Is there anyone in the us able to watch the last ep of lock it in on the fox website as by this pic on there twitter it looks like rachel was pied in the face in know clay was in the ep as theres a clip but would like to know if rachel did aswell at the end when saying bye as i cant find a video anywhere thnks
Good to know that this clip follows both of the absolute rules for mainstream "news" pieings....
1) Pies must be constructed to ensure bad-to-terrible coverage. 2) Any male attempting to pie a female must be laughably awful at doing it. (I must say, I've never seen a dude try to pie someone from behind, and not only miss completely, but somehow pie himself instead. So well done, Goatee Douchebag!)
Dont know if im being blind but dont know what u guys are seeing i see a full pie tin covering the face for a few seconds then being removed leaving at a third of her face covered in pie yes i admit the pies where terrible but at least the after shot of her saying pie covered in pie and also got a pie the top of her head thanks ranev for doing this much appreciated .
You guys always miss the point with mainstream clips. I do not dream that they were like Rich or Anglefan's scenes. The whole point is that they are REAL...that's what makes them great. They are real situations and circumstances that feature real reactions. They're not fabricated and play-acted and produced to suit your preferences or my preferences. Most of the time they are going to be imperfect in many ways.
The reality is the magic, and I've always been amazed that most guys just don't care if something's fake. For me, once you lose that tether to the reality of a scene, it's useless.
SStuff said: Good to know that this clip follows both of the absolute rules for mainstream "news" pieings....
1) Pies must be constructed to ensure bad-to-terrible coverage. 2) Any male attempting to pie a female must be laughably awful at doing it. (I must say, I've never seen a dude try to pie someone from behind, and not only miss completely, but somehow pie himself instead. So well done, Goatee Douchebag!)
There's another rule too(which they obeyed in this video)... Pies in a newsreader using suit, only when the target is a man... When it's a woman, no, never, heresy... Casual clothes, always...
How long do people have to be on this forum before they understand not everyone likes the same thing? We're all here for one general reason, but otherwise everyone's going to be turned on by specific and unique things. There's some people who like mainstream wam and there's some people who like producer scenes with better coverage. There's no right way to enjoy your fetish, we don't need to have this conversation every time a woman on TV doesn't get completely covered.
SStuff said: Good to know that this clip follows both of the absolute rules for mainstream "news" pieings....
1) Pies must be constructed to ensure bad-to-terrible coverage. 2) Any male attempting to pie a female must be laughably awful at doing it. (I must say, I've never seen a dude try to pie someone from behind, and not only miss completely, but somehow pie himself instead. So well done, Goatee Douchebag!)
aha ha ha leave the pieing to the professionals fox
People are entitled to their opinions, yes of course. But let's please note that if someone here were to repeatedly issue the kind of sweeping denouncements of a WAM producer's entire body of work that people above make regarding ALL mainstream clips (and some of these folks have made a LOT of similar posts in the past, consistently shitting on mainstream scenes when they are discussed here), then they would find themselves under threat of being banned. But mainstream clips are considered fair game for endless, ridiculously exaggerated abuse, I guess.
Not one of the haters' so-called "universal rules" above (as elaborated by several different people in several different posts above) is universally true at all. I'm at work on a BIG photo post to demonstrate this; it should be up in a day or so.
I just can't believe how loudly and how badly a good number of folks here miss the point of mainstream scenes. It's similar to hardcore porn fans watching sex scenes in mainstream movies and critiquing them based on the standards of the porn industry: "Can you believe it? Those incompetent assholes had their cameras in the TOTALLY WRONG PLACES! Do they not understand the basics of shooting a sex scene? How could they possibly have shown us the actors' upper bodies at the moment of penetration? Not one single close-up of her wet, willing pussy or his throbbing, oversized cock! Also, get a load of how convincing the acting and plotlines were. Appalling! These people clearly have their priorities in all the wrong places."
[I would like to stress the above is a ANALOGY, and intended to be humorous as well as making a point. I am NOT saying all produced WAM videos are porn. Some producers here get VERY RILED UP by that suggestion, and it's NOT AT ALL what I'm saying here. I'm just using this as an easily understandable parallel example of applying super-specific sexual-preference demands to mainstream entertainment not designed to cater to such fetishistic interests.]
Not one of the haters' so-called "universal rules" above (as elaborated by several different people in several different posts above) is universally true at all. I'm at work on a BIG photo post to demonstrate this; it should be up in a day or so. For another ridiculous exaggeration: see my first post above to learn how one of the haters is so biased against mainstream WAM that he totally mispercieved the FACTS of what happened at the crux of the Rachel Bonnetta clip. (NOT talking about his opinion of the pie coverage, which is totally subjective, but the fact that he denies Rachel was even pied at all since he says the guy "missed [her] completey" and pied himself! Watch the video again, or look at my screencaps. At the very least, I think all sensible people can agree he actually did pie Rachel, not himself, however poor you might consider the coverage.)
