Yes, I probably prefer fully clothed wam myself, the turn on for me is a smart dressed and attractive girl getting trashed. I like her clothes and hair etc getting messed up. Charlotte of Mostwam, possibly my favourite wam crush! was brilliant at this
I wouldn't say I am only interested in non-explicit WAM but I prefer WAM where the focus is on slapstick and comic humiliation. I like mainstream WAM for this reason. I don't mind nudity or sex but if I am looking for that, I go elsewhere. I think most pie videos now seem to either be: 1) solo vids of a woman pieing herself; or 2) quickly turn into explicit vids. Not really interested in either. But there are still producers who do what I prefer, which is nice.
I think I fall into this catagory as well. I much prefer less explicit stuff. Pies and goo can be poured into clothing are aimed at the more sensitive areas, but that's about as explicit as I like.
I think with me, it's because I grew up with a lot of the gameshows, prank shows and Saturday evening things where folks got gunged or pied. That's the main content that was available to me once I realised I was in the fetish.
Actually, just thinking, it might be because of some prudishness or some autistic trait in me. Though I've had few partners engage in the fetish with me, if they did, I think I'd much prefer things to be non-penetrative. I'd much prefer that we engage in messy situations, then I go off and masturbate.
I tend to side with the majority of posts here so far. Whilst I enjoy some scenes that feature nudity, I like the fun side and a reason for getting messy, however corny, and to be successful in my eyes, this does not necessarily involve loss of clothing. Very similar to CKCP views.
Yup, this was me for the longest time. While I appreciated the work of MessyFun and WAMTEC, I wound up gravitating towards the "amateur" vids from Neil, Robby, Phoebe and others.... Mostly because it was clothed and more "silly" than sexual. And then, of course, a few years later... I basically started SlapstickStuff to make the exact kind of videos I didn't see that much in the WAM world.
Most of these posts are long gone now, but if you've been on the UMD since Day 1, you might remember that I was against the "porn" ads when they started appearing on the site... and when there was discussion about creating a PG-only part of the forum, I pushed for that too. In hindsight, I was being overly rigid.... and the forum was gonna evolve as it evolved regardless (including the ability to now ACTUALLY create a PG-only UMD if you want it, partially due to governmental nanny-state policing, but still). But I still miss the "old days" of WAM, including when everything was a lot more... innocent, maybe? (I can still remember the first penis ever shown on the UMD.... thanks to Chainsaw John, who bizarrely turned his dick pic into his avatar, back when male genitalia wasn't allowed....)
And yes, I know this sounds hypocritical since I HAVE been making R-rated WAM for over a decade now, off and on, with full nudity from time to time. And yes, it DOES sell better. But I still try to keep a playfulness and silliness to the scenes, even when they're full nude..... Let's just say it's more Benny Hill than Basic Instinct. And the spirit of my PG-rated self is always gonna live on in SlapstickStuff forever..... which is another way of saying you are NEVER gonna see any kind of WAM sex in one of my vids....
I may well be the only full-range WAM producer (mud, messy, gunge, wetlook) who doesn't feature any nudity or sexual behaviour in our main content. Basically Saturation Hall and Langstonedale, and the Saturation Hall Download Store which they both feed, are all strictly PG WAM, fully clothed and we play it for fun and happiness, the joy of getting messy or wet fully clothed.
I got into sploshing from watching mainstream TV in the 70s and 80s, so while yes it's a turn-on, the scenes that I first responded to were fully clothed ones. Nudity does nothing at all for me, once someone takes their clothes off I lose all interest, while I find fully dressed women really attractive, especially in sportswear, farming gear, or industrial workwear - I'm a huge fan of practical clothes and sensible boots.
We have done kinkier stuff all the way to nude and female masturbation on our Imperatrix Domina download store but that's been a combination of "the models wanted to" or experimenting with ideas. And I've filmed very kinky stuff for other people, as a professional videographer. But for my own taste, fully clothed only, no clothes, no interest, and I want it to be fun - game-show "willing victim" is fine, but no humiliation or suffering, even if just acted.
I pretty much agree with Slapstick stuff, I particularly like the playful, silly, Benny Hill style of pie and food fights, like where a sexy girl in a tight dress in On the periphery of a pie fight and gets accidentally hit with a pie, then maybe gets her dress ripped, revealing sexy underwear
I'm definitely into clothed WAM. Nudity is kind of a turn off to me. However, I'm always looking for the best pie hits and slimings, so it happens I buy a few R-rated scenes just for that.
Anyway, I'm glad there are still great clothed WAM scenes for sale. But I'll be quoting Rich by saying that I also miss a bit the old days.
And now, some pics (from Slapstick Stuff, Hot Mess Pies, Messy Dreams, The Man The Wife The Sotre and The Pie Zone) :
Pretty much all of my messy DVD's (What's a DVD?) are of the non-explicit variety. Some old school WAMF, tons of Slapstick Stuff and quite a bit of Neil Edwards work (although he would feature boobs, but I don't really consider that explicit). I always found that side of the genre more fun.
I like a degree of realism, as soon as it becomes sexual it is paint by numbers produced fetish content, which obviously has wide market appeal, but destroys any concept of the realism I like.
Acting out a gameshow works. Acting out a gameshow where halfway through everybody takes their clothes off for some reason, not so much.
