get messy evenly throughout would be the winner. I guess we were wrong! (so far)

I am of many different minds and honestly your team can make all three situations work.

On a personal level. I love when one stays clean throughout. Its fun piling on the misery for one character as they try to get the other messy and failing. Heck, I have a dream scenario of magic show gone awry for the magician while her bullied assistant stays clean. But this admittedly has to depend on the scenario. Slapstick Stuff had a really good one way back in around the 60-80 range I can't recall right now where it was pefect for it.

Tit for tat is a classic. Always great and always fun. Its the most neutral situation and easiest to play with. The rapport between your cast would make it easy to enjoy.

Finally, the tilted scale of mess is also great. You have shown it recently to great success. Build up tension as to when the mess happens. And can just be as simple as teasing the victim until they snap. Or just playing along in support. Dream scenario here is a messy Little Red Pied in hood getting destroyed by the wolf, wondering where "Grandma" is, only to find out the two are in a WAM relationship and its "Grandma's" turn.

Again though, I stress that with your team, you can easily do since you all make it fun. All I ask is that you go with a mix of all three regardless of poll results. Variety is the spice of life, after all!

There isn't an answer. It depends on the scene and the girls. And even then opposite approaches can work. Look at Slapstickstuff Carrie - she's great as innocent victim and great as getting a deserved comeuppance.

Sadly it's no surprise to see the one girl stays clean scenario in last place with less than 20% . Those of us in that camp have learned to accept that there will understandably be slim pickings for us among producers trying to make a living, as we are such a minority.

One reason I started filming my own scenes as a hobby was because I just wanted more of this type of wam. Now I do it full time and most of the scenes I make are customs..but when I do make a non-custom scene, I usually take the opportunity to go back to the 'one stays clean throughout' scenario. I get as much pleasure from watching the reaction of the gloater, as seeing the girl being wammed. I am all for the wammed girl getting revenge in a separate scene...but, for my tastes, it just kills the magic of everything that has preceded it, if somehow at the last minute the wammed girl gets revenge.

Your scenes always look fantastic though, whatever the set-up, and your scenarios and set-ups are fantastic, as is the mess. Hopefully you'll find room for all the distribution variants in your oeuvre. Keep up the great work.

What I really love is a full humiliation scenario.

Meaning, not only mess involved.

I find really huniliating when a girl loses her skirt and she is left in funny undies.

I bought your last video because I saw a spitting out photo. And I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I did watch that part... let me say that the spit out to be really humuliating, has to be really slow, and after some seconds after the mess fall/hit your face (that's my thing).

Falling face first in the mess is also appealing to me...

And real pies without shaving cream would be apreciated!!

I like your work... I really do...

What I would like to see once in a while would be "we don't know" scenes and both girls get slimed at the same time, like in the you can't days.

Maybe a classic magic word demonstration: idk for green, Free or freedom for red, don't blame me for yellow and drop it for blue.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are we DEFINITELY need to do a "we don't know." I'm baffled I haven't thought to do that. There's also the scenario of one girl hugging the other and saying 'I don't know" and they both get it by default.

Thank you for the complement and of course for buying! We could add in some 'slow spit outs' here and there. I understand your appeal on that. It's like the acceptance of the humiliation/what's happening to you.

Thank you very much for your post Rev. Very glad to hear from you! Thank you for the nice words of course! I actually have some ideas in mind for scenarios where a girl stays clean and the other gets messy. I really do. It's good to diversify the distribution of mess.

Carrie in SlapstickStuff is one of the greatest 'victim' girls of all time.

I think we have the perfect solution here -- one scene in which one girl gets humiliatingly wammed, and then another *and separate* revenge scene.

I agree that a hastily arranged messy revenge detracts from the delightful contrast between the wammed girl and the clean girl, but equally the revenge scenario has its own motivational pleasures. Good suggestion, Rev!

From my POV the "one stays clean" idea raises several challenges, however having discussed it with Honeysuckle during a post-shoot meal a while back, where she said she quite likes the humiliation aspect of being gunged by someone who stays clean and you aren't (at least in that scene) allowed to get your own back on, I start to understand the appeal. The problem then becomes that it's very expensive, paying two sets of model fees (even if one is reduced) for only one model actually getting messy. Will customers pay for a two-girl scene where one of them stays clean?

Though thinking more about it, I realise I have bought a one-stays-clean set before, one of Candy's, where Destiny, a gorgeous woman in a skimpy pink bikini and thigh-high pink patent boots stayed clean, while totally messing with custard and sauce, and then destroying with scissors, a beautiful gold formal dress being worn by the also-gorgeous Harley. It works for me because the person being messed up is fully and nicely clothed. Checking through the photos I realise Destiny does get messed up right at the end but by then Harley has had her dress ripped off and my main interest is seeing her messed up in the dress, so I don't usually watch it all the way through. Clean sample pic below, it's "Destiny Trashes Harley's Gown" on Candy Custard's store, here: https://candy-custard.umd.net/download_info/destiny-trashes-harleys-gown

When the rules relax and we do finally re-start shooting multi-model scenes again we are thinking of experimenting with some new styles, and given Honeysuckle's comment "one stays clean" might be one of the things we play with, if we can find a formula for it that works within our overall style and setting. As ever how many such scenes we might do will all depend on reception, but be interesting to try it.

I'm glad that on further reflection you can see the appeal and that clip you discuss seems to be a case in point! (Great sample pic too :thumbsup

"Will customers pay for a two-girl scene where one of them stays clean?" -- that's a good question, but I'm intrigued by Honeysuckle's comments about the humiliation aspect of being gunged by another girl who stays clean -- even within a single clip I think it can work if the revenge aspect is slow, deliberate and methodical, ideally with an authority figure mandating the second girl's gunging as a kind of punishment for the transgressive first.

It's a question of those intricate dynamics that are almost as important as the pies or gunge themselves (almost, but maybe not quite, I hear you reply ... )

Yes they will! The fact that I am still here is the proof of that. It's just that those scenes *usually* don't sell as well as 2 girl scenes where both get messy. But they certainly do sell..and if its the right model getting messy, and you hit the sweet spot where people who like the humiliation dynamic buy it, but so do the people who just want to see X model get messy in Y outfit and you are delivering on that, so they don't care about anything else (it's just the equivalent of a solo scene with a model they love), some sell very well indeed.

It's a different audience overall, and a smaller one, but we exist and we buy