Just a question for producers - why aren't you all marketing the crap out of your videos on Youtube?

Unless I'm doing the wrong kind of searches, I see very little WAM marketing on YT. I mean, for vanilla shoots, you can do a great preview. For adult (nudity) you just need to be clever with editing.

Because they keep closing down our channels, so fuck YouTube.

Really? That's very odd. Maybe they're not marking the videos as 18+. If it's marked as 18+, I don't see the issues - especially with vanilla scenes.

Youtube are well known for blocking LGBTQ *advice* videos, with no sexual content about them, and they also demonitised almost all but the biggest channels on there, hedging out smaller creators who helped build them up - it's not a friendly platform for most things, so WAM adverts, vanilla or not, would likely get deleted at first flag (and you know someone would flag it)

Again (and I have a fetish channel with 1 million views last month) if you're uploading content and marking it as 18+, there's nothing to flag.

I feel what's been happening is producers are not marking their vids as adult, then they get flagged and removed.

So as long as you mark it as 18+ and you're not including anything in the video that includes nudity, you're fine.

You think most people in the states and UK who are into WAM are on this forum? I'd say 1% are - maybe 1%

We had the biggest WAM channel on Youtube, TWICE.

Our first channel had just over 13,000 subscribers and got closed maliciously by someone creating spam posts somewhere, promising nude girls, linking to our channel, we got removed for spamming.

Our second channel had just under 15,000 subscribers and got removed for exactly the same reason, no matter how much I protested that we didn't post spam posts to other sites/platforms, nor did anyone working for us, Youtube just killed the page.

I actually think it was someone from the minx wetlook forum as both times it happened just after i fell out with someone on there.

Youtube does not acknowledge the potential of malicious attacks to bring down a channel and their appeal procedure is crap.
Add to this the fact that their acceptable content policies are completely unclear and wavey.

As I said, Youtube can do one!!!

Well that really sucks. And you can't appeal to YT for something like that? That's crazy.

Where did you get that number from?

I've been marketing the crap out of my stuff on YouTube for over a decade. At one point, I think the SAW parody video had amassed something like 50,000 views in a couple days, and was one of the biggest "comedy videos" on the whole site.

A few of my vids had views well over 100,000. The first clip I put up was sitting at 500K and was one of the first things you saw by typing "pie in the face." Then, one day, some troll reported my stuff, and everything got pulled overnight. No explanation, no recourse. I deleted my (now useless) channel and learned a hard lesson about YouTube's priorities.

I'll also say, those videos that got a ton of views? They increased traffic and sales slightly, but not that much. Not sure if you're right and maybe only 1% of the people "into WAM" come to the UMD, but I'd argue the bulk of the folks who BUY WAM are already here. Most of your YouTube views come from folks hunting for free (and sometimes pirated) clips, who never buy anything at all.

ANYWAY. In the last decade, I started a new channel, promoted it aggressively again, monetized it, and got some real views on a few clips (50K or more). The ad money was still minimal, though. But I guess even that was too much for the billion-dollar corporation that is YouTube. They've since made sweeping changes, ostensibly to "protect" kids, but mostly they've marginalized 18+ videos as much as humanly possible. My account isn't allowed to be monetized and most of my clips now get buried. So I don't care. I link to the clips to promote my stuff, and my subscribers see them, but I can't control YouTube's algorithims.

Youtube isn't actually a great platform to promote on. Very few conversions compared to other platforms such as Google, Twitter etc. We do have a channel but it's a bit of an afterthought.

We'd probably do better removing everything to encourage people to come and find the website and sign up.

Wondering that.

When I cruise other platforms I don't run into too much new material.

Tried it twice and got shot down both times. All it takes is the usual troll or worse, someone who is already pirating your stuff without getting taken down, to flag you and the YT machine shuts you down. Over the years I've become convinced that YouTube is basically a golden idol of idiot worship anyway.

Wam isn't on the mainstream level as your Hoovies, Doug Demuros, Tavarish's, Motor Trends, and any myriad of the automotive channels I watch on a daily basis. I enjoy finding random mainstream clips but it hasn't helped sales from what I've noticed. The pirated clips that ended up illegally on the hub only brought sales down.

He just forgot the 2 zeros after the one.

I have a YouTube... it's been shutdown a couple of times but I got It back on appeal even tho I had no nudity and censored all the stuff and marked the channel 18+. Its been brutal. Most of social media is completely puritanical

Videos containing fetish material will be removed or age restricted.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802002?hl=en

I used to have some of my amateur mudding videos on youtube, voluntarily marked as age restricted, but I got put off from using youtube for that by the sheer number of public playlists that contain both unambiguous WAM fetish videos and videos of children's messy play. Especially seeing my own videos included on those playlists, the association made me quite uncomfortable. So I feel perhaps youtube just isn't the place for fetish content.