General answer that applies to 98% of ALL models in question:
They left because they stopped modeling, for either the common reasons (got married, had kids, started a "real" job, began dating a jealous guy) or the WAM-specific ones (producer behaved inappropriately during a shoot, community members stalked & contacted them via their IRL profiles, family/job/society pressure).
They are all currently doing something today that doesn't concern us, because they are no longer a part of the WAM community (if they ever were). *
* I do realize I'm guilty of occasionally updating you guys about what former SS models are doing now, but I throw out that info sparingly and without posting any actual links or--Heaven forbid--reposting current pics from their social media on here.
This came up the other day in relation to Angelfan's famed Art Student, Vanessa. Here's hoping she's making a living in the arts world somewhere, somehow.
The main one I wonder about is Rena, the redheaded rocker from Pie Zone's "The Green Room 2". She only did that one scene (as far as I'm aware) but she left an impression on me enough that I'm wondering what she's up to now, what her band was called and if she's in one now.
SlapstickStuff said: General answer that applies to 98% of ALL models in question:
They are all currently doing something today that doesn't concern us.
^^^^ This.
I know people like to fondly remember past glories, but the fact is the vast majority of gone models have gone because they've moved on with their lives, and it really isn't fair for people to constantly try and recall former models, or worse post pics or links, for several reasons, including that some former models could face career ruin, having their kids bullied, or worse, if they were to be outed as having once been fetish models. Plus endless reminiscence can drive interest in pirate videos which a) the models in question might want to remain buried in the past and b) harms sales of material from current, active models.
Definitely Naomi K. She was always a favorite. I wish she would've had a longer career in the "HD" era. She had a LOT of great stuff but I think so much of it was shot in the 480-720p era. Would've loved to have seen more HD Naomi. I like to imagine now she's settled down with a nice family.
Also the lovely Amber that started posting here years ago. I don't remember who she shot with, but her husband or boyfriend started posting her pictures here and she eventually wound up shooting with a producer.
SlapstickStuff said: General answer that applies to 98% of ALL models in question:
They are all currently doing something today that doesn't concern us.
^^^^ This.
I know people like to fondly remember past glories, but the fact is the vast majority of gone models have gone because they've moved on with their lives, and it really isn't fair for people to constantly try and recall former models, or worse post pics or links, for several reasons, including that some former models could face career ruin, having their kids bullied, or worse, if they were to be outed as having once been fetish models. Plus endless reminiscence can drive interest in pirate videos which a) the models in question might want to remain buried in the past and b) harms sales of material from current, active models.
By far my favorite response to this. Yeah I am absolutely guilty of wondering what happened to models whose work I liked. As much as society progresses in some things we go further back in others. Facial recognition software in some scary shit. Especially with all the trends that pop up on various platforms where people are "challenged" to show pictures of their younger selves. It is surprisingly easy to match that stuff up. With the harm that can be done by stalkers and other assholes, I am surprised that MM and producers are not flooded with take down requests. Yeah I know that the model signed away the rights to that stuff and all they can do is make a request and hope for the best.
dalamar666 said: Yeah I am absolutely guilty of wondering what happened to models whose work I liked.
Don't feel guilty about it. There are a lot of people who have a curiosity that isn't malicious. And having that curiosity isn't a bad thing. But not talking about or not posting about what so and so is doing now is generally the high road for all the reasons that Rich and DM1 laid out.
We're not hard to find. If a model did ever want to interact, or indirectly pass along a message through a producer they worked with, etc. They have the avenues to do so.
juliesboy said: This came up the other day in relation to Angelfan's famed Art Student, Vanessa. Here's hoping she's making a living in the arts world somewhere, somehow.
LOL! Based on the pics I've seen of her showing her tits all tied up in a chair with duck tape over her mouth, I would say, very unlikely!!!
juliesboy said: ...in relation to Angelfan's famed Art Student, Vanessa. Here's hoping she's making a living in the arts world somewhere, somehow.
LOL! Based on the pics I've seen of her showing her tits all tied up in a chair with duck tape over her mouth, I would say, very unlikely!!!
This has me scratching my head and hoping I've misunderstood Mr. Pies' comment. But it sounds like you're saying that, because she has modeled in some fetish videos, it's unlikely she could currently have a job in the arts world. Is that what you're implying?
