I don't want to get flagged for this question, so please forgive me if it's offensive, but this situation has come up numerous times after a shoot, and I would be interested in the feedback. After the girls are totally covered from a shoot and go into the shower, a few have asked if they can pee in the shower, since they can't hold it, and because I don't want a messy ass print on the toilet seat. Anyway, they also asked if I want to film it. So the question is, does anyone want to see a Messygirl covered in mess standing there and peeing?

Personally I have no interest in it. Also, the UMD states it isn't the place for 'bodily fluids'. So I don't know if this is a good idea. Some will probably want to see it though, as wam has a lot of cross-over fetish enthusiasts.

I think it is a very fair and honest question though.

While it does it for some people and not for others there's a no pee rule here

I never go pee while on the UMD for that very reason.

So is a guy ejaculating on a girls pied face classified as a bodily fluid? Seen it and we actually have done it for Messygirlblowjobs.com.

Also a girl like Candle Boxx who can squirt like a fountain...that is a bodily fluid, right?

It's not no body fluids in general, saliva is allowed. If you look at the rules on your "add scene" page it says

Regardless of how you handle this I think you want to avoid people like me. Anything like that and the model, producer, are tainted to me and aren't likely to be revisited. Doing it will cost you some customers. You have to ask if it's worth that.

While you wouldn't be able to post those pictures here (although I can name at least one video for sell in the umd stores that shows that), there are some that would like to see that. Personally, I WOULD like to see that.

I also find it interesting that after how large of clean up jobs you have to deal with, the place where you draw the line is no mess on the toilet seat.

Doesn't do anything for me personally, but it doesn't put me off either.

Sounds like a new site??!!!???

100% on board for this

and i'm not really a "pee guy"

but your ladies are lovely and especially if they're doing it not just to make a Pee Video, per se, go for it says me.

JY

I don't know how long the shoots are, but isn't there a "use the bathroom before we shoot" opportunity?

To meet both the rules and potential interest, perhaps you could film it, include the information in the video description, but not post any pictures here. Some people who post personal pictures, but don't include face shots for privacy let people know they'll provide face shots to people they actually correspond to in here, perhaps you could do the same with the pee shots?

BTW, personally I wouldn't be interested unless the model was still fully clothed...kind of a cleaning the clothes from the inside.

off camera i dont care where they pee- i mean ive done it in the the shower and i'll call anyone who says they haven't a liar. On camera- i wont want those vids but then i'm not intereseted in the clean up anyway.

BUT how fancy is your toilet? and arn't all toilets seats designed to be wipe clean... can we see your toilet? Is it white? can we see some one wearing white socks, a wrist watch and pig tails get messy on it?

I would vote NOT to have pee. That's golden showers and water sports and it's an entirely different fetish, which links to scat.

Having WAM videos mixed with that... especially when I am explaining to vanilla chicks, is also not very helpful. Would really NOT want new people to think WAM = pee/poop.

Ejaculation is different. That's a normal thing...

LMAO... calling anything NORMAL in a community that centers around an uncommon form of sexuality strikes me as most amusing. Also... if you wanna break it down to a biological level, then yes, an internal cumshot scene (can't call it a cream pie as that has a different meaning in these parts haha) would be a "normal thing" but there is no inherent biological imperative to a facial cumshot.

Virtually every ecommerce system's TOS is a copy & paste of Visa/MC rules (and of the two, MC is the primary "uptight little bitch" about things). The actual rules get stretched by a lot of systems who want to stay far away from the edge of permissibility, but the baseline is

No peeing ON someone else. No drinking of urine.

On your sites, that's totes up to you. But I doubt MM will let you advertise them here. For instance MM advertises a bunch of sites for Eromaxx/Tainster/SinDrive/whatever the hell else they call themselves now. Some of those sites SPECIFICALLY revolve around urine. And, if you'll take notice, there's nothing to be found of them around here.

I think it's totally an ok question to ask to gauge interest (even here), but won't be hosted here. If you don't hear from MM by Monday here, I'd inbox him.

Edit: You would probably have more success with FetLife for this maybe?

Peeing in the shower does not do anything for me but I appreciate that there are some that it does. Now peeing in clothing, there is just something about it. Maybe it falls under the whole ruining the clothing thing for me.

That could be pretty hot; as long as it's a natural need, and just randomly peeing in a bowl, like Penthouse does.

Mr MG, I can assure you that there is demand for this. For everybody, hopefully I can clarify where this site stands.

Wam mixes with other fetishes all the time. Spitting isn't wam, and neither are high heels. But they both get combined with wam, just like a ton of other fetishes do, and that's okay.

For this reason, we do allow links and ads to sites that combine wam with other fetishes, even pee. Hey, if that's your thang... (I do draw the line at shitting though. No shitting. :miserable

That said, we don't host that stuff here because, like Soundguy said, the billers don't allow it. Plus I need this site to be pure in its representation of wam because newer people may not understand the difference. And people post what they see already posted.

Messmaster

That's the difference between a guy and a girl. A guy would just pee in the shower and no one would ever know.

Also not offensive at all to ask about pee, but personally no interest in seeing it for me. As for cum, I cum on my wife's face all the time, so I don't mind seeing it/having it discussed here.

Yeah, but like the other fellow said, ejaculation is normal, cumshot all over someone's face isn't...outside of porn.

Thanks for all the feedback. Really, the only reason I asked this was because the girls offered this visual opportunity. Just in case you were wondering who the girls are, it was Amy, Lane, Penelope and Amber. Crazy Lane actually took it a step further and said she pissed during a shoot, but didn't say anything until afterwards. I didn't believe her, because she liked to mess with me, but I wouldn't put it past her.

No thanks. Not my thing.

Ew!
Dude, if you let them girls take a wee in the shower? No way I'll film with you again if I have to get cleaned up in a dang peepee shower! Totally killed my boner, lol!

Bee

I wouldn't have a problem with it >.>

Yeah, I think it's a good discussion to have because of what JaMC said, which I agree with.

If anyone likes watersports and or scat, then that's your thing, and that's ok. There is definitely a market for it out there. I've come across some WAM models that do piss stuff out side of here. Some models market themselves successfully across multiple platforms with different sites.

But the difference is that they are the performer, not the brand holder. So what some others have said about it affecting your market could be true as well.

Like any investment there is risk. On one side, you run the risk of turning off established customer. On the other, you may gain new customers. It's good to consider the options, and you should own your decision.

I think the risk factor is much higher for a producer selling content than the model selling content.

I dunno though, Tainster has done it, and I've joined their sites and just steered clear of the pee and other things I didn't like. Having it as separate sites also allows them to have certain ones advertised here, while leaving the others out. So there is something to be said about just having a separate site for it.

Well, for the models sake, just give them a quick shower pee break and edit that bit out...or edit a few minutes of them together and offer them up outside of UMD for anyone into that. Easy...peesy.

Mr MG, whilst I am a fan of most Messy Girl videos, I'm afraid I have no interest in girls pissing.