Nyssa and I had not seen each other for a while, so we did some catching up and some ragging on industry people we both know, quite the giggle. We got to talking about what sold well and what did not and Nyssa said that all her JOI video's sold very well. I said: "what the fuck is a JOI Video?" LOL

Jack off Instructional video! I had heard of them, never made one, never seen one, I know the model has to have good acting skills and really know how to talk dirty, so I guess I never had a model that was good at that, well perhaps I should have asked. So Nyssa told me we should make one in the Mud, possibly the first one ever? So I agreed, should be on the UMD after the holidays.

Do you all buy none WAM JOI video's? Do you know what they are? Do you like the idea of a hot WAM girl talking you thru masturbating with a huge prize at the end you aide in a huge O? From what I am told they are mainstream in other fetishes, just kinda wondering why WAM producers don't make them?

Phil

I've bought a couple in the past Jacy has done some really great ones in the past IMO also Amy from messygirl also used to do some bangers that were JOI adjacent.

Maybe I am too old but I don't get the appeal at all. I ain't buying that this woman is encouraging me, specifically, to get off. Thanks, but I can do that all on my own, no encouragement needed.

I watched a JOI on mud puddle visuals by candle boxxx and I would to see nyssa giving JOI instructions while she's in the mud. She is one of my favorite WAM models since I first saw her on MPV.

I've bought Curious Vixen's pie one. I like it.

It's something you have to get the tone right for. I regard it much like POV mess videos. Requires a degree of skill on the model because if it comes across as fake it's very unsexy.

I bet Jayce's ones are great.

Yes I remember Amy from MG was great at talking dirty. Nyssa is also good. I too thought there was no need for such a video but talking is part of sex for me anyway, a lot of the girls I know love dirty talk so I am not bad at it. I think very few women in general can do it, yes Candle was one of those girls with an over abundance of personality, so she was funny in anything she did, including sex, Nyssa does it very well.

Phil

I've bought several wam joi videos. But for me they are all videos with the viewer being told how to get messy (and jerk off). Some of them the model gets messy along with you, some not.

Yea, Candle did a good job this. She may have been the first to do it for us.

Sarah Michelle, Anabelle Pync and Sadie Holmes also did JOI scenes. Star and Kendra James did scenes that were not specifically JOI, but very close.

The term Jerk Off Instruction seems a bit off to me. I wish whoever coined that had gone with Jerkoff Encouragement instead. Like we need to be told how to do it? Hehe

Even so, I do enjoy the motion - especially when it's obvious they have 'hands on' experience.

I think one of the reasons it isn't as prevalent as it seems many WAMMERS aren't into domination. Yes, there are plenty that are but when you're creating a niche fetish (WAM) and then incorporating femdom elements, there seems to be less of a market for it.

I've made a few of these but most would rather see me get messy rather than taunting them through a screen.

I buy every GOOD messy JOI video I can find, I love them. Problem is finding good ones.

Actually I didn't feel like it was dominant, just enthusiastic, the dead dunks at the end to make a climax were perfectly timed LOL But then I am weird!

Phil

Any talking about the mess and what the girl wants to do is a winner

Okay MM fixed the file size on Nyssa JOI, you can download the longer proper file now Hope you love it.

Phil

What ever happened to Amy?

I'd *much* rather be taunted than watch somebody else get messy! But I guess I'm in the minority.

I'm a big fan of JOI vids, especially messy ones!

Well I will have to make some more JOI video's. The same thing happened to Amy as happens to all MG models.

Phil