Maybe Chainsaw John will put his penis away now.

They would have to pry the bacon from my cold, dead, arthritic, hands!

Another forced liberal agenda.
It is actually difficult to be vegetarian and healthy. Like most of the population vegetarians are deficient in magnesium because it is not replenished to the soils. Long time back in my teens I tried vegetarian and latter vegan and found myself sickly, weak and slow mentally.
There is knowledge and techniques to raise animals and recycle waste. These are the old rediscovered techniques agriculture.
Meat consumption will not cause cancer. Its in the process. By burning the fats and browning the meat by cook creates carcinogens as well as processed meats like ham, bacon ect. contain nitrates that form nitrosamines = cancer and inflammation. Accelerated aging and chronic disease are the result of inflammation.

A tasty bacon alternative. Side pork. Get some unrefined sea salt, I like Himalayan and herbs and spices of choice. Place in a baking pan and cook on low covered with foil to contain the aromatics. Or on low heat in fry pan and cover. Do not brown. And yer health is good and it taste good too. There are so many herbs and spices to choose from at the supermarket. Take advantage of their antioxidant and medicinal properties by making food taste great.

I eat a fair amount of meat. 2 to even 3 pounds a day consider I do a form of skilled labour. Most of my calories come from protein and fat and I am not fat. I have more energy than I did before. After working an 8 hr manufacturing job I still have energy to get a few things done after work. I do not consume wheat, rye , barley or oats that is what makes the difference. We are not designed for grain.

For animal rights extremist. Have you ever seen what a pack of wolves does to a Moose calf? Yes, but that is life. Without wolves and other predators to regulate the grazers the trees would suffer. Save the trees right ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYWYU5V8JOo

poly face farm. They make 1 acre produce like 4 acers by bio diversity.
I might have to raise rabbits if the tax comes round. My sister has 10 chickens.

Meh, I've had cancer twice already. Any way I look at it, I'm boned. I'll keep my bacon AND eat your pork side. Funny enough, a vegetarian or vegan diet at this point in time would actually kill me. My body is unable to break down and digest most leafy and rigid green vegetables. Root veggies like potatoes and carrots don't bother me (probably because they're mostly starch). However, they are mostly worthless for nutrition too.

So it really doesn't matter what I do in my case, I'm fucked no matter what I eat. I'll be damned if I give up food for that Soylent shit or an elemental diet. No thanks, I've been close to death enough times, it's not so bad.

Not very liberal to try and force people to change diet, but then most vegans I know hate Peta more than us meat-eaters do, for giving their movement a bad name.

Over here Peta are demanding that one of the major bakeries, Greggs, should introduce vegan sausage rolls. TBH if Greggs think the demand is there they may well do so but if so the decision will be commercial, nothing to do with Peta's ranting. There are increasing numbers of younger people shunning animal-based food sources, so there is a market there, and in any healthy capitalist society market demand will be catered to. We're a very long way from there being a majority of non-meat-eaters though, that's probably a couple of generations away, and in the mean time lab-grown meat is being developed at a frenetic pace, which may well resolve the whole issue anyway - tasty meat with no need to kill any animals to produce it.

Killing those nasty animals is the best part though!

Most people have been disconnected from where food comes. I have slaughtered rabbits and chickens for food from a livestock exchange. They were well cared for. It is a shock to experience at first, but it is a part of life. The animal responds to you and ones consciousness. Having a clear mind and gratitude towards the animal helps calm them. I said my thank you in my own way. Of course the moment of there is a brief struggle. There are some simple techniques to make suffering minimal and shut the brain down quick. There is a sense when the life force leaves the vessel.

Everybody should take a tour of a farm at least once just to get a sense. We come from this earth and would serve us better to know it. Chef Jamie Oliver did some things with kids some time back like that to get them eating real food. There grades and behaviours greatly improved for starters.

The future? I feel we may transition as we evolve to a plant based diet. But it must me nutritionally dense and high in minerals. For synthetic meat there are possibilities but the big companies that have there hand in it now are going to make a piece of "product" not something life giving.

