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"Las Vegas Ice Breaker Thread"
Love you, too
soundguy said: As a nod to the civilians, I will NOT be wearing a Slayer t-shirt and I promise to bathe every day, but I WILL be wearing cargo shorts and no one can stop me!
Me too man, me too. What kind of other shorts are there for men? Also, Vegas is too fucking hot to wear long pants all the time.He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
My name is Gus, & I'm a filmmaker.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. The Vegas event has given me the kick in the pants necessary to start working on it much more seriously.
I'd love to make a film about WAM, & the lives of the people within the community. I've been a member here for more than 5 years, & I'm completely fascinated & enthralled by this fetish. I love the community that has been built here, & I want to learn more, The UMD is 20 years old now, & I have been enjoying it for just a fraction of that time. There are so many fascinating people, producers, models, & fans contained within this niche of ours that deserve a careful, & loving representation on film.
I believe this fetish, the images it creates, & the people who make it all happen are all ripe for cinematic exploration, both for my own personal understanding of myself, as well as highlighting the community in a very caring way for audiences at large.
I have seen a few incomplete & arguably very misguided attempts to feature WAM in a documentary film before, (i.e. the incomplete scope of the feature on Vice a while ago).
(Projects with Maria [MyPieRogative] involved are of course completely fantastic because of her. I just wish they were longer!)
Shame & embarrassment seem to be common feelings when considering sharing this fetish, myself included, & so in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
I would love to interview or follow anyone who is willing. Avoiding faces, & distorting voices is welcome for anyone who may feel reluctant about sharing any trace of their actual voice & image.
Please contact me on here if you're planning to attend, & would like more details about being featured in this project, & please absolutely know you'll be in the hands of a UMD peer who is just as bizarre, sloppy, & beautiful as you are.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. The Vegas event has given me the kick in the pants necessary to start working on it much more seriously.
I'd love to make a film about WAM, & the lives of the people within the community. I've been a member here for more than 5 years, & I'm completely fascinated & enthralled by this fetish. I love the community that has been built here, & I want to learn more, The UMD is 20 years old now, & I have been enjoying it for just a fraction of that time. There are so many fascinating people, producers, models, & fans contained within this niche of ours that deserve a careful, & loving representation on film.
I believe this fetish, the images it creates, & the people who make it all happen are all ripe for cinematic exploration, both for my own personal understanding of myself, as well as highlighting the community in a very caring way for audiences at large.
I have seen a few incomplete & arguably very misguided attempts to feature WAM in a documentary film before, (i.e. the incomplete scope of the feature on Vice a while ago).
(Projects with Maria [MyPieRogative] involved are of course completely fantastic because of her. I just wish they were longer!)
Shame & embarrassment seem to be common feelings when considering sharing this fetish, myself included, & so in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
I would love to interview or follow anyone who is willing. Avoiding faces, & distorting voices is welcome for anyone who may feel reluctant about sharing any trace of their actual voice & image.
Please contact me on here if you're planning to attend, & would like more details about being featured in this project, & please absolutely know you'll be in the hands of a UMD peer who is just as bizarre, sloppy, & beautiful as you are.
Goop is Good.
sadblue said: Hey folks,
Sadblue (or just Blue), here. I would love to be able to attend the Vegas meetup in person but I won't be able to get the vacation time. I chimed in because I was hoping to put together a telecommute option for at least an hour during the meetup where people could jump into a Skype room or something similar and video chat with each other. What would people prefer as the medium? Google Hangouts, Skype, let me know preferences and I'll try to get something organized.
Sadblue (or just Blue), here. I would love to be able to attend the Vegas meetup in person but I won't be able to get the vacation time. I chimed in because I was hoping to put together a telecommute option for at least an hour during the meetup where people could jump into a Skype room or something similar and video chat with each other. What would people prefer as the medium? Google Hangouts, Skype, let me know preferences and I'll try to get something organized.
I also can't make it due to work, but I wouldn't mind a live stream or group chat option. Maybe I can make it to the 25 year...
magic_boy said: My name is Gus, & I'm a filmmaker.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. The Vegas event has given me the kick in the pants necessary to start working on it much more seriously.
I'd love to make a film about WAM, & the lives of the people within the community. I've been a member here for more than 5 years, & I'm completely fascinated & enthralled by this fetish. I love the community that has been built here, & I want to learn more, The UMD is 20 years old now, & I have been enjoying it for just a fraction of that time. There are so many fascinating people, producers, models, & fans contained within this niche of ours that deserve a careful, & loving representation on film.
