What's the most important / enjoyable / arousing part of a WAM video?
Is it the section where the completely clean victim gets messy, or is it watching them moving about and doing things while they are messy?
I've deliberately made this a binary choice in the poll to get an overview, but feel free to elaborate in comments, for example do you like seeing someone who's still clean outside but you know they've had their pants or boots well filled, it's just not showing yet, or seeing someone moving about and doing things who's partly messy but still has clean areas, like someone who's sat in a cake while wearing a skirt or dress, still looks perfect at the front but whenever they turn round there's a massive messy splodge on the seat of their outfit?
What's really cool about these questions is experiencing them both. Because when you add different mess and elements each questions can be more enjoyable than the other for example gunge may be fun doing things while messy "victim" (tv show style)
But water can be more enjoyable messy from clean (falling into a pool after eating)
I have to agree. To help elaborate, I'll try my best to explain each
1. Getting clean to messy - I like clothed AND naked WAM, but in particular, I like starting clothed. So seeing the initial outfit to begin with is important. It builds anticipation and suspense. There is the thoughts going through my head of "What is it going to look like when this good connects with these clothes? What is the texture going to look like how is the recipient going to react? How would I react!?"
2. What they're doing while messy - Ok, now they are messy what are they doing? Do they hate it? Are they playing in it, are they turned on. To touch on your bit about the clean outside, but messy inside; I LOVE that. In particular Katy (Edelweiss), Ariel, and Jayce are some of the few that I know who have done little shorts where they have put just a bit of goo in their underwear and then gone into public to shop. That is INCREDIBLY sexy to me. Like if I were out to dinner with a partner, knowing she had some pudding down in her panties, I'd be completely consumed by that. Finishing up our meal and how we'd both react when the waiter asks us about dessert.
So to me, these are like two halves of the same coin, the yin and yang of WAM if you will. It's too hard for me personally to say I prefer one MORE than the other. And if a scene does one really well, but not the other, it does way less for me than one that gets both the way I want it.
I'm sorry that doesn't give you a definitive answer, but I hope it at least explains why.
If you're asking with reference for your productions, my advice is to keep doing what you do. You have a great variety in what you do. Originally, I didn't like your content as much because it was mostly industrial clothing etc. But as you expanded into different outfits, expanding what you do with certain scenes in levels of sexuality, etc. I've come to appreciate your content exceedingly more. For instance: the gunge scene with Honeysuckle in the PVC maid outfit is one of my favorite scenes OF ALL TIME. Keep doing what you love, and keep experimenting!
For me response from the person getting messy is really important. As I have a fetish for the feel of mess on myself I like to see others aroused by things that would arouse me. As I have other kinks and enjoy topping others I also like to see BDSM elements and others squirming . I do like to see filled underwear right near the start. Seeing evidence of that such as mess running out of underwear and down the inside of a thigh is very arousing, seeing evidence of arousal is also a biggy. Although I like to see filled underwear right near the start I then find it more arousing if clothes go back on so for example Jess unzipped pulled down knickers filled then jeans back up and zipped is arousing. Like others I suppose the answer is both them getting messy and what they do when messy. My least favourite thing would be someone going from clean to covered in a few seconds followed by a quick orgasm. I like variety, novelty, response from the gungee and gunger, an idea of what it would feel and smell like if I were there. I want to be able to imagine myself and other WAMers I'm friends with as part of the scene. So for example a scene by Mike no mic with mud is good a scene by Dungeon Master with boiler suits and bottles of fizz pouring into them also great. Having said that I've never actually bought a video.
