ANCANC said: For it to work I think you would need to warn members that the scene is non nude each time. You could just create a link on the home page though to the non nude videos like you do with the Wetlook. If making non nude videos reduced the number of nude videos made I personally would be less likely to join but I'm probably in the minority. I think you should go more hardcore, I love your videos but I would love to see more intimate angles and sex but again I'm probably in the minority.
Not to worry, we will not cut back our nude shoots, if anything, we will be doing more shoots with the addition of the non-nude ones.
Nollvane said: I'm sure whatever you come up with will be great. I like a mixture of clothed and nude, especially if the clothes are nice and get really trashed.
I'm kinda with Nollvane on this one. Sometimes non-nude (either fully clothed or down to underwear/bikinis) is good. As they say, variety is the spice of life
On the subject of clothes,
Messygirl said:
DungeonMasterOne said: By non-nude, do you mean actually fully clothed (i.e. wearing something they'd wear in a city street, or to the opera), or just "non nude" as in bikinis or the like?
Our plan with the non nude shoots would have them go from fully clothed and end up in their panties and bra, with the occasional garter and stockings, kind of like how the girls in the Benny Hill skits end up. We will get them messy both full clothed and in their skivvies. We will also have them start out in bikinis in other shoots as well.
Sounds perfect maybe the occasional corset/bustier/whateveryoucallthem thrown into the mix as well.
One last comment: the occasional all white outfit messed up with stuff that ruins it beyond rescue would be cool as well. maybe something for a multigirl set?
DungeonMasterOne said: By non-nude, do you mean actually fully clothed (i.e. wearing something they'd wear in a city street, or to the opera), or just "non nude" as in bikinis or the like?
Our plan with the non nude shoots would have them go from fully clothed and end up in their panties and bra, with the occasional garter and stockings, kind of like how the girls in the Benny Hill skits end up. We will get them messy both full clothed and in their skivvies. We will also have them start out in bikinis in other shoots as well.
IMO, if you're doing that you might as well "go all the way" and make them nude.
I'm just pulling numbers out of my ass, but it seems like there is about 30% of wammers who have no interest in the nudity/sexualized side of things. Whether that be girls going toppless and running the gambit all the way to messy blowjobs and other strongly sexualized situations.
I come from that slight minority which has no interest in sexualized situations with WAM, for people like myself, I'd rather it focus on the playful humiliation of a deserving and attractive target. If you're going the garter and stockings route, no problem, it's not a deal breaker for me, I'd just be sure to do it in the same vein as they did it with Benny Hill. On that show, while it was sexy for the viewers, the women never made attempt to act that way and reacted comically and in feigned shock.
Hopefully you go after that market. I think there are plenty of producers who do the more graphic thing and at least as I see it, not enough who play to the simpler, softer, more comic approach. I would love it if you make some good stuff and got rewarded with solid sales for the effort.
Personally, I would love to see stuff with Lane that's this way. I usually avoid ordering from MG, simply b/c going nude or scenes being sexualized just aren't my bag, but I've seen her pictures and even ordered a video here and there with her and I think she's got decent acting chops (enough to pull of a "bitchy" type worthy of being brought down a peg or two) and is great looking.
I've always been a great admirer of MG's pies and mess and only avoided purchasing more videos b/c of the nature of the videos typically being too extreme/grahpic/whatever.
I should add that if this move leads to more messy underwear/lingerie, I will be doubly on board with it. I have no problem with nudity, but sometimes I like to linger on the silk and lace getting covered, and a lot of nude scenes rush to full nudity so quickly that it's hardly worth it.
And as I mentioned in my answer to MG's other question on WAM preferences, I like the theatrical Benny Hill-style slapstick, so scenes in that vein with your current level of production would probably appeal to me even if the models don't get naked.
DungeonMasterOne said: By non-nude, do you mean actually fully clothed (i.e. wearing something they'd wear in a city street, or to the opera), or just "non nude" as in bikinis or the like?
Our plan with the non nude shoots would have them go from fully clothed and end up in their panties and bra, with the occasional garter and stockings, kind of like how the girls in the Benny Hill skits end up. We will get them messy both full clothed and in their skivvies. We will also have them start out in bikinis in other shoots as well.
That sounds just fine to me, one of my biggest "complaints" is how early most of your girls get naked.
Excellent idea! Non mude sometimes is best. Amost nude is always so great. I believe in Messy Girl Style, and i will be happy to become a member again. Please, do it
I would love to see your style of mess used on clothed ladies!
While I enjoy messy nudity, I LOVE messy clothes! From dresses, skirts and tops, and casual clothes, down to lingerie, messy clothing is part of the visual fun for me.
Whether it's slapstick fun, or humiliating bondage and ballgags, the messy clothes make it that much better!
As someone else said, I'd LOVE to see a lovely lady in her undies, handcuffed and gagged, and treated to the patented MessyGirl mess and mayhem!
