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"modesls age range"
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I prefer Amy's older material (I thought the last season of IAS was hit-or-miss compared to the previous ones).... But if you want to talk about a top-notch mainstream WAM scene (that's also funny!), this is a great one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNfBbJ0pzbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNfBbJ0pzbA
I'll just briefly jump in here in support of the many models around here that are awesome no matter what their age. Personality, enthusiasm and other traits are more important than age, as far as I'm concerned. It's great to have models of all ages and styles around here. It's also great to see many of them of varying ages and types popping in on threads like this in support of each other. I'm a fan of a great many of them, from Maria to Ariel to Lisa and more. And holy cow, I never knew that you were going on 50, Mrs. Bee. I honestly would have never guessed that. You are easily still as great and fun as anybody else around here, at any age.
To any models out there, if you're still enjoying making the videos and having fun, then by all means go for it. As a viewer, that's the most important thing for me to enjoy seeing. If people like Jayce and Ariel are still having a blast getting messy and having fun decades from now, I'll still enjoying seeing it.
(and to the younger models, feel free to look to these others for inspiration...)
To any models out there, if you're still enjoying making the videos and having fun, then by all means go for it. As a viewer, that's the most important thing for me to enjoy seeing. If people like Jayce and Ariel are still having a blast getting messy and having fun decades from now, I'll still enjoying seeing it.
(and to the younger models, feel free to look to these others for inspiration...)
I have no clue what anyone else's preference really is for models, but mine is as low as 18 and as high as the point at which they stop being attractive.
Funny that.
Funny that.
All flesh is equal when gunged.
VanillaXSlime said:I mean, it's not like Poe's Law is a thing, or that the most radical fringes of feminism are utterly impossible to parody because somewhere, someone out there actually believes the thing the parodist is saying or anything! 
You know, it's funny. I was an English Lit major at a liberal east coast school, and the. I went to law school at the same liberal east coast school. Now I'm a lawyer in a very liberal field in a liberal east coast city in a state that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton.
Yet, I never actually encounter any of these radical feminist talking points that internet people are so worked up over. I don't think I would even know about things like "micro aggression" or "trigger warning" without gamergaters, mra's and other right-wing kooks shrieking about them on Internet forums I follow.
Sometimes it feels like this political correctness nonsense is just some boogie man Donald Trump made up to get himself elected...
From my perspective, attractive women remain attractive well beyond their 20's. There are also a lot of young, ugly models out there whose appeal is beyond me. Karen Wood, for example, is still hot as ever.
Jayce said IM 31!!! LOL 
BUT, to be fair, i have aged a lot since i started on here. its a family trait thing. you get older, my face is more defined, thus, making me look older (since i have not really learned the ways of creams and putting on make up correctly. lol XD ) also being a "used to be, never use sunscreen, outdoor loving hippee & lifeguard" that will do it. ...but hey, that group you put me in....you can call me 34 any day of the week! 
im trying to get my face fuller but unfortunately, skinny runs in the fam. just gotta live with it....no more plastic surgery for me. tits was enough!
BUT, to be fair, i have aged a lot since i started on here. its a family trait thing. you get older, my face is more defined, thus, making me look older (since i have not really learned the ways of creams and putting on make up correctly. lol XD ) also being a "used to be, never use sunscreen, outdoor loving hippee & lifeguard" that will do it. ...but hey, that group you put me in....you can call me 34 any day of the week! im trying to get my face fuller but unfortunately, skinny runs in the fam. just gotta live with it....no more plastic surgery for me. tits was enough!
There is something to be said in being seasoned. Jayce and Ariel are right now at the top of their game currently, in both content and beauty.
And I feel it had to do with your age, as I just turned 37 on the 14th, so I've noticed I'm starting to gravitate that way.
Lastly, in adult films an average milf age is around 30ish, and some look double than that. But a wam model can be in the same age range and be a stunner, why.
