It's been sad during last few years for WAM, for me personally

The only WAM content I ever liked were Chega Mais (Brazilian Pie shows)
and the Allwam's Mud wrestling Series

Mostwam had a good run for a while, but now I feel there content is not as good, and they upload 1 pie scene per month.


Basically, I've been waiting for a content creator to catter to what I'm looking for
(Fully clothed, Mud or PIes, and a feeling of authenticity "where the girls want to avoid getting messy") with nothing on the horizon.

Chega Mais was amazing, but it's long gone, and nothing seems to replace it.


But there might be hope??

https://www.dressplay.com/?utm_source=paysite&utm_campaign=dressplay

Seems like the allwam (or Sindrive?) guys are producing a new series, they said there will be fully clothed WAM
(But there's nothing like that in there previews) and it's coming this March 2023


If they were to bring back Mud wrestling I really hope it looks like this

I always split The mud wrestling content in 3 eras, Pre HD, HD, and Sindrive

Allwam 2006-2008 Pre HD: Where all the girls were getting thrown in the mud with the wrestlers, The wrestling was bad for the most part, All the girls would rip their clothes off before getting in the mud pit, and the terrible porn acting was all over the place, but it was still best Era, because you would get like 20 girls in the crowd getting covered head to toes. most of them were just normal looking models, That's what always attracted me to these scenes.

Allwam 2009-2011 HD: These were the best for the actual wrestling, the 2 girls were always cute, no fake terrible porn acting, just two girls trying to get each other messy. and the crowds at least for the most part got messy too, not as good as pre HD, but still amazing none the less.

Sindrive 2014-2016 Post allwam: I was so happy when they came back after 2-3 years of nothing, but it was a big disappointment, I didn't care for most of the wrestlers (Too much makeup, Clothes didn't look like something you would see a everyday girl wear), I cared More about the crowd of girls like pre HD, who didn't look like porn stars, but it was always disappointing to see most of them leave the arena with barely a bit of splaters on them, compare that to Pre HD or even HD allwam.
Still had some good stuff in there, The couple of girls who got it was fun ot watch after 3 years with nothing.
and the 4-6 girls from the crowd wrestle at the end, these were some of the bests in my opinion.

There were also these terrible videos by Sinx, where they had WAM parties, but they mixed up wetlook and Mud together, with terrible lighting. could've been good tho.


Anyone else here who liked those same elements? I know most people prefer naked wam with porn elements in them , but there most be some people like maybe Lol?


TLDR: Do you think they will bring it back? if so do you think they will follow the older more successful formula?


By the way, I ai'm missing a lot of scenes from 2004-2006 and a couples from 2007-2008 and seems like sinx is never gonna upload them, and them have the rights now, I already got a couples from clips4sale but the quality is below garbage and nothing below late 2006.
if anyone knows where I could get them I would kiss your feet, thanks.
if anyone knows

Also a big fan of the Allwam / messy-wrestling era. My favorite part was the messy-wrestling.com era. The video quality/lighting/mud/models is still above most productions 10 years later. Girls in casual clothes like jeans and tank top were my favorite scenes.

We can only hope they rise the phoenix's from his ashes. However I won't be holding my breath.. but if it comes back I will jump right in.

We MIGHT have a thing or two to say about that. How about silk blouses, leather pencil skirts, stockings and lingerie?

Could be nice but like I said, I like casual, office, night club clothing too,

If there's a bunch of models around a pit who gets thrown in, i'd be very interested.
Like so:
https://www.wetwam.com/allwam/mud/index.htm

if it's just 1 on 1 wrestling, less so

But from what i'm seeing your thing seems to be more one on one lingerie wrestling, this doesn't really do it for me sorry . also the mud isn't really the same texture, really needs to be this thick oily mud like old allwam

add a bunch of girls around the pit who are fully clothed and get thrown in, id buy it in a hearth beat, 20-30$ per video no hesitation. '

Nah, we do everything, man. Nothing is "off limits" except what goes against our wrestlers limits. We are open to sponsorships. If you're looking for a producer to shell out the money for 6-12 ladies for a days worth of shooting in the hopes that they MIGHT break even though, you're gonna be waiting a while. Also logistically, that is a producer's nightmare. 4-6 ladies on set will keep my hands full. Directing 6-12 is even harder. SKW has been doing fetish wrestling for over 15 years and he turned down a 20 girl custom because he knew how involved it was going to be. Looks good on paper but execution is everything.