I believe this fetish, the images it creates, & the people who make it all happen are all ripe for cinematic exploration, both for my own personal understanding of myself, as well as highlighting the community in a very caring way for audiences at large.
I have seen a few incomplete & arguably very misguided attempts to feature WAM in a documentary film before, (i.e. the incomplete scope of the feature on Vice a while ago).
(Projects with Maria [MyPieRogative] involved are of course completely fantastic because of her. I just wish they were longer!)
Shame & embarrassment seem to be common feelings when considering sharing this fetish, myself included, & so in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
I would love to interview or follow anyone who is willing. Avoiding faces, & distorting voices is welcome for anyone who may feel reluctant about sharing any trace of their actual voice & image.
Please contact me on here if you're planning to attend, & would like more details about being featured in this project, & please absolutely know you'll be in the hands of a UMD peer who is just as bizarre, sloppy, & beautiful as you are.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. The Vegas event has given me the kick in the pants necessary to start working on it much more seriously.
I'd love to make a film about WAM, & the lives of the people within the community. I've been a member here for more than 5 years, & I'm completely fascinated & enthralled by this fetish. I love the community that has been built here, & I want to learn more, The UMD is 20 years old now, & I have been enjoying it for just a fraction of that time. There are so many fascinating people, producers, models, & fans contained within this niche of ours that deserve a careful, & loving representation on film.
I believe this fetish, the images it creates, & the people who make it all happen are all ripe for cinematic exploration, both for my own personal understanding of myself, as well as highlighting the community in a very caring way for audiences at large.
I have seen a few incomplete & arguably very misguided attempts to feature WAM in a documentary film before, (i.e. the incomplete scope of the feature on Vice a while ago).
(Projects with Maria [MyPieRogative] involved are of course completely fantastic because of her. I just wish they were longer!)
Shame & embarrassment seem to be common feelings when considering sharing this fetish, myself included, & so in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
I would love to interview or follow anyone who is willing. Avoiding faces, & distorting voices is welcome for anyone who may feel reluctant about sharing any trace of their actual voice & image.
Please contact me on here if you're planning to attend, & would like more details about being featured in this project, & please absolutely know you'll be in the hands of a UMD peer who is just as bizarre, sloppy, & beautiful as you are.
Haha that longer project with the professional documentary maker is still happening! We've been filming for 2 years now, meeting up randomly when our paths cross. She's saying it will probably be another 5 years before it's done because she wants to see where I end up. Ha! At this rate the final footage will be in my back yard barefoot and pregnant in my garden with my chickens wondering around me
Saturation Hall, Langstonedale
Lord of the Pies
I'm Jack, I just turned 50 in November - to be honest that's what spurred me to come to the meet, Vegas is somewhere I've thought "really should visit one of these days" since I was like 8 and ABBA's "Money Money Money" was dominating the charts, and I've kind of realised as I get older it's now or never. My day job is as an IT consultant running hypervisors and virtual machines here in Yorkshire, and sysdamining an ISP and public phone system, I'm a Goth, I look after a bus to a huge music festival in Germany every year (which is where I first met Friday back in 2012), have been a club DJ, promoted gigs, and and done tour-van driving in the UK and across Europe. I love driving and exploring, and railways too. I've been here on the UMD since it started, been into fully clothed WAM since forever. And as long-term readers may have noted, I really like women in boilersuits. 
As well as the meetups, planning to visit the Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam, and a few other "drive there" places outside the city. Might even drive (or fly) through to California just to see the Pacific Ocean.
Note: One thing Friday and I won't be doing while we're in the US is any shoots, either for ourselves or for anyone else. I gather the US authorities take a dim view of tourists doing anything that could be construed as "work" and their definition is pretty broad, so don't want to take any chances on either not being allowed in, or not being allowed back in future. Does mean more time to hang out, drink, and party though!
As well as the meetups, planning to visit the Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam, and a few other "drive there" places outside the city. Might even drive (or fly) through to California just to see the Pacific Ocean.
Note: One thing Friday and I won't be doing while we're in the US is any shoots, either for ourselves or for anyone else. I gather the US authorities take a dim view of tourists doing anything that could be construed as "work" and their definition is pretty broad, so don't want to take any chances on either not being allowed in, or not being allowed back in future. Does mean more time to hang out, drink, and party though!
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
Hey guys! Many of you know me as MB or Mudbunny - my name is Mary. I can't say how excited I am to be attending the UMD Vegas trip! It will be a real treat to meet fellow wammers such as myself <3 Who am I? Well I am a 27 year old entrepreneurial-bad-ass-robot-stomping-bunny who loves pastel kawaii, pancakes and bubbles.