CandyCustard said:
The Daily Mail absolutely hates women no matter what they do and I'm shocked anyone would link to such trash
The study was done by a dating site and is skewed in the way it hasn't offered any degrees of change or comparison
I think some women like your friend are putting the pressure on themselves to do these things - there's plenty of work out there for older women but she herself does not want to classify herself as 'older'
Trying to compete with younger women all the time, comparing yourself to younger women etc rather than embracing and accepting your age seems like a fast track to hating yourself and having even more surgery
Edit to add I know the bias is there with some producers - the aforementioned ones that have boxed themselves in somewhat and it becomes a weird self fulfilling prophecy circle (only using young models, attracting a huge customer base that likes younger models then wondering why the one 40+ model you tried once that time didn't sell) but there are looooads out there who don't limit themselves and have a diverse customer base or a customer base skewed the other way - specifically for older models and tons of work for 30+ 40 + 50+ models
LeilaHazlett said:
I have to highly disagree with models choosing to retire as they get older, in my experience producers just want to hire younger models because they sell better. There has been a good deal of research showing men are most attracted to women in their early 20's.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3243803/Research-shows-men-attracted-women-early-20s-no-matter-old-get.html
A certain model I know who is very popular is much older than she looks because she has gotten a lot of work done. She told me once she lies about her age because she fears she wouldn't get work if people knew her real age despite her youthful appearance. I know successful models who are in their 40's but they look no where near their age. It's pretty common for professional models to start getting cosmetic work before they hit 30 so they can stay competitive.
While the fetish world is a bit different than mainstream modeling overall men are still attracted to younger women with the exception of some guys who are into milf's.
moreslime said:
I've always thought that modelling broadly equates to a sporting career in terms of the ages at which the models start and then stop. And, when they do stop, we of course use the same word - "retire" - as we do with sports professionals. There'll always be a few exceptions, but I'd imagine the numbers drop quite steeply once the model gets much past 30.
Be interesting to see what reasons producers think are behind this. I can think of two possibilities straight away (although I'm sure there are more):
1. The model, again like a sports pro with all the dedication and training, reaches a point where she's just fed up with the various disciplines necessary to stay in shape all the time;
2. The purchasers of any fetish/sexual material largely want the fantasy of young, slim etc, so the models know they won't get as much work if they don't fit that profile anymore and so stop. In short, it's market-driven, as Rich implied.
To be clear, I don't mean any disrespect to models and do have an age range in my own collection, but I'm just saying that unfortunately the market is almost certainly skewed towards 20-somethings and that's the way it is.
In fact, I don't think the two reasons above actually reflect badly on the models themselves; no, I'm afraid it's the male purchasers of fetish material, and especially with the second reason, that they reflect badly on!
jfs said: After watching few mesys vids from producers i began thinking what is the average age for models who do mess? Im speaking about sites which use various models. I figure most in mid 20s some being in 30s
I've always thought that modelling broadly equates to a sporting career in terms of the ages at which the models start and then stop. And, when they do stop, we of course use the same word - "retire" - as we do with sports professionals. There'll always be a few exceptions, but I'd imagine the numbers drop quite steeply once the model gets much past 30.
Be interesting to see what reasons producers think are behind this. I can think of two possibilities straight away (although I'm sure there are more):
1. The model, again like a sports pro with all the dedication and training, reaches a point where she's just fed up with the various disciplines necessary to stay in shape all the time;
2. The purchasers of any fetish/sexual material largely want the fantasy of young, slim etc, so the models know they won't get as much work if they don't fit that profile anymore and so stop. In short, it's market-driven, as Rich implied.
To be clear, I don't mean any disrespect to models and do have an age range in my own collection, but I'm just saying that unfortunately the market is almost certainly skewed towards 20-somethings and that's the way it is.
In fact, I don't think the two reasons above actually reflect badly on the models themselves; no, I'm afraid it's the male purchasers of fetish material, and especially with the second reason, that they reflect badly on!
I have to highly disagree with models choosing to retire as they get older, in my experience producers just want to hire younger models because they sell better. There has been a good deal of research showing men are most attracted to women in their early 20's.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3243803/Research-shows-men-attracted-women-early-20s-no-matter-old-get.html
A certain model I know who is very popular is much older than she looks because she has gotten a lot of work done. She told me once she lies about her age because she fears she wouldn't get work if people knew her real age despite her youthful appearance. I know successful models who are in their 40's but they look no where near their age. It's pretty common for professional models to start getting cosmetic work before they hit 30 so they can stay competitive.
While the fetish world is a bit different than mainstream modeling overall men are still attracted to younger women with the exception of some guys who are into milf's.