In your sets that start off clothed and go to nude, I'd love to see the clothes stay on a little longer and get messier! :devil:
I've been hesitant to jump in on MG for a while now due to the expectation that nearly all the videos either start nude or quickly jump straight to nudity. It leaves little to the imagination and diminishes the overall appeal of the mess because it's looks much easier to clean off. Part of the initial appeal in earlier videos is how common it was to see clothing being ruined alongside a model's body for huge majority of the video as they slowly strip down to at least a bikini bottom or panties towards the end. I'm even content with scenes where they start out topless and end up nude as long as they stay topless long enough to see their only piece of garment being thoroughly covered in the mess. I wouldn't even mind if they only go as far as a bikini/underwear top and bottom.
Disappointingly a lot of newer videos also have models that seem to be well-dressed but reveal not to be wearing underwear underneath when they strip. It just kills it for me because it's unbelievable and clearly caters to a certain audience. Topless/non-nude models seems to be ideal for fully-dressed mess scenes with stripping, and I would love to see more of those in the future.
So yeah, we need more Lexi's and Allison's at least.
I'm much more into the scene and actual 'hits' than anything so as long as the girls are beautiful, there is a plot, and they get destroyed with pies and cakes, I'll buy it. Cheers! KK
Nollvane said: I'm sure whatever you come up with will be great. I like a mixture of clothed and nude, especially if the clothes are nice and get really trashed.
I'm kinda with Nollvane on this one. Sometimes non-nude (either fully clothed or down to underwear/bikinis) is good. As they say, variety is the spice of life
On the subject of clothes,
Messygirl said:
DungeonMasterOne said: By non-nude, do you mean actually fully clothed (i.e. wearing something they'd wear in a city street, or to the opera), or just "non nude" as in bikinis or the like?
Our plan with the non nude shoots would have them go from fully clothed and end up in their panties and bra, with the occasional garter and stockings, kind of like how the girls in the Benny Hill skits end up. We will get them messy both full clothed and in their skivvies. We will also have them start out in bikinis in other shoots as well.
Sounds perfect maybe the occasional corset/bustier/whateveryoucallthem thrown into the mix as well.
One last comment: the occasional all white outfit messed up with stuff that ruins it beyond rescue would be cool as well. maybe something for a multigirl set?
This pretty much sums up what I was thinking too.
I love to see fancy, expensive (or expensive looking) clothes and shoes get trashed before being ripped or stripped off. I think the current batch of MG scenes that start out clothed end up nude too quickly before the clothes have the chance to be ruined. An all white outfit getting completely demolished is also a favorite of mine as I think it adds to the humiliation factor that I love so much.
I'd love to see a scene with lane dressed in a nice white outfit getting trashed and acting humiliated. Her reactions are perfect for the slapstick/humiliation angle IMHO.
As you know, 99.9% of our models go nude. But there are many non-nude models out there who do wam for other producers. Would you like to see any of them in a non-nude Messygirl style production?
Discuss
Messygirl,
Another great question! For me, WAM is not about nudity. In fact, some of the most erotic wam I have seen has been from hot women being pied in the face fully dressed. I like my WAM one of two ways. For Humiliation, or for the fun of it where the model laughs all the way through the scene! If its for Humiliation, than I like the scene to be as realistic as possible meaning the model is dressed up like she normally would be, make-up done up, looking fine. Than, she gets pied and/or slimed beyond recognition! If its for fun, it can be anyway they like, bikini, nude, fully clothed, whatever. The important thing again is model needs to have fun while getting completely covered in pie and/or slime!
So, if you know non-nude models that want to get pied. Bring them on!!
the right clothing/costume/ outfit can make a scene so much sexier (to those with erotic imaginations)...just keep the lingerie/underwear varied (hints: avoid the same old black undie sets, over-use of thongs, and anything from Victoria's Secret,)..classic/retro underwear (e.g., corsets/bustiers, ruffled/frilly, silk/satin panties, camisoles. chemises) always adds that extra special fem thrill...
Your niche is one of girls who get naked. Hell, even girls who will fuck on camera for messygirlblowjobs (will you ever update this site?)
If you changed so that half your content was clothed girls how does that make you different to all the other sites that are full of clothed girls?
Good thinking. They should just ignore a sizeable part of the WAM market and not make videos they would buy, lest they stop being the one of dozens of producers who do nudity exclusively. That makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. Sure, they're leaving money on the table but that whole idea about them being not different anymore, despite there being tons of other producers who do nudity like them anyway, really hits home.
Now that you have teased us with this you have got to do it. Smart dressed office wear and satin blouses for me and maybe if the outfit gets totally ruined a little rip here and there
Hell yes, clothing is very important. Completely nude WAM does nothing for me. Skimpy thongs or a string bikini errrr defiantly NOT. For me, either smart casual wear, office wear, something the lady would wear to work, with regular underwear, full bum knickers panties with a bra are a must. I love to see a pretty, cute, well dressed lady properly trashed, throw in some cutting and ripping, well that's perfection. My main focus is the survival of the clothes, they shouldn't be wearable again, I don't want to see her stripped naked, not even topless, just knowing the entire outfit is ruined hits the jackpot. To see the glint of an eye, the comment of, my favourite top, my best underwear, my new dress..... Wear it, Mess it, Ruin it....... Job Done !!