Why so AFK u ask?
Last summer Tyson started a new company and I have been employed as their support director, so you can say that the hours have been long and the sleep has been little. Sorry that life has been so crazy and we have fallen out of touch. We will reply when we can and we are super excited to take a time out and meet everyone.
Noob (Tyson, 30) here. As Mary has mentioned above we have been playing in the startup game. I have been on UMD for years. I have made alot of videos, have taken lots of photos - It will be interesting to meet some of you guys.
Why so AFK u ask?
Last summer Tyson started a new company and I have been employed as their support director, so you can say that the hours have been long and the sleep has been little. Sorry that life has been so crazy and we have fallen out of touch. We will reply when we can and we are super excited to take a time out and meet everyone.
Noob (Tyson, 30) here. As Mary has mentioned above we have been playing in the startup game. I have been on UMD for years. I have made alot of videos, have taken lots of photos - It will be interesting to meet some of you guys.
Hey, can everybody who plans to come please RSVP over on the event page? I think some more people are coming who aren't on the list yet.
Thanks guys!
MM
Thanks guys!
MM
Stay messy, my friends
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RobbyWLP said:
I believe that can be accomplished by just mentioning your name. I'm just worried if they say it 3 times in a row...you might magically appear.
Regis said: Hi, I'm Regis. I'm 39, and my mom won't let me go to Vegas with you guys.
Any chance somebody could creep out Amy and Vika for me and post some pics?
Any chance somebody could creep out Amy and Vika for me and post some pics?
I believe that can be accomplished by just mentioning your name. I'm just worried if they say it 3 times in a row...you might magically appear.
That sounds like it could solve my problems of sneaking past Mom's bedroom and swiping the keys to the van! Somebody try it.
RegisJuice! RegisJuice! RegisJuice!.......
bugger... didn't work....
bugger... didn't work....
MessFunGuy said: RegisJuice! RegisJuice! RegisJuice!.......
bugger... didn't work....
bugger... didn't work....
UMD has a policy against bodily fluids, and the last thing we need here is Regis' juice...
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
Well wowza..:: looks like Becky is sending a camera person to follow me for 2 days of this. No worries though, anyone that doesn't want to be on camera you just say so and that's that. Becky came to London Splosh games and everyone from that can attest to the fact she's super respectful and chill and no one is pressured at all. Well... except for me who funny enough, actually hates being on camera. Ha! Please if anyone has any thoughts or concerns or anything at all reach out to me about it! 
magic_boy said: My name is Gus, & I'm a filmmaker.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. ... in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. ... in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
MyPieRogative said: Haha that longer project with the professional documentary maker is still happening!
I think it's awesome that we've come far enough to attract documentarians who want to explore wam and its people. I support the projects and I'm happy that the producers were professional enough to contact me beforehand when they didn't have to.
Despite their assurances though, their mere presence does conjure fears of accidentally ending up on camera, and I think it can have a chilling effect on the party. Most of us are still in the wam closet and it's taken a lot for some to even decide to come to this gathering. I don't want anybody staying home because they think they'll be outed.
I am asking any filmmakers to not attend the main meet and greet at all, and to get prior written agreements from everybody who would be on film, even in the background. The UMD is not affiliated with any documentaries, as I am only there for vacation. I have no pull over what anyone does, but I hope for any recording to be thoughtfully compartmentalized and done at times where we're not the least bit intimidated to party and be ourselves.
I already know the filmmakers will assure us of this, but I think the position needs to be publicly stated.
Thanks!
Messmaster
P.S. Everybody coming to Vegas: Please RSVP. Also, inbox me if you're coming to the pool party on Friday!
Stay messy, my friends
11/17/25, 2:06pm: No-bump reply
Messmaster said:
I think it's awesome that we've come far enough to attract documentarians who want to explore wam and its people. I support the projects and I'm happy that the producers were professional enough to contact me beforehand when they didn't have to.
Despite their assurances though, their mere presence does conjure fears of accidentally ending up on camera, and I think it can have a chilling effect on the party. Most of us are still in the wam closet and it's taken a lot for some to even decide to come to this gathering. I don't want anybody staying home because they think they'll be outed.
I am asking any filmmakers to not attend the main meet and greet at all, and to get prior written agreements from everybody who would be on film, even in the background. The UMD is not affiliated with any documentaries, as I am only there for vacation. I have no pull over what anyone does, but I hope for any recording to be thoughtfully compartmentalized and done at times where we're not the least bit intimidated to party and be ourselves.