Really interesting question! I voted getting messy, but there are great things about both
I've had drinks at a bar with cake batter in my knickers and that was amazing to experience but I don't think I'd buy a scene like that. For watching, I like a lot of mess and a destroyed outfit,
I prefere the filled but unseen, it doesn't film well I suppose. Videos of the pour do it for me but not a sloppy pour getting it on the outside of the clothing....at first anyways. I have a fantasy of wearing pvc knickers and filling them with a whole gateaux in the back and a trifle in the front. Wearing waterproof trousers tucked in wellies and going for a nice walk here in the Farmers fields. Maybe add a carton of custard while on that walk and some exercises like running, star jumps, climb over gates, rolling on the ground while all that mess is inside. It won't make great viewing for most I would think but then to come home to have the contents of what's in my wellies poured over me head. I guess as a wam girl it's the feeling not the visuals I guess
Cinq and Soug said: I prefere the filled but unseen, it doesn't film well I suppose. Videos of the pour do it for me but not a sloppy pour getting it on the outside of the clothing....at first anyways. I have a fantasy of wearing pvc knickers and filling them with a whole gateaux in the back and a trifle in the front. Wearing waterproof trousers tucked in wellies and going for a nice walk here in the Farmers fields. Maybe add a carton of custard while on that walk and some exercises like running, star jumps, climb over gates, rolling on the ground while all that mess is inside. It won't make great viewing for most I would think but then to come home to have the contents of what's in my wellies poured over me head. I guess as a wam girl it's the feeling not the visuals I guess
This is exactly what i would have wrote! Except it takes me too long, with 1 finger typing
For me it's a bit of everything, but I generally prefer getting messy from clean & I am sure I'm not the only one, but we'd always tweak how we take the mess, sometimes we just can't wait for it, we may squirm & take it gradually & so forth. I remember 1 of the earliest times I got gunged, as I wore a jacket, can't mind if was a dress or leather jacket but as the shirt/blouse underneath wasn't covered in any gunge but I was covered elsewhere, I took another gunging so nothing was missed. The arousal elements didn't really kick in till I started doing with female company.
DungeonMasterOne said: What's the most important / enjoyable / arousing part of a WAM video?
Is it the section where the completely clean victim gets messy, or is it watching them moving about and doing things while they are messy?
I've deliberately made this a binary choice in the poll to get an overview, but feel free to elaborate in comments, for example do you like seeing someone who's still clean outside but you know they've had their pants or boots well filled, it's just not showing yet, or seeing someone moving about and doing things who's partly messy but still has clean areas, like someone who's sat in a cake while wearing a skirt or dress, still looks perfect at the front but whenever they turn round there's a massive messy splodge on the seat of their outfit?
Dungeon Master: get ready for my upcoming custom I ordered through Most Wam. It's a chocolate pudding pie fight in business suits where the mess begins inside their clothes along with pie sitting before the common traditions of a choreographed pie fight ensue. Supposed to be filmed on 12/15/21. I can't wait and I expect you'll be pleased as well.
Cinq and Soug said: I prefere the filled but unseen, it doesn't film well I suppose. Videos of the pour do it for me but not a sloppy pour getting it on the outside of the clothing....at first anyways. I have a fantasy of wearing pvc knickers and filling them with a whole gateaux in the back and a trifle in the front. Wearing waterproof trousers tucked in wellies and going for a nice walk here in the Farmers fields. Maybe add a carton of custard while on that walk and some exercises like running, star jumps, climb over gates, rolling on the ground while all that mess is inside. It won't make great viewing for most I would think but then to come home to have the contents of what's in my wellies poured over me head. I guess as a wam girl it's the feeling not the visuals I guess
Will reply to the rest of the thread as time allows but just had to say, that sounds absolutely heavenly!
We've actually done a couple of scenes with two of our people in waterproofs over swimsuits or catsuits, where they start off in just the spandex, and a slice of defrosted gateaux followed by half a can of custard goes down their backs inside their suits, and then they pull the waterproofs on to do the scene. You can't see the spreading mess but you know it's there, squidging about as they move. In one if the scenes, with Rosemary and Susie, they pulled their waterproof trousers on then sat down on chairs to put their wellies back on, and both noticably reacted as the mixed gloop that had slipped down to their bums went squish inside their clothes as they sat in it.
I still like your old idea of a wammer's walk, where a bunch of like-minded folk meet up somewhere secluded, wearing waterproofs tucked into wellies, everyone pours their mess of choice into whatever they're wearing under the waterproofs, or even the participants do it to each other, and then all go for a nice walk through a wood or around some fields. Perhaps ending with a mud wallow just to top things off. Imagine trying to cross a trecherous muddy area while steadily increasing amounts of custard slip down inside your trousers and into your wellies, making them slippery on your feet as you walk?