The Daily Mail absolutely hates women no matter what they do and I'm shocked anyone would link to such trash
The study was done by a dating site and is skewed in the way it hasn't offered any degrees of change or comparison
I think some women like your friend are putting the pressure on themselves to do these things - there's plenty of work out there for older women but she herself does not want to classify herself as 'older'
Trying to compete with younger women all the time, comparing yourself to younger women etc rather than embracing and accepting your age seems like a fast track to hating yourself and having even more surgery
Edit to add I know the bias is there with some producers - the aforementioned ones that have boxed themselves in somewhat and it becomes a weird self fulfilling prophecy circle (only using young models, attracting a huge customer base that likes younger models then wondering why the one 40+ model you tried once that time didn't sell) but there are looooads out there who don't limit themselves and have a diverse customer base or a customer base skewed the other way - specifically for older models and tons of work for 30+ 40 + 50+ models
If you read though the comments in this thread you will notice a very clear theme. When models on here are admitting telling people their age the general response is "but you don't look that old, you still look great!" If the models on here had crows feet and sagging skin and actually looked 40+ then there would be a more limited audience for them. Sure you can get work as an older model as long as you don't look old. Yes there is a market for older looking women but it is limited.
I don't think it's sexist/bad to say that in general younger looking people are considered more attractive. Everyone saying things like "you aged well" and "you don't look that old" supports the point that a youthful look is valued by most people.
If you guys really don't believe that then I'll hire a make-up artis to make me look older and film myself and see if any of you buy that video...other than regis of course
My girls have ranged from 18 (Bubbles and Dolly) to 28 (Heather).
Dolly was brought along by her mate for a shoot literally ON her 18th which was a bit odd... they were out on the town that night and wanted me to take a load of photos on their phones to show their friends!
(to be honest younger girls can be noticeably annoyingly immature on shoots, but throwing custard over each other is hardly the height of maturity!)
https://wtfdownloads.umd.net/download_info/dollys_birthday_pies
Dolly was brought along by her mate for a shoot literally ON her 18th which was a bit odd... they were out on the town that night and wanted me to take a load of photos on their phones to show their friends!
(to be honest younger girls can be noticeably annoyingly immature on shoots, but throwing custard over each other is hardly the height of maturity!)
https://wtfdownloads.umd.net/download_info/dollys_birthday_pies
Johnny_Yen said: Youth does have its own kind of beauty, but it's not the only kind of beauty.
When I was 22, I had a 35 year old girlfriend (she was a semi-professional belly dancer). She was cool because she was sexually confident and open minded. One of our first dates involved strawberry shortcake smeared on her (very firm, natural) chest. Got us off to a good start.
These days, I'll see a particular woman in her 20's and think that she's very beautiful and appealing, but I KNOW that if I saw that exact same woman when I was in MY 20's I would have hardly noticed her.
When I was 22, I had a 35 year old girlfriend (she was a semi-professional belly dancer). She was cool because she was sexually confident and open minded. One of our first dates involved strawberry shortcake smeared on her (very firm, natural) chest. Got us off to a good start.
These days, I'll see a particular woman in her 20's and think that she's very beautiful and appealing, but I KNOW that if I saw that exact same woman when I was in MY 20's I would have hardly noticed her.
I get this, Johnny. One's appreciation broadens with age and experience - and ought to. I often wonder at the developmental cul-de-sac going on with the ageing lothario who ONLY goes for similar looking 21 year old girls.
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I've been lurking here for a loooooooong time. This thread got me to finally join the discussion.
I don't remember a time when I thought women in their 20s were more attractive than women who were older than that. Even in my early teens I was most attracted to women over 30. Now, as I approach 40, I tend to find women who are in their 40s and 50s to be the most beautiful. That's not to say 20-something women aren't attractive to me, but instead that they will appeal to me more and more as they get older. As others have said it's very much a state-of-mind thing.
I don't remember a time when I thought women in their 20s were more attractive than women who were older than that. Even in my early teens I was most attracted to women over 30. Now, as I approach 40, I tend to find women who are in their 40s and 50s to be the most beautiful. That's not to say 20-something women aren't attractive to me, but instead that they will appeal to me more and more as they get older. As others have said it's very much a state-of-mind thing.
Regis said: Ahhhhh, c'mon, enough with the virtue signaling. You guys all wanna nail 18 year-olds!
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