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"The Role of AI in WAM Creation"
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As AI technology continues to evolve, it has found its way into various creative fields, including video production. One area that has sparked discussion is the use of AI to generate videos for niche content, such as wet and messy (WAM) themes.
While some may see AI as a shortcut to producing full-fledged content, I believe its true potential lies in its ability to act as a source of inspiration and idea generation rather than as a substitute for human creativity. AI can help brainstorm new concepts, explore unique scenarios, or even provide storyboarding assistance--but the heart and soul of WAM content, in my opinion, comes from the creators themselves, who bring personal passion and artistic vision to the table.
Using AI in this way doesn't detract from the authenticity of the art but instead enhances it by offering fresh perspectives and expanding the creative possibilities for producers. Think of it as a collaborative partner that aids in the brainstorming process without taking over the entire production.
Please take a moment to answer the survey below and share your thoughts!
While some may see AI as a shortcut to producing full-fledged content, I believe its true potential lies in its ability to act as a source of inspiration and idea generation rather than as a substitute for human creativity. AI can help brainstorm new concepts, explore unique scenarios, or even provide storyboarding assistance--but the heart and soul of WAM content, in my opinion, comes from the creators themselves, who bring personal passion and artistic vision to the table.
Using AI in this way doesn't detract from the authenticity of the art but instead enhances it by offering fresh perspectives and expanding the creative possibilities for producers. Think of it as a collaborative partner that aids in the brainstorming process without taking over the entire production.
Please take a moment to answer the survey below and share your thoughts!
Candycustard used chat gpt to generate questions for quizzes. That seemed like a good use for it, and I liked how she stated it was from chat gpt in the title of the scene.
Let's say there was a scene where the models act and all of the dialouge is scripted. If the dialouge was really good, I would compliment the producer for good writing. If they replied saying it was written by AI, then I would be disappointed. So it would be better to disclose that the dialouge was generated in the description rather than trying to pass it as genuine.
If a scene featured 5 activities and all 5 ideas came from chatgpt, I would not call that inspiration.
Let's say there was a scene where the models act and all of the dialouge is scripted. If the dialouge was really good, I would compliment the producer for good writing. If they replied saying it was written by AI, then I would be disappointed. So it would be better to disclose that the dialouge was generated in the description rather than trying to pass it as genuine.
If a scene featured 5 activities and all 5 ideas came from chatgpt, I would not call that inspiration.
I think this is worth posting again. Thinking that where AI videos are now is as good as they'll ever get it a bit like playing Pong in an arcade in 1982 and saying "it'll never be better than this." In time (no one knows how long) you will not be able to tell the different between a real and AI video.
Yes, in the following circumstances:
- not sure if this has been brought up before, but I think it would be a great tool if you're having a custom done and want something very specific done.
- not sure how to approach this as someone who's posted AI stuff in the past, but going to give it my best shot. Obviously posting a deepfake of a model as a "I want to see so-so do something like this, but for one reason or another it's probably never going to happen so here's my best shot at emulating it" should be a no-no.
- in terms of my previous point, as someone who *has* posted AI images that are inspired by certain models, but A) obviously aren't them (like a redhead as opposed to Bri) and aren't posted as a scene to make a profit, what do we think about that?
- not sure if this has been brought up before, but I think it would be a great tool if you're having a custom done and want something very specific done.
- not sure how to approach this as someone who's posted AI stuff in the past, but going to give it my best shot. Obviously posting a deepfake of a model as a "I want to see so-so do something like this, but for one reason or another it's probably never going to happen so here's my best shot at emulating it" should be a no-no.
- in terms of my previous point, as someone who *has* posted AI images that are inspired by certain models, but A) obviously aren't them (like a redhead as opposed to Bri) and aren't posted as a scene to make a profit, what do we think about that?
I think there are still a few good use cases so long as they don't rely on generating the final product. Models have appreciated AI image "beat sheets" and mood boards so they know how to pose or what wardrobe to bring to the shoot. AI has helped me generate trivia questions--even though at a certain point, despite the VAST VAST UNIVERSE of topics out there, you'll see AI prefer asking variations of the same 10 or so questions. And, of course, the generative AI features on editing software like Lightroom, Photoshop, and Davinci Resolve helps me with editing and retouching processes that used to take forever just a few years ago.
Just don't expect AI to generate a good photo or video of a girl getting slimed and call it done.
Just don't expect AI to generate a good photo or video of a girl getting slimed and call it done.
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You might want to have a look at the two surveys on AI in WAM I did over the last three weeks:
https://umd.net/forums/ai-attitudes-survey-2025
https://umd.net/forums/ai-wam-an-alternative-aproach-paintings
Using AI to brainstorm is possible, but bear in mind the purpose of WAM videos is to get people aroused, and as AI can't get aroused it may not be that effective at working out what works for humans. It'll have ideas, but it's the difference between someone who's read about WAM but doesn't have any interest in it at all planning scenes based purely on statistics, vs someone who's actually into it and getting turned on by it.
