Thanks for the great find, Pinhead. Great combination of an excellent pieing and a lovely lady who is also a very good sport. "It was everything I thought it would be and more," she says with a smile through the pie at the end of the short video clip linked above. She posted this video on her FB page, where in various replies to comments from others she says she loved it and that it was so much fun.
Interestingly enough, one of the commenters on FB indicates that Miss Idaho was also pied by the brother of the girl or woman who pied Abigail. Can't find anything else about that, but here's a photo of her...
There's not a good closeup of Miss Idaho International (Marissa Wickland) - but you can still see it okay.
I'm someone who is exclusively interested in mainstream clips - and it deeply saddens me that we can't really explore this kind of material because almost everyone is a damn idiot about it. There's a ton of events and videos, etc. which can be found on Facebook, Twitter, and other places - and we could do a ton of things with those events, if we were clever and creative about it. We could send people near Boise to personally videotape events like this. But, of course, we can't have nice things here.
cicada said: Yeah, so....this is maybe just flat out the best clip I've ever seen. (at least that was my reaction when I saw it four hours after it came out).
There's not a good closeup of Miss Idaho International (Marissa Wickland) - but you can still see it okay.
I'm someone who is exclusively interested in mainstream clips - and it deeply saddens me that we can't really explore this kind of material because almost everyone is a damn idiot about it. There's a ton of events and videos, etc. which can be found on Facebook, Twitter, and other places - and we could do a ton of things with those events, if we were clever and creative about it. We could send people near Boise to personally videotape events like this. But, of course, we can't have nice things here.
Your argument sounds like, "Why can't we figure out ways to trick celebrities and organizations into providing us with fetish material for free?" The answer, of course, is twofold: 1) This is ethically and morally wrong. Not that it stops #2. 2) People obsessed with a fetish to the point of reaching out to 100s/1000s of organizations and individuals often do a poor job of disguising the creep factor.
I suppose you could easily coordinate with other like-minded folks on here to record public events that pique your "interest." Again, it's morally queasy, but nothing criminal about it. I think the problem is, we've evolved since the pre-Internet days when, yes, small snail-mail clubs like "The Pie Mafia" would organize letter-writing campaigns to do the exact thing you described. (Rhonda Shear's pieings were one such successful campaign.) Not defending these actions, but back then it came off as more organic and genuine, which is probably why organizers took such request seriously. (And why RunninRebel finds it so hard for his one-man Twitter offense to gain traction.)
Also, when "WAM in the wild" was as rare as hen's teeth, it was a lot easier to convince folks to jump through hoops on the off chance it might pay off. Nowadays, you're much better off (from a practical AND ethical level) browsing YouTube for the literally thousands of pie and mess amateur clips uploaded every month.
Rich, I'm glad you remember the Pie Mafia - there probably aren't many around here who do.
A much bigger reason that RunninRebel doesn't find much traction is, of course, because he is anything but clever about how he launches his offense.
Also, who said it was always "free" - often, it may cost hundreds or thousands of dollars to achieve the intended result (of course, I'd point out that charity is a nice tax write-off).
PiedFolfy said: I'm amazed they used a crust, 99% of set up pieings in "regular" pieings are just whipped cream on a plate or in a tin. Glad to see they didn't crap out on that at least.
100% agree with this poster on the welcome use of crust. That's usually why I find mainstream-civilian clips lackluster and not worth spending a lot of time seeking out. They go the cheap and easy route. It's perfectly understandable of course. They're not catering to our demographic and, fundraisers want to maximize contributions.
Oh, Nonny Moose, I completely disagree - there are so many more opportunities available now than there ever were back then (and honestly, most opportunities now are fairly easy to convert if you are either clever enough, or you are willing to shill out the right price, or some combination of the two). I mean, I guess it's tough if you aim real high with wanting "legit celebs," but I could care less if someone is a celebrity or not.
Sheesh, back then you had to send things in the mail and hope for a VHS tape that would actually play, and so on.
It may be that there are less people interested now in pursuing these options, because there is plentiful material available that is far easier and cheaper to acquire. But, what's the sport in hunting easy game?
Oh.....Miss Idaho International, huh? [*Snicker*] That's why I couldn't find any mention of it on the websites of the REAL Miss Idaho (the one that competes in Atlantic City for Miss America) and organization.
Are you suggesting that Idaho doesn't have international flair, that people don't routinely pour into the Gem State from all nooks and crannies of the world to dig the taste of its succulent potatoes, to gaze in awe at the nation's deepest river gorge, or admire the only U.S. state seal that was designed by a woman (see below)?