For someone who's been so obsessed with me for 6+ years, to the point where you've stalked months (if not years) of my back posts to make a point (not to mention referencing my facial hair from 12 years ago, which is.... BEYOND creepy....).... You SURE have a skewed opinion of my relationship towards mainstream WAM. Check any of the many Latin TV posts over the years, where we complain about the idiot dudes but also praise the good scenes. Check my post from a week ago where I found a semi-rare clip. Check the LONG discussion we had when the ToS changed and I defended mainstream TV as a valid component of the UMD. (Compared to others who argued that a porn/fetish site should contain ONLY producer content, and those who still wished to discuss mainstream scenes should leave and start their own site. And yes, it started as a discussion of clips pulled from kids' shows, but it snowballed into an indictment of all things mainstream.)
Anyway, I'm sure you'll look over the last couple years of my post history and come back with an apology and BAHAHAHAHAHA.... Of course you won't. You'll keep trolling me, like you have for years. It's cool. "I'm a big boy and I can take it." But you might want to take the temperature of the room and realize you're alone in your repeated attempts to "WAM-shame" me, or catch me in some splitting-hairs "lie" that no one cares about but you.
That said, maybe I wasn't clear with my original post. ("I've never seen a dude try to pie someone from behind, and not only miss completely, but somehow pie himself instead.") I was referring to the hit at the end. The one at the beginning was shitty, but it did make contact. The second one.... Nope. And either he pied himself or another pie hit him at the same time, but dude definitely ended up with MORE pie than Rachel after that ridiculous attempt.
And since you love pics (many many MANY pics) I hope this photographic evidence will suffice. If you still think his pie made contact with any part of her, I don't know what to tell ya.
Side note: I've wasted 10X more energy that I cared to on this ridiculousness. I really hoped just ignoring you would end your diatribes. Clearly, it didn't, hence my one response. Feel free to keep arguing at me, but just understand it's gonna be a one-sided affair.
Pieromaniac_too: I SO wish SStuff would stop shitting all over some of the mainstream WAM clips that some of us here on the UMD actually enjoy.
SStuff: I SO wish Pieromaniac would shut the hell up and just let me peacefully shit all over some of the patently inferior mainstream WAM clips that some UMD members actually enjoy, for whatever bizarre reasons. Poor fools can't tell good WAM from bad!
Full version of my response for anyone with WAY too much time of their hands:
SStuff said: For someone who's been so obsessed with me for 6+ years, to the point where you've stalked months (if not years) of my back posts to make a point (not to mention referencing my facial hair from 12 years ago, which is.... BEYOND creepy....).... You SURE have a skewed opinion of my relationship towards mainstream WAM.
Anyway, I'm sure you'll look over the last couple years of my post history and come back with an apology and BAHAHAHAHAHA.... Of course you won't. You'll keep trolling me, like you have for years. It's cool. "I'm a big boy and I can take it."
Well, you're wrong, Mr. BAHAHAHA. I WILL apologize to you on the one point where you deserve it. I'm sorry, but I DID misunderstand which pie hit/non-hit you were talking about. If you bothered to look at my screencaps, I clearly thought you meant the first pie he slapped on Rachel. (I didn't even bother to show the second one, which I actually kind of forgot about.) I've deleted my most recent comments on the misunderstanding, but I cannot delete related comments from my earlier posts because they are over 24 hours old. If you'd cleared this up earlier, I would've struck those remarks from the record too. Not blaming you for not responding sooner, just saying that your semi-aloof "I'm not gonna dignify this clown with a response...umm...until I do" attitude comes with certain costs.
For the record, the public friction between you and I hasn't been going on anywhere near "6+ years." Just another one of your ridiculous exaggerations: if you don't have facts at your disposal, just make 'em up!
And more importantly for the record, I have hardly "stalked months (if not years) of [your] back posts to make a point." Don't flatter yourself. I have been a member for this forum ever since it started, 21 years ago, and I have read the vast majority of posts on here relevant to my pie-based interests, which UNFORTUNATELY FOR BOTH OF US is your main area of interest too. I also happen to have a very, very good memory. Not photographic, but way, way above average. My friends are amazed by it, my enemies dismayed. Again this is highly UNFORTUNATE FOR BOTH OF US. I honestly don't waste a second of my time digging through old posts hoping for little scraps to use against you... no, sadly, the many remarks you make that I find offensive are more or less burned in my brain. I would gladly wash them away if I could, but I can't. I really wish I could just block all of your remarks EXCEPT the ones about new material you've produced, which I do like to keep up on (and I've even made positive comments on the threads promoting several of your somewhat recent clips, including the latest one just yesterday and again today). I'm sure you, in turn, wish you could block ALL of my posts WITHOUT exception.