I suspect with an AI approach to planning you might end up trying to "chase the market" rather than follow your own niche, which has always been advised against for producers in the past - better to make what you really like. Certainly be interesting to see what comes out if it.
https://umd.net/forums/ai-attitudes-survey-2025
https://umd.net/forums/ai-wam-an-alternative-aproach-paintings
Using AI to brainstorm is possible, but bear in mind the purpose of WAM videos is to get people aroused, and as AI can't get aroused it may not be that effective at working out what works for humans. It'll have ideas, but it's the difference between someone who's read about WAM but doesn't have any interest in it at all planning scenes based purely on statistics, vs someone who's actually into it and getting turned on by it.
I suspect with an AI approach to planning you might end up trying to "chase the market" rather than follow your own niche, which has always been advised against for producers in the past - better to make what you really like. Certainly be interesting to see what comes out if it.
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johnnypie said: In time (no one knows how long) you will not be able to tell the different between a real and AI video.
That's the fundamental problem, isn't it? Claiming it will get better is almost like a tautology...I'm certain it will improve, but like self-driving cars, nuclear fusion, supersonic air travel, and humans on Mars, it's not clear how to get it there even if we know what we want. And that's just the science, nevermind the political, economic, infrastructure, or social pressures and limitations.
With current AI tools, more and more scientists and developers are coming forward and saying scaling (more data) and compute (more horsepower) aren't going to get us as far as we originally thought.
A breakthrough in neurosymbolic reasoning could happen tomorrow and jumpstart the industry again, or it could be decades away. We've had nuclear fission since the late 1930s, but that doesn't mean reliable nuclear fusion is coming tomorrow.
DungeonMasterOne said: You might want to have a look at the two surveys on AI in WAM I did over the last three weeks:
https://umd.net/forums/ai-attitudes-survey-2025
https://umd.net/forums/ai-wam-an-alternative-aproach-paintings
Using AI to brainstorm is possible, but bear in mind the purpose of WAM videos is to get people aroused, and as AI can't get aroused it may not be that effective at working out what works for humans. It'll have ideas, but it's the difference between someone who's read about WAM but doesn't have any interest in it at all planning scenes based purely on statistics, vs someone who's actually into it and getting turned on by it.
I suspect with an AI approach to planning you might end up trying to "chase the market" rather than follow your own niche, which has always been advised against for producers in the past - better to make what you really like. Certainly be interesting to see what comes out if it.
https://umd.net/forums/ai-attitudes-survey-2025
https://umd.net/forums/ai-wam-an-alternative-aproach-paintings
Using AI to brainstorm is possible, but bear in mind the purpose of WAM videos is to get people aroused, and as AI can't get aroused it may not be that effective at working out what works for humans. It'll have ideas, but it's the difference between someone who's read about WAM but doesn't have any interest in it at all planning scenes based purely on statistics, vs someone who's actually into it and getting turned on by it.
I suspect with an AI approach to planning you might end up trying to "chase the market" rather than follow your own niche, which has always been advised against for producers in the past - better to make what you really like. Certainly be interesting to see what comes out if it.
The arousal thing is a *fantastic* point.
Back when I had my little AI image thread, the stuff Google was giving me was making all of my dreams come true, even if that attractive brunette woman in her early 40s climbing out of the pool in a soaking wet dress didn't look anything like my friend's hot mom.
But, and maybe this is just my tastes changing because I also haven't gotten off to a WAM video in who knows how long, it didn't do anything for me whatsoever outside of acknowledging that it was hot.
JohnWam said: As AI technology continues to evolve, it has found its way into various creative fields, including video production. One area that has sparked discussion is the use of AI to generate videos for niche content, such as wet and messy (WAM) themes.
While some may see AI as a shortcut to producing full-fledged content, I believe its true potential lies in its ability to act as a source of inspiration and idea generation rather than as a substitute for human creativity. AI can help brainstorm new concepts, explore unique scenarios, or even provide storyboarding assistance--but the heart and soul of WAM content, in my opinion, comes from the creators themselves, who bring personal passion and artistic vision to the table.
Using AI in this way doesn't detract from the authenticity of the art but instead enhances it by offering fresh perspectives and expanding the creative possibilities for producers. Think of it as a collaborative partner that aids in the brainstorming process without taking over the entire production.
Please take a moment to answer the survey below and share your thoughts!
While some may see AI as a shortcut to producing full-fledged content, I believe its true potential lies in its ability to act as a source of inspiration and idea generation rather than as a substitute for human creativity. AI can help brainstorm new concepts, explore unique scenarios, or even provide storyboarding assistance--but the heart and soul of WAM content, in my opinion, comes from the creators themselves, who bring personal passion and artistic vision to the table.
Using AI in this way doesn't detract from the authenticity of the art but instead enhances it by offering fresh perspectives and expanding the creative possibilities for producers. Think of it as a collaborative partner that aids in the brainstorming process without taking over the entire production.
Please take a moment to answer the survey below and share your thoughts!
I think there are some great places for AI. I wouldn't trust it for a film idea. As was pointed out it cannot be aroused. I think humans, but more likely sales are the best indicator of which ideas are best. AI though is great for helping enhance video quality and to fix situations in video. I think it can be helpful to producers that way.
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