Perhaps one of you is a die-hard Comic Con-type fan/nerd out there who could answer this for me:
I have never once watched an "X-Men" movie. Yet, I have seen (for free, rented from library ) each of the Marvel comic Avengers, standalone Captain America, standalone Thor, standalone Iron Man, Spiderman (except for the two Andrew Garfield ones, just the 3 Tobey-Maguire ones and the one Tom Holland "Homecoming" one), & Ant-Man except for Black Panther & Thor: Ragnorak.
Aren't the X-Men supposed to be in the same "Marvel universe" as the Avengers & the Guardians of the Galaxy?
So, why weren't X-Men invited to save the world in "Avengers: Infinity Wars" Am I missing anything by not watching any X-Men movies? I've already spent enough time watching the 16 or so Marvel comic movies.
I see how all the Marvel movies that I just mentioned I have watched "tie together" with their little post-credit teasers.
So, who "keeps track" of all these Marvel universes? Who is the "grandmaster" of saying which stories & movies are "canon" and which are not?
Zoidberg's Evil Twin said: Perhaps one of you is a die-hard Comic Con-type fan/nerd out there who could answer this for me:
I have never once watched an "X-Men" movie. Yet, I have seen (for free, rented from library ) each of the Marvel comic Avengers, standalone Captain America, standalone Thor, standalone Iron Man, Spiderman (except for the two Andrew Garfield ones, just the 3 Tobey-Maguire ones and the one Tom Holland "Homecoming" one), & Ant-Man except for Black Panther & Thor: Ragnorak.
Aren't the X-Men supposed to be in the same "Marvel universe" as the Avengers & the Guardians of the Galaxy?
So, why weren't X-Men invited to save the world in "Avengers: Infinity Wars" Am I missing anything by not watching any X-Men movies? I've already spent enough time watching the 16 or so Marvel comic movies.
I see how all the Marvel movies that I just mentioned I have watched "tie together" with their little post-credit teasers.
So, who "keeps track" of all these Marvel universes? Who is the "grandmaster" of saying which stories & movies are "canon" and which are not?
Nerds: proceed at your own risk...
Ok, so down the rabbit hole we go.
1. You are correct in saying that the X-men, Spiderman, and the Avengers are all the same universe.
HOWEVER
Marvel sold the right to SpiderMan movies to Sony and only recently re-acquired them in time for Captain America: Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming.
Marvel in the early 2000s sold the rights to FOX for X-Men movies.
It wasn't until 2006 (I think) when Disney acquired Marvel and let them have their own movie studio. They made Iron Man in 2007 and since it and the sequels did so well, subsequently received infinity dollars for making movies.
The problem was that Marvel Studios (Disney) couldn't make X-Men movies, because FOX owned the movie rights. (Pls note this is no longer an issue as Disney recently bought everything fox except the network and News station)
But Marvel's "cinematic universe" already pretty much had it's own story going for it, and they wrote "mutants" like the X-men out of the canon. Instead they repurposed "The Inhumans" as the mutant like force in the world.
Spider Man was never a mutant so it was easier to reincorporate him into the "MCU", also Spider Man was a quintessential member of the Avengers at times.
There is the possibility of the X-Men appearing later in the movie universe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Future X-Men movies will probably continue to exist in their own universe.
Also, isn't your "evil twin" from Universe B supposed to be Purple?
Ok. Good. Then I can happily do without ever watching an X-Men or Wolverine movie without worrying about losing any context while watching the Avengers movies.
Wait a minute... and what about The Fantastic Four? Where do THEY fit into all this? And Deadpool?
Also, good call on the purple, Potatoman-J. But, I am SO evil that I disguise myself as my good twin just to fool people like you.
Check out my newest disguise, as entertainer Bobby Bittman.
FOX owns Deadpool and the Fantastic Four as well. So by proxy, Disney/Marvel NOW owns them too. It's more likely to see the Fantastic Four enter into the Marvel MCU because of their involvement in things like the Infinity Gauntlet than Deadpool who is a mutant.
Its increasingly likely that we'll see mutants going forward with the next phase(s) of the MCU film schedule, now that it's all more or less back under the same roof. Not sure how they're going to resolve the whole Quicksilver thing, though.
Unless I am misunderstanding the whole situation, Marvel doesn't really have the rights back to Spider-man. From what I understand, it is more of a loan sort of situation. After Sony failed multiple times to reboot and make money off from what should be the most marketable character in all of comics, they went to Marvel and asked for help. An agreement was made that Marvel would work with them on future Spider-man movies, but would then gain the rights to use the character in the cinematic universe as well.
I will admit that I can be mistaken on that, but that is how I understood the situation.
Plonk said: Its increasingly likely that we'll see mutants going forward with the next phase(s) of the MCU film schedule, now that it's all more or less back under the same roof. Not sure how they're going to resolve the whole Quicksilver thing, though.
I'm not following you, they just killed him in the movie he debuted in with the MCU. Also, I think in that universe they made him and Scarlet Witch be genetically modified by Hydra or some shit. They also put a serious leash on Wanda's powers, but then she's been retconned more than Jean Grey has died.
mhalversaid: Unless I am misunderstanding the whole situation, Marvel doesn't really have the rights back to Spider-man. From what I understand, it is more of a loan sort of situation. After Sony failed multiple times to reboot and make money off from what should be the most marketable character in all of comics, they went to Marvel and asked for help. An agreement was made that Marvel would work with them on future Spider-man movies, but would then gain the rights to use the character in the cinematic universe as well.
I will admit that I can be mistaken on that, but that is how I understood the situation.
I believe you are correct because of the release of the Venom movie which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the MCU.