I just learned that Miss Idaho (or insert any other state name) International is so named because she goes on to compete for the crown of Miss America, who in turns goes on to compete for the title of Miss Universe.
Now it's certainly true that Marissa Wickland is nowhere near the beauty that the other current Miss Idaho is, but please bear in mind that one Olivia Culpo was once the humble Miss Rhode Island International, before going on to become Miss USA ... and then Miss Universe... and finally, at the undoubted apex of her career, the recipient of an excellently delivered cream pie at her sister's deft hand...
Wait, when did it become permissible to talk about the Pie Mafia?! Back in the day you snitches would've ended up fishing with Fredo.
As long as we're telling stories, I still remember my initiation into the Pie Mafia, back in, oh, '87 or so. Took out the guy who fucked up the Heather Locklear 25-pie ambush (damn, we got SO close that time) and then I was like, "Well, that's it, I'm a made man, right, guys?" And the other pie mafiosos were all, "Yeahhhhhhh, ummm, you got it Rege, sure. Made man. Yup!"
Still the only time Mom was ever proud of me, I think.
Nonny, on that Facebook page - you have to scroll down to the unmarked video of the event that's about 13 minutes long. I believe Miss Idaho International (but not Miss Idaho!) is the first or second person to be pied. There's several other pretty solid targets too.
Regis said: Wait, when did it become permissible to talk about the Pie Mafia?! Back in the day you snitches would've ended up fishing with Fredo.
As long as we're telling stories, I still remember my initiation into the Pie Mafia, back in, oh, '87 or so. Took out the guy who fucked up the Heather Locklear 25-pie ambush (damn, we got SO close that time) and then I was like, "Well, that's it, I'm a made man, right, guys?" And the other pie mafiosos were all, "Yeahhhhhhh, ummm, you got it Rege, sure. Made man. Yup!"
Still the only time Mom was ever proud of me, I think.
The irony is, the head of the Pie Mafia, Hurley Coward (not his real name)..... apparently got his rocks off by driving around in his car with a bakery pie. And when he saw a cute girl walking along the road, he would slow down.... roll down the window... and pie her.
Before driving away.
I'm not even making this up. Assault and battery. That's what the RunninRebels of this world had to do before the Internet.
SStuff said: The irony is, the head of the Pie Mafia, Hurley Coward (not his real name)..... apparently got his rocks off by driving around in his car with a bakery pie. And when he saw a cute girl walking along the road, he would slow down.... roll down the window... and pie her.
Before driving away.
I'm not even making this up. Assault and battery. That's what the RunninRebels of this world had to do before the Internet.
SStuff said: I think the problem is, we've evolved since the pre-Internet days when, yes, small snail-mail clubs like "The Pie Mafia" would organize letter-writing campaigns to do the exact thing you described. (Rhonda Shear's pieings were one such successful campaign.) Not defending these actions, but back then it came off as more organic and genuine, which is probably why organizers took such request seriously
Rhonda Shear within the last few years has actually uploaded videos of herself getting pied. She's even tweeted about it. Have The Pie Mafia evolved into a secret Illuminati organisation in order to control her?
A. Nonny Moose said: Real-life beauty queens getting pied in their regalia (crown, sash, etc.) during their reign are exceedingly rare. Hurley listed the few that we knew of back in the Pie Mafia newsletter days, and it came to fewer than half a dozen, out of which I recall at least one was an out-and-out assault (the Iowa Pork Queen getting pied by a PETA activist), and another was the result of a Pie Mafioso who was also a professional clown pieing a lower-tier (but very pretty) beauty queen (she was, like Mrs. Nebraska USA or something like that) at a fair (it was not planned or expected on her part, but the clown got her tacit permission in the form of a smile, a nod, and no objection as he expectantly held the pie up to her face) to do it right before he did).
(BTW, semi-OT, but it reminds me: there was an excellent news photo a few years ago out of Ramona, California showing two beauty queens - Miss Rodeo Ramona and Miss Teen Rodeo Ramona - after having been nicely pied for charity. The original article linked to a large copy of the pic, which I lost in a hard drive crash (ironically, the day before I was scheduled to do my weekly backups). For a time, there was a very small lo-res pic (not much bigger than a thumbnail) that you could find if you poked around in the site's directories (something most sites prevent you from doing nowadays), but not the larger version. If this rings a bell with anyone who might have the pic saved somewhere, come forth and be recognized.)
