I am intrigued to know how producers such as the great Leon and Lisa Moomin have industrial units that they have converted into wonderful Wam studios with showers tiled floors and drainage etc say to their landlords what they are doing or need to convert to etc. Also Have there ever been surprise visits! Or inspections? Any problems with drainage? :

If they don't own their space and rent. Most commercial spaces are renovated to suit the tenants needs and land lords often don't care what tenants are doing so long as it's legal and they pay the rent on time.

Leon & Lisa are the only ones I know of in the UK that have such a wonderfully huge and modern industrial space.

My studio is purpose built, drain in the floor etc but... is the size of their warehouse pantry I'll admire their set up forever. Just mind blowing.

Mine also isn't industrial, it's residential - a not quite double but long garage, converted with insulation, soundproofing, bathroom, 4 extractor fans, heating, altro non slip flooring and the all important floor drain. It's sadly not a full wet room though, goo has to be pushed down the drain with big floor squeegees

We had a fantastic unit for our studio for quite a few years. It was sensibly sized and priced but was also very discreet. Our landlord kind of knew what we did and his only word was he didn't want it turning into Hollywood.
We didn't do that much to it that couldn't be undone other than laying a floor that would self drain so it could be cleaned easily.

Having had the privilege of visiting both the Moomin's WAM industrial unit and Candy's current studio (as well as her previous venues such as a dedicate house!!) plus a few others I'd say the common factor is being discreet on the outside.

When you rent anything - a house, industrial unit, car, suit for an event, etc. no one cares what you're doing as long as you don't damage/ruin it and that you give it back in the same condition you received it in.

If you're drawing attention from the outside then yes, someone is going to say something.
This could be noise complaints, parking or things going on at inappropriate times... That or you're overtly filming WAM scenes outdoors!!

Thanks everyone very interesting!

Generally speaking landlords don't care too much unless it can either come back on them, it's damaging the property or... they can't get anyone who is paying more

landlords have to pay business rates on empty properties so coming along with a niche request can save them a bob or two. At least, temporarily.

Question-it seems like the UK has a lot more TV programming that involves getting messy than the United States does (I only know of Ellen and Ellen's Game of Games, both of which got cancelled, and then Nickolodeon).

Have any of you considered going on a show and just standing there/barely trying so you're guaranteed to get messy? Or would that just take the fun out of it?

Also does anyone know if there's a place where you would discuss like specific producers?

There probably isn't really nearly as much programming as is thought - and I won't say things like TV game shows are difficult to get onto; but there are a lot of applications. They also do tend to do this around more celebrity stuff.

There is also the question on morals and ethics - especially as an awful lot of these shows are aimed at children and you are partaking for a sexual fetish.

Going back a few years (I don't even know if they're still running) when Gungee was doing student events they specifically stated they would never advertise the where or when to the WAM community because it would change the vibe of the event : understandable, would people be so willing to get involved if they knew others were there to fetishise them.

For a while I was shooting outdoor mud scenes. My wife and I are now building a wam room in our home. Would we hire models and shoot messy videos here? Absolutely not. A commercial space is very different, as it separates the production team from their personal lives, specifically their homes. Hiring models we haven't met, and shooting videos at home with strangers would not be something we'd be comfortable with, yet others do and have no issues. I guess having a commercial building known as 'the place where women come and go and videos are shot' and having your home known for the same reason, are two different things. Sometimes family members pop by unannounced, or neighbours knock at the door to return a borrowed item, as they see your car in the driveway and know you are home. It would be far too easy to be interrupted at an inopportune time, so our wam room will be strictly for our own enjoyment. If we were to shoot videos from home using models, we'd convert a garage or other outbuilding into a wam studio, complete with insulation to keep it warm and somewhat soundproof.

That's a good point. Also asking because there's a well known producer on here that did a thing where they would take a portable jacuzzi and put it out on a public street and coerce random people to get in fully clothed and I could never tell whether or not these were actual random people or just paid actors. Like I distinctly remember a scene where they got a girl who was supposedly on her way to meet her boyfriend at the movie theater and convinced her to get in the water in a dress and flip flops and the girl's reaction gave off the vibe that she had done it before which kind of made me wonder.

As for the Gungee thing- I remember seeing a ton of posts on Yahoo Answers that were all basically along the lines of "my college is having a gunge tank at our winter formal and you get slimed if you lose at a game, is it worth it to risk my $300 gown and heels?". After going through college I can say pretty confidently that I don't think any sorority in the U.S. would willingly have a gunge tank at their formal so I'm wondering if this is just a U.K. thing?

I'm currently not aware if any unis are doing mess based events - they're often usually during things like Freshers Week (induction) or Rag Week (where people do daft stuff for charity)

I imagine there is some form of similar in some areas of the US.

It's not like an "every Uni" thing in the UK - but the UK being a small country it often seems that way.

Some Greek life organizations will do mess based events to raise money-

Pie a brother, egg a brother, I've also been to a few foam frat parties.

I also know some schools have traditions that involve getting wet(if this is grasping for straws let me know). My alma mater has a fountain in the main plaza where if you go in before graduation, local legend says you won't graduate on time. A lot of people will jump in the weekend before graduation and because we're coming from parties it's usually fully clothed but I've also seen multiple people jump in right after the ceremony. When I did it I did it once shirtless and then again with a shirt on because I thought I would get the full experience with a shirt on but I also think that was just the fetish showing through.

There's a college in Texas that's right on the Rio Grande (any Texas State grads here?) where it's literally tradition to jump in the river after graduation in your cap and gown and I think most people just do it with a bathing suit on but I've also seen pictures of people jumping in in like their shirt and pants or grad dress.