Also Ace here! No interest in sexual stuff in a scene, although nudity is fine. Doesn't turn me on but I don't mind it. I do have a fondness for limited clothing in general, but it feels more aesthetic than sexual even though it's a fetish, if that delineation makes sense.
So, the early things for me were Slapstickstuff, PiedPinups, others. Gold standard for me was when Rich's models started wearing more bikinis or equivalent...I'm probably the only guy on here who misses the pinstripe outfits and would like to see them make a return, although he's probably thinking, "then order a custom, my dude".
Even when it was just less clothing in general, but they weren't naked yet. He's still lots of great stuff these days, but that was the peak for my WAM love.
These days, The Man and the Wife for sure, or WillaWam, even tho she does nudity stuff, has that wacky silliness to her (the "getting paid/pied" scene is 100% my jam).
WAM Photography is also pretty good! If I ever did my own productions, you'd probably see a synthesis of that with Slapstickstuff, some of The Man and the Wife, and a few select PiedPinup scenes as the main inspiration.
Beyond the clothing (or appropriate lack thereof), the humor and good naturedness is what also gets me. You can have a producer shoot a naked woman and not feel like you're leering at them through the camera, and you can have a producer get a bunch of close ups of the model's ass even though she's fully clothed and you feel a little icky...
And yes, I know this sounds hypocritical since I HAVE been making R-rated WAM for over a decade now, off and on, with full nudity from time to time. And yes, it DOES sell better. But I still try to keep a playfulness and silliness to the scenes, even when they're full nude..... Let's just say it's more Benny Hill than Basic Instinct. And the spirit of my PG-rated self is always gonna live on in SlapstickStuff forever..... which is another way of saying you are NEVER gonna see any kind of WAM sex in one of my vids....
I actually really love "silly and fun" with my nudity. Not everything has to be sexually charged to be arousing or exciting, and I'm also one of those weird ducks who prefers curves to holes when it comes to anything explicit.
I've always tended to enjoy clothed WAM more than WAM where the participants are naked/only wearing underwear. For as long as I can remember, one of (if not the main) aspects of watching people get messy that fascinated me was wondering how it felt to be completely covered in slime, pies, and mess but still be wearing clothes, and how your clothes would feel all soaked and trashed.
As I've gotten older, I do enjoy some explicit WAM that only features nudity, but the vast majority of my WAM library is videos where the Women are clothed throughout the whole video or start clothed, get messy in them, and then eventually take them off
SpandexGungeLover said: I think with me, it's because I grew up with a lot of the gameshows, prank shows and Saturday evening things where folks got gunged or pied. That's the main content that was available to me once I realised I was in the fetish.
This is pretty much my experience too. Not gonna yuck anyone's yum when it comes to nudity and sexual stuff mixed with WAM, but my personal preferences always lean more towards the "clothed person gets unexpectedly gunged / is somewhat shown up or embarrassed by it" end of the messy scale that comes from watching similar TV shows of a certain vintage.
messyfan89 said: Is anyone else only interested in WAM when either there is no nudity or sexual acts involved?
I am asexual and have always enjoyed WAM for its sensory joy rather than anything else.
I appreciate that this is a fetish site so I will be in the minority but it would be nice to know that there are others out there!
Same. I mean, we do oil and mud wrestling and honestly I feel the trope of nudity is far too overplayed so we will go topless typically for a majority of our matches but honestly this itself is a trope. Typically the tops come off by the nature of cheating during a match somewhere midway through. It's storytelling. Beyond that, the trash talk and the occasional f bomb or insult, we are pretty tame.
Another ace chiming in. I don't like X-rated stuff at all. Sometimes I'm in the mood for nudity, sometimes I'm not. I love "implied nudity" scenes where the model is in just her panties (or bikini bottoms) and has to hold her breasts the entire time. I find it so much more exciting than a topless gunging. Similarly, I love when a model wears a strapless dress and has to keep pulling it up as the mess drags it down. I much prefer panty filling to a nude gunging with spread legs. I think about how it must feel to have clothing trap the mess against her sensitive parts, and imagining this is infinitely better (for me) than seeing it slide past.
It's good to know I'm not the only ace here! I figured there had to more but it's nice to know for certain.
I realized recently I'm probably on the asexual spectrum, and I do prefer clothed stuff. Even when there's nudity I'm mostly concerned with the woman's face.
I'm no prude, but I don't look for nudity or anything explicit in slapstick. For me it's always been fully clothed, or at least partially - lingerie being revealed etc. and silly! As a crossdresser I find the outfits as important as the mess!! I've always been influenced by what might be called mainstream slapstick - circuses, pantomimes, TV and film - there being a sort of storyline, the scenarios being about tit-4-tat started accidentally, or arguments descending into mess. The posh, well dressed lady or the frilly maid accidentally sitting on a cake, getting a pie in the face, or splashed with paste/paint, or forced to step into a muddy puddle etc. and it takes off from there.
Clothes filling is about as "explicit" as it gets for me, silliness is a big factor - who stands there patiently holding open their trousers, or holding up their dress watching as someone picks up a large jug of custard and walks over to them? And they're the only ones who don't know what's going to happen next!!! Or the well dressed lady looking straight to camera sighing with a resigned expression as the custard is poured down her cleavage.....
Note asexual doesn't mean non-sexual, it's fairly common for asexual people to have kinks and fetishes and/or masturbate for own pleasure, but just no wish or desire to ever have sex with other people.