And there's no need to point out that you're "just joking," since you have the "LOL" and the smiley emojis. I'd just love to know if that's the underlying implication, or if I've misunderstood.
By the time I started earning money, discovered umd and other messy download stores, developed taste for my favourite models, learnt that I can purchase scenes and even request custom scenes, have courage to ask producers for the custom, these models had vanished/retired.....I always get frustrated by this thought.....I would have requested tons of custom videos from these models and producers and emptied my wallet, but............life is so unfair...sigh... But I am still hopeful that someday my dream/wish will become true....
I also do not understand the fact that why some producers shot just few scenes with these models, when it was known that these scenes would sell in great volumes.....
I've had some idle curiosity about certain models over the years. I've just never followed up on any of it. Yes, I absolutely would love to hear whatever happened to Alyssa from Anglefan (the redhead in my profile pic), Chase from Messyfun, Sabrina from Messygirl, etc.
But it's just that. Idle curiosity. I see no reason to track them down and find out. There would be no point in it, other than to just add an epilogue to an already closed book. That's my opinion, anyway.
Would never try to contact a current model outside of UMD.. Even less a former model. However, I'm with many comments here that I miss some of them and yea a part of me is simply curious, so I would read life update that could pop here and that would be enough for the sake of my curiosity. I think the model I miss the most is Mostwam Charlotte.. because she had some interaction on the forum here, was funny, gorgeous and was providing a model POV from the mostwam world. I really liked her host role and feel that position was a gateway to mostwam that I miss.. hoping that the role gets fulfilled again.
SlapstickStuff said: General answer that applies to 98% of ALL models in question:
They are all currently doing something today that doesn't concern us.
^^^^ This.
I know people like to fondly remember past glories, but the fact is the vast majority of gone models have gone because they've moved on with their lives, and it really isn't fair for people to constantly try and recall former models, or worse post pics or links, for several reasons, including that some former models could face career ruin, having their kids bullied, or worse, if they were to be outed as having once been fetish models. Plus endless reminiscence can drive interest in pirate videos which a) the models in question might want to remain buried in the past and b) harms sales of material from current, active models.
Yeah I agree but at the same time you can't expect to show your face on the internet and expect it to go away. There's videos shared of sorts on the deep dark web of the most mildest wam on porn sites. Unfortunately people will always share. If there not on here it's other millions of web pages.
I'm not disagreeing with your comment I'm just stating the reality of it.
you might be surprised by how many people do manage to all but erase from the web
and I also guess there is a little difference between old footage resurfacing (which of course in many cases uploaders do not have rights to distribute - this includes a lot of old photos)
But I think even then there is still a difference on what often comes across like tracking down
Whatever happened to... They left the industry or Decided they no longer wanted to publish splosh material
honestly; the amount of ladies I speak to who ended up having a dislike for sharing private splosh stuff - because of a lot of creepy guys, you can understand why people don't want others to know what they're now up to
pie_sandwich_fan said: I also do not understand the fact that why some producers shot just few scenes with these models, when it was known that these scenes would sell in great volumes.....
I'm not a producer, but a couple of thoughts on that:
a) The producers didn't know in advance which scenes/models would be popular. E.g. SlapstickStuff has mentioned a few times that Shelley's videos didn't sell as well as he'd hoped.
b) It depends when a model's available. E.g. she might only be in town for a couple of weeks before flying out to a different state.
As a non-WAM example, I read George Takei's autobiography ("To The Stars") a while back. It's worth reading, particularly for the early chapters about being put in an internment camp as a child.
In the 1960s, when he was acting in Star Trek and earning decent money, he saw his friends going out and buying sports car. However, his parents insisted that he should invest his money (in case acting work dried up), so he got involved with property management. He started small, then gradually upgraded his portfolio to better buildings (e.g. blocks of flats). He also got involved in local politics later on, but gave that up because he was concerned that any unpopular political choices might affect his popularity as an actor.
I think that's mildly interesting in terms of financial planning, but it doesn't really have anything to do with Star Trek. If you look at IMDB pages for actors who've only been in a couple of films, you'll often see similar things in their bio, e.g. "Jane Doe is now working as a curator in an art gallery".
So, I can understand being curious, but realistically the answer wouldn't be satisfying. It might even be better to cling to the illusion that they live a life of mess, rather than learning the mundane reality.