I know I've got a pic of the Mrs. Nebraska pieing (yes, you got the state right -- she had the sash on with Nebraska written on it) as well as the better res pic of the Rodeo Ramonas somewhere on my hard drive, but trying to find them amidst the hundreds of other real-life pieings I've saved pics of is a needle-in-the-haystack proposition. I distinctly recall that Mrs. Nebraska pieing looked like it was pretty great, coverage-wise, although the quality of the image I had was quite low-res (that one was uploaded to the web in the late 90s, I think on Hurley Coward's site, so you can imagine it was very compressed).
There was also a rodeo beauty queen pied in full regalia in the late 90s (I think it was in Nevada, and I know the pieing was an animal-rights protest against the rodeo) that I recall seeing pictures of online at that time, but it's hardly worth the effort to track it down. The mess the pie left on the queen was minimal, although possibly that's just a matter of the photo being taken too late. Pretty sure she was wearing a purple or maybe light blue satin-y looking dress and her crown when she got pied.
Caption for photo, published in newspapers across the country in January 1987: Miss USA contestant Constance Lynn McCullough (right) of New York settles a Super Bowl bet with Miss Colorado, Polly Karen Kuska. Miss Kuska got a pie in the face after the New York Giants defeated the Denver Broncos.
P.S. for anyone interested in seeing the 90s beauty queen pieings that were discussed earlier in this thread, please see the bottom of page 1. I finally found the photos and posted them, but that was in what turned out to be the last post on page 1 so it might easily get missed by many.
Can't help but notice where all the pied beauty queens we've discussed in this thread have been from: Idaho, Nebraska, Nevada, Colorado, Wyoming...
Something about the non-coastal Western states just seems to make their beauty queens into much more likely pie targets than beauty queens from any other region!
Since this seems to have become a thread about beauty queens getting the treatment, here's my personal favorite.
The current Miss Maryland USA (again, someone may have to point out how that differentiates her from the other Miss Marylands) took at least 3 pies a few years ago at a Relay for Life fundraiser. She held a different title at the time (I guess there's a college division of some kind) but she still wore a crown and sash while getting creamed.
This is Barbara Jo Ivey, aka Miss Florida 1971. This gorgeous young woman reportedly took a pie in the face during her reign of terror, but I've not been able to uncover any photos of the event.
I just located my favorite pic from Miss Maryland's pieing that isn't in that FB album. I can't remember where I found it (some blog related to the event, I think) but here it is for your enjoyment.
How do you name this kind of clothes in US? Country clothes? Western clothes?
Something I would like to know is why do WAM producers never did pie scenes with woman wearing this kind of clothes. Woman get very attractive wearing this, and it's something I've never seen around here...
rt2018 said: How do you name this kind of clothes in US? Country clothes? Western clothes?
Something I would like to know is why do WAM producers never did pie scenes with woman wearing this kind of clothes. Woman get very attractive wearing this, and it's something I've never seen around here...
Thank you! I liked it. I didn't know you have already did a video like this. It's a good stuff, and rarely used here. Like scarfs in the neck of a woman with suit or long blazers, or like leather jackets, with dress and belts. Country clothes (shirt, pants and belts) are also a good theme for pies. Hope to see more of this here on the future...
rt2018 said: Country clothes (shirt, pants and belts) are also a good theme for pies. Hope to see more of this here on the future...
Easiest and most effective way of getting content with very specific wardrobe requests? Pay for customs.
Otherwise it's basically a crapshoot as to whether a producer will randomly do your wardrobe choice on their own... and then another crapshoot if it will actually sell. In this case, T already had this outfit, and it seemed like a fun change-up, so we did it. Then the scene sold only OK, so it never happened again. If enough buyers liked Western wear enough to financially support those kind of scenes (and it would only take 50 people who ACTUALLY buy in this day & age)..... Then you'd be seeing Western wear all the time.
I made the mistake of shooting an overalls scene (not Western wear, but close) after a customer convinced me there was a HUGE market for it. So basically, I did his custom for free, because of course there's only 5 people who actually WANT to see a girl in overalls get messy, and the normal buying public avoided the scene altogether. But I was young, and didn't know any better.... Lesson learned!
The irony is, the head of the Pie Mafia, Hurley Coward (not his real name)..... apparently got his rocks off by driving around in his car with a bakery pie. And when he saw a cute girl walking along the road, he would slow down.... roll down the window... and pie her.
Before driving away.
I'm not even making this up. Assault and battery. That's what the RunninRebels of this world had to do before the Internet.
(WAMTEC Mark needs to hop on & back me up here.)
I've never heard this before, and I've definitely been around long enough! Is there any chance that he asked the girls' permission first (or got them to accept an offer for money, etc.?) - if so, I have no issue with it.