You can't believe it's true, but as I've said many times, I'm a fan of a lot of your work, and even used to buy a lot of it. Especially in what I'll call "The Goatee Years." And you've been, for better or worse, a prominent "personality" in your own videos more or less since Day One. So I've seen you in plenty of those old videos sporting said goatee. With that under consideration, how pray tell could it be "BEYOND CREEPY" that I know of and mention this facial hair, especially when you bring up goatees in your post above by mocking a quasi-celeb for having one? It's not exactly like you're a reclusive Howard Hughes type and I've been spying on you. Wouldn't any fan who had old videos of yours from a certain time period know about your old goatee? What is so taboo about bringing it up? (I think you're just embarrassed to have sported facial hair that you now consider an Emblem of Douchebaggery.)
You're determined to paint me as a stalker, but I'm really just a guy with a painfully good memory who loves your WAM work and is profoundly annoyed by your grumpy-old-man "you kids get outta my yard with your inferior WAM substitutes" attitude. You can call me grumpy too, if you like. I won't disagree. But please note I'm no longer "grumpy" on any of your own threads, nor those of other producers... my grumpiness is now ONLY provoked by the times when you yourself get grumpy about mainstream WAM (yep, I'd argue it's pretty damn grumpy to say that ALL "news pies" are bad to terrible). And sure, as you say, you like SOME specific instances of mainstream WAM -- and you make money by selling compilations of it -- but you also still piss all over the majority of mainstream WAM stuff, which you clearly HATE. You rail on us, the general membership of the UMD, over and over and over about being "spoiled" and "ultra-picky" but those adjectives also describe perfectly how you act toward mainstream WAM, especially considering it wasn't designed for fetishists and doesn't owe us anything.
You're the guy, after all, who said the Demi Lovato sliming -- near-universally adored by WAM fans -- was only so-so. You're the guy who above says that ALL "news" pieings (by context including all sports and entertainment news) totally suck, by dint of certain "universal rules," which I aim to demonstrate are bullshit with an upcoming photo post. You're the Prosecuting Attorney who's argued that all "news" pies are "bad to terrible," while I'll serve as the shaggy DA, trying to punch holes in the set of irrefutable laws you've postulated as governing all such scenes. It'll be fun!!!
cicada said: You guys always miss the point with mainstream clips. I do not dream that they were like Rich or Anglefan's scenes. The whole point is that they are REAL...that's what makes them great. They are real situations and circumstances that feature real reactions. They're not fabricated and play-acted and produced to suit your preferences or my preferences. Most of the time they are going to be imperfect in many ways.
The reality is the magic, and I've always been amazed that most guys just don't care if something's fake. For me, once you lose that tether to the reality of a scene, it's useless.
WOW!!! Cicada, I could not agree with you more. I hate the fake reactions when a producer says, OK give me a scared look, or give me a humiliated look. Its not realistic, and I don't like that either. Stay tuned for my videos, coming really soon. I actually interview the models throughout the scene. Everything they say is completely 100% unscripted. I want natural reactions, straight from their mouth, not mine. I only ask that they do their hair and makeup and that they give me like 15 seconds after the pie hit before they wipe there face. Many of the models never wipe their face, and NONE of them get hit with water in between, so if a producer tells you that they water the model down in between the slime and the pies, its because they want to. STAY TUNED!!! I WILL BE RELEASING MY VIDEOS REALLY SOON!!!
pieromaniac_too said: I agree, Nein. Rich says he's not saying any more, and if he sticks to that this will be the last I say as well.
OH I doubt that Pieromaniac, I haven't gotten in this post yet!!! First of all, let me just give a bit of respect to all the PRODUCERS that actually put out their own money and contribute THERE own work to this forum. I always supported them. Now that I ALSO put my own money out to contribute MY OWN WORK, I have a new appreciation for all the producers who are willing to contribute. You should appreciate them, not argue with them. If you are arguing with them, you obviously have never paid to have a model get pied in the face. Having said that. If you think that Rachel Bonnetta got Pied in the face, than I am wasting my money pieing all the models that I hire. Let me point out that the pies that they were using were Lemon Meringue pies. That is about the worst pie anyone could ever choose to pie someone in the face. They SUCK!!! Secondly, I was going to make a gif of that pie in the face that you think Rachel got in her face. I have recorded it, blown it up, slowed it down, etc..... I was going to make a gif, but the quality of the hit isn't even worth it. She got hit in the top of her forehead, not her face. If she got hit in the face, where is the Meringue on her face???? There isn't any? WHY???? Because it didn't hit her face!!!! The lemon that you see on her face was the spatter that hit her face from the forehead hit. GET OVER YOURSELF!!!! I'm not expecting you to agree with me, but I wanted to let RICH know that I agree with him. Frankly, I'm surprised that this post has gone as long as it has, and has gotten as many responses as it has, because the Pie Hit that you are calling it, is not even worth more than one response. I'm done now. Not giving anymore input to such a terrible hit. Just wanted to post my two cents worth. If you still think your right. WHATEVER!!! I frankly DON"T GIVE A S***!!!