Bear in mind the whole reason the original AllWam more or less stopped was they got utterly hammered by piracy to the point it broke their business model. I remember when any WAM search on certain sites brought up pretty much the entire back catalog of major wam sites, and Allwam was almost always featured. The MasterCard clamp-down has had the side-effect of making casual tube-site piracy much harder, but the underlying problem is still there. So unless a millionaire wammer comes along who's willing to underwrite the costs of huge multi-girl scenes without expecting a financial return, it's very unlikely we'll ever see that type of scene again.

Definitely interested to see what Nostalgic Erotica Prod do in terms of fully clothed scenes. Personally I'd prefer the pencil skirt to be satin, or even to be smart satin trousers, and delete the stockings and lingerie - but more than wiling to consider purchase if the scenes are fully clothed and either stay that way, or rough timings of how long the clothed section lasts are given, so I can judge value for money of the part I want to watch.

That really is the thing. Allwam is a perfect example of when unfettered piracy is permitted to run its course. The arithmetic is simple: Steal content from producers= less money Production makes= less money for models= no new content. In many ways, Sinx and their way of running things is their response to the piracy issue as even if a video is lost to the various piracy web chats, they still make a decent amount on the return to justify the loss so sadly it is the honest paying customers left with the higher costs.

In the end, if you REALLY want to see content like what Allwam produced, support your existing producers now by buying what they're selling, promote the producers and models you like. Be vocal about prods doing this sort of stuff like GLAM or ourselves. I get amazing feedback all the time with each release from various fans and I couldn't be more humbled and honored. It really IS a privilege but we can only do so much. I'd LOVE to be able to direct a 10 girl mud scene and for something like that, I could easily justify a 3rd cameraman but an effort of that magnitude takes A LOT of resources. Outfits alone for one scene with 8-10 ladies could easily exceed $600-$1,000 on the cheap side.

Lol, I got Faith and Mia Hope coming in March 10th and we're doing a muddy clothed catfight. Mia doesn't do topless so this gives a good opportunity for me to be creative with the match style, tempo, dynamic and length. I am actually looking at a couple of silk dresses and slacks as we will be doing a shoot interview with Faith that takes a bit of a turn for the worse when Mia shows up. I REALLY hope they're careful around the mudpit behind us and don't fall in

This is great news, I second Mr Lannister on the dress code. Casual is on top of my list.. then nightclub.
I totally understand the financial and logistics issue a 7+ girls production is, and I get it thats its most likely a money pit. Probably better to stick to 4 girls.
So I will get every casual mud wrestling scene count on me

If I may give my artistic 2 cents. Lighting should be very bright during the wrestling, I want to be able to see every details or bits not covered etc.. I think the dimmed light or other special effects like color lights or smoke can add to the pre-fight story lines, but when the wrestling starts, lights should be on. Like in the WWE.. they have all kinds of laser, smoke, pyro, giant screen.. but when the wrestling starts we want to see.

Really happy to see you producing mud wrestling

This needs to be released ASAP! It seems like we've been waiting on this match since the introduction of "windows 95"

LOL! I'm working on it. Right now I am inundated with work and planning my shoots coming up in March. Hopefully I can knock out the rest of my action items by the end of this week and get a chance to sit at the computer to release the Sondra vs Bella Luxx Mud Match that follows Calisa vs Bella Oil wrestling match.