I already know the filmmakers will assure us of this, but I think the position needs to be publicly stated.
Thanks!
Messmaster
P.S. Everybody coming to Vegas: Please RSVP. Also, inbox me if you're coming to the pool party on Friday!
magic_boy said: My name is Gus, & I'm a filmmaker.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. ... in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
I've been thinking of making a documentary about this community for many years. ... in the interest of building trust, I've been contacting people that I'd love to interview using my real name.
I am planning to attend the Vegas meet-up, hopefully, to work on this project, & certainly to meet my fellow lovers of this niche. Having so many of us in one place seems too good to be true for such a venture, so I must give it a try.
MyPieRogative said: Haha that longer project with the professional documentary maker is still happening!
I think it's awesome that we've come far enough to attract documentarians who want to explore wam and its people. I support the projects and I'm happy that the producers were professional enough to contact me beforehand when they didn't have to.
Despite their assurances though, their mere presence does conjure fears of accidentally ending up on camera, and I think it can have a chilling effect on the party. Most of us are still in the wam closet and it's taken a lot for some to even decide to come to this gathering. I don't want anybody staying home because they think they'll be outed.
I am asking any filmmakers to not attend the main meet and greet at all, and to get prior written agreements from everybody who would be on film, even in the background. The UMD is not affiliated with any documentaries, as I am only there for vacation. I have no pull over what anyone does, but I hope for any recording to be thoughtfully compartmentalized and done at times where we're not the least bit intimidated to party and be ourselves.
I already know the filmmakers will assure us of this, but I think the position needs to be publicly stated.
Thanks!
Messmaster
P.S. Everybody coming to Vegas: Please RSVP. Also, inbox me if you're coming to the pool party on Friday!
We will be filming our pie booth event and the private party Amy and Vika session. The pie booth will be focused on the girls getting pied and we will not film the faces of those participating. If by chance anyone is filmed by accident, we will blur them out. Also feel free to wear sun glasses if you prefer. The Amy and Vika session will be filmed with the party goers behind the camera. So no one will be in view while filming.
The WAM Trendsetter Since 1997
Messygirl said:
We will be filming our pie booth event and the private party Amy and Vika session. The pie booth will be focused on the girls getting pied and we will not film the faces of those participating.
We will be filming our pie booth event and the private party Amy and Vika session. The pie booth will be focused on the girls getting pied and we will not film the faces of those participating.
Yeah your stuff is in the hotel room and it's all private. I do believe that's pretty much the main m.o. of the filmmakers as well. I re-read what I wrote and I think it did come across as being against them, but actually I support their efforts. I can't wait to meet them, and I don't mind UMD's name being used or whatever. I just don't want any "official" business spoiling the party
Peace,
Messmaster
Stay messy, my friends
trying to figure out what my best option is for travel. i live only 4 hours away so driving isnt an issue but if anyone traveling from SOCAL and passing through the palm desert area and wants to carpool or what ever works best for people let me know!!!
Don't you threaten me with a good time!
Messmaster said:
Yeah your stuff is in the hotel room and it's all private. I do believe that's pretty much the main m.o. of the filmmakers as well. I re-read what I wrote and I think it did come across as being against them, but actually I support their efforts. I can't wait to meet them, and I don't mind UMD's name being used or whatever. I just don't want any "official" business spoiling the party
Peace,
Messmaster
Messygirl said:
We will be filming our pie booth event and the private party Amy and Vika session. The pie booth will be focused on the girls getting pied and we will not film the faces of those participating.
We will be filming our pie booth event and the private party Amy and Vika session. The pie booth will be focused on the girls getting pied and we will not film the faces of those participating.
Yeah your stuff is in the hotel room and it's all private. I do believe that's pretty much the main m.o. of the filmmakers as well. I re-read what I wrote and I think it did come across as being against them, but actually I support their efforts. I can't wait to meet them, and I don't mind UMD's name being used or whatever. I just don't want any "official" business spoiling the party
Peace,
Messmaster
Didn't come across that way to me. Sounded like you had the best interest, privacy, and protection of your members as your paramount concern. Also, that this was your vacation, and not some official event and that you weren't prepared for legal/business ramifications appearing in the doc (which is understandable).
I just can't wait to get out of shit crap Philly weather. 85 on Saturday, and then 41 and rain for the Cherry Blossom Festival...what a bust. At least the trees were in bloom, which made for a nice little birthday outing.