GOOD for Peta. Finally - a group with the HEROIC COURAGE to expose the TRUTH of the holocaust of factory farming.
I am so sick of braindead conspiracytards preaching about "waking people up to DA TROOF" if one doesn't agree with their IMAGINARY BULLSHIT stories involving vague nameless organizations (e.g. "NWO") doing some VAGUE UNDEFINED "harm".

Yet something INCREDIBLY SIMPLE and PRACTICAL, like going vegetarian or buying non-animal tested products, they WON'T talk about.

I have ZERO respect for ANYbody's job or career or reputation (no matter how famous) and their opinion on sexual assault or sexual harrassment or ANY OTHER negative event if THEY don't give up a luxury or an urge which THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BY LAW with HUGE benefit to someone else (animals inside factory farms).

If you can't make the TRIVIALLY small "sacrifice" of going vegetarian,
in spite of the ENORMOUS PREVENTION of FORCING a new NONCONSENTING cow or chicken or turkey or pig into existence,
then I don't have to agree or care about your belief in the existence of "the patriarchy" or "culture hates women" or "culture hates men" or any other VAGUE culture/society hates/wants/is responsible for anything.

Meat-eaters should consider themselves lucky not to be put into prison for life,
the way the nonhuman animals are, or the way humans are for personal decisions
that are NOT forced upon anyone else.

Scumbag fascist mass-murdering Phillipine President Duterte advocates MURDERING drug sellers and drug consumers, even though NOBODY is tying somebody else down and forcing marijuana or booze or tobacco or cocaine down their throat.

I got ZERO sympathy from bleeding heart crybabies (conservative or liberal)
crying about HYPOTHETICAL restrictions on their liberties, but say and do NOTHING to REDUCE the LOSS OF LIBERTY of an animal CONFINED FOR LIFE inside a factory farm.

Or they whine about ONE dog (see Vegan Gains YouTube channel) being fed a vegan diet. Maybe not the best diet. But, not a WORD against the forced breeding and killing of 100 cows chickens and pigs. It's either that, or euthanize the dog.

Bleeding heart crybabies go on and on about how natural evolution produces lions and dogs who eat meat. Yeah. So? Evolution & nature PRODUCE EVERYTHING!
EVERYTHING that has EVER EXISTED - from humans producing airplanes and agriculture and Marxism and communism and capitalism and WAM videos -
EVERYTHING good or bad - EVERY genetic defect - EVERY human URGE -
from the urge to build an empire or a nation or feminism or men's rights or libertarianism or animal rights activism or gun rights or antigun - is caused by NATURAL atoms NATURAL proteins inside the human brain.

Evolution causes cows and chickens and pigs to NOT WANT TO BE CONFINED AND DIE.

Go vegan until we can perfect and mass produce biocultured meat.

And, no - NONE of this calculation implies that I (I can speak ONLY for myself, not anyone else) will "always choose the human animal over the nonhuman animal".

Wrong. Many times I would choose the human animal over the nonhuman animal.

e.g. Police dogs. If I could reverse time, I'd go back to the 1960s and give all the black people in the Southern USA machine guns to blow away all the police dogs (and police humans).

e.g. War. Nonhuman animals get killed in war, too. Yet, if given ONLY the information that if we don't blow up or invade country X, 100 million animals will continue to suffer and die, whereas if we do blow up or invade country X, 60 million will,
then I go with the war and save/prevent 40 million.

Check out the many ANTINATALIST YouTube channels.
Childfree diANe comes to mind. Although I DO strongly disagree with her anti-pornography position. HOWEVER, I have not seen her make a video about that.
She seems to stick to the antinatalist stuff, which is good.

I've show Jason here my way of organizing all these choices/decisions/logistics of ethical decision-making and how to code false choices (independent choices) from real choices (dependent choices).

Yawn. All the scare caps in the world aren't going to convince me that animals have natural rights. Other than the right to taste good!