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
Like Sadblue, I can't make Vegas, (family vacation week before Memorial Day, other family obligations and commitments going on right now, plus things a little tight financially) but hope to live vicariously through the postings of those who will be there. I had a great time meeting folks from the Philly area a couple of years ago, as well as Maria, who is from everywhere, and would loved to have met more folks from the community.
As for me, I'm a married, bisexual 51 year old working in finance outside Philly. The Mrs. tried wet clothing as an indulgence for me a few times, but found it to be an absolute turn off. Play involves clothing of either gender, generally casual, either swimming or some food in the tub. Favorite substances are eggs, syrup, and pudding pies.
Have fun all!
As for me, I'm a married, bisexual 51 year old working in finance outside Philly. The Mrs. tried wet clothing as an indulgence for me a few times, but found it to be an absolute turn off. Play involves clothing of either gender, generally casual, either swimming or some food in the tub. Favorite substances are eggs, syrup, and pudding pies.
Have fun all!
steve said:I had a great time meeting folks from the Philly area a couple of years ago
Good to hear from you Steve. Sad you can't make it, but I'm sure we'll do something local in 2018 as well.
Stay messy, my friends
Greetings All, sorry I'm a little late to the thread but going to school and working have monopolized all of my time (well a good 100 hours a week). I'm Ralph and WAM has been a personal passion of mine for as long as I can remember and I can't wait to meet so many awesome people.
Can't wait to see some of you crazy fools in La Veg I'll be able to join in on the party for a day, and hope to put a few screen names to faces.
Quick question - I know some of us will be session-ing in the hotel rooms. How the hell are we getting rid of all the trash and tarps? A big trash bag with a $10 tip for housekeeping on top? Haha
Quick question - I know some of us will be session-ing in the hotel rooms. How the hell are we getting rid of all the trash and tarps? A big trash bag with a $10 tip for housekeeping on top? Haha
ArchNemesis said: Can't wait to see some of you crazy fools in La Veg I'll be able to join in on the party for a day, and hope to put a few screen names to faces.
Quick question - I know some of us will be session-ing in the hotel rooms. How the hell are we getting rid of all the trash and tarps? A big trash bag with a $10 tip for housekeeping on top? Haha
Quick question - I know some of us will be session-ing in the hotel rooms. How the hell are we getting rid of all the trash and tarps? A big trash bag with a $10 tip for housekeeping on top? Haha
See you on freaky Fremont. I don't know about you, but our cleanup is easy.... we're only bringing jugs of Nuru gel. Tons of extra towels from housekeeping should work!
M
Stay messy, my friends
Sploshman said: Ticket is booked and looking forward to coming over and meeting you guys a lot!!.
Will drop a little bit more info about myself later
Will drop a little bit more info about myself later
Hi I'm Row in my late 30's and I'm from North London.
Been on the UMD since 1999 but been into WAM since I was a kid.
Just didn't know there was a name for it and that there were people like me out there that were into it as well (which made me feel that I was alone in enjoying this).
I have done quite a few studio sessions with Splosh A Girl (Kate, Honey B, Mouse, Scarlett, Karen Wood) Splosh (Gilly Sampson), Carwam (when they were about), Kacie James and Molly (my most recent sessions), Gungetank Girls to name a few.
This will be my first time in Vegas and I'm looking forward to it and also to meetup with the rest of the guys and ladies there (some I've been talking to for nearly 20 years on here now
)
David here! British guy living in Los Angeles. I set up the (now defunct) messymaddy.com website, which was one of the first to combine the messy fetish with xxx, together with MessTheBoss Looking forward to meeting some of the people whose work I have long enjoyed
Looking forward to meeting some of the people whose work I have long enjoyed Sploshman said:
Hi I'm Row in my late 30's and I'm from North London... Been on the UMD since 1999 but been into WAM since I was a kid... This will be my first time in Vegas and I'm looking forward to it and also to meetup with the rest of the guys and ladies there (some I've been talking to for nearly 20 years on here now )
Hi I'm Row in my late 30's and I'm from North London... Been on the UMD since 1999 but been into WAM since I was a kid... This will be my first time in Vegas and I'm looking forward to it and also to meetup with the rest of the guys and ladies there (some I've been talking to for nearly 20 years on here now
) piesplatter said: David here! British guy living in Los Angeles. I set up the (now defunct) messymaddy.com website...Looking forward to meeting some of the people whose work I have long enjoyed
Thanks for being on for so long guys, and thanks for coming! We've spent half our lives doing this huh? And now we'll finally get to shake hands. Can't wait to meet you.
Messmaster
Stay messy, my friends
Haha. My user ID number is 149. I guess that means I've been here a while.
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