Fair and valid point! And TBH that's probably closest to my own view, I like seeing the messing happening but also like to watch the girls continuing to "do stuff" while well covered in mess.
Curiouspaints said: What's really cool about these questions is experiencing them both. Because when you add different mess and elements each questions can be more enjoyable than the other for example gunge may be fun doing things while messy "victim" (tv show style)
But water can be more enjoyable messy from clean (falling into a pool after eating)
Interesting take I'd not considered. I usually prefer slow wettings than fast ones, but I do see what you mean.
Potatoman-J said:
Caution said: Option 3: Equally important
I have to agree. To help elaborate, I'll try my best to explain each
1. Getting clean to messy - I like clothed AND naked WAM, but in particular, I like starting clothed. So seeing the initial outfit to begin with is important. It builds anticipation and suspense. There is the thoughts going through my head of "What is it going to look like when this good connects with these clothes? What is the texture going to look like how is the recipient going to react? How would I react!?"
Agree with that, that's why we always take lots of still shots of the girls from all angles before we roll the video cameras, and include those stills in the downloads, so people can examine and savour the outfits in detail before any actual WAM happens. TBH sometimes the shots that work best for me are when the entirely clean girls are standing, dressed for the scene, next to the table laden with what they're about to use. They do say the brain is the most important sexual organ.
Potatoman-J said: 2. What they're doing while messy - Ok, now they are messy what are they doing? Do they hate it? Are they playing in it, are they turned on. To touch on your bit about the clean outside, but messy inside; I LOVE that. In particular Katy (Edelweiss), Ariel, and Jayce are some of the few that I know who have done little shorts where they have put just a bit of goo in their underwear and then gone into public to shop. That is INCREDIBLY sexy to me. Like if I were out to dinner with a partner, knowing she had some pudding down in her panties, I'd be completely consumed by that. Finishing up our meal and how we'd both react when the waiter asks us about dessert.
We'd never do it in public because I suspect our messes would leak through too soon, but I do like the idea of hidden mess. Toying with doing a scene where one model, fully dressed over a swimsuit, takes her top off, has a fair bit of mess poured into her swimsuit front and back, then puts her top back on, neatens herself up, and then has to open all the cans and cartons of stuff that she's going to use on the other model, and all the while she's doing that the poured-in mess is spreading and leaking and wetting through her clothes from within. Tricky to work out camera angles, suspect we'd need a wide angle camera mounted under the table to film her lower trunk and crotch as she worked, to see the spreading wetness and stains starting to come through, but could be fun to do.
Potatoman-J said: So to me, these are like two halves of the same coin, the yin and yang of WAM if you will. It's too hard for me personally to say I prefer one MORE than the other. And if a scene does one really well, but not the other, it does way less for me than one that gets both the way I want it.
I'm sorry that doesn't give you a definitive answer, but I hope it at least explains why.
That's OK, always interesting to read what other people think, everyone's take on this fetish is unique, there isn't any right or wrong way to do it.
Potatoman-J said: If you're asking with reference for your productions, my advice is to keep doing what you do. You have a great variety in what you do. Originally, I didn't like your content as much because it was mostly industrial clothing etc. But as you expanded into different outfits, expanding what you do with certain scenes in levels of sexuality, etc. I've come to appreciate your content exceedingly more. For instance: the gunge scene with Honeysuckle in the PVC maid outfit is one of my favorite scenes OF ALL TIME. Keep doing what you love, and keep experimenting!
***blush*** I guess I definitely owe you another drink in Vegas for that!
But thank you, very glad you like what we do. I decided a long time ago I'd only ever shoot things I actually enjoyed the look of, as chassing $$$ just results in mediocre work, but that still allows a huge field, and my tastes have certainly expanded over the years - when I was a teenager, at a high school surrounded by girls in knee-length uniform skirts, I only liked women in trousers, think I was in my 20s before I came to realise that knee-length skirts are also very sexy, especially when worn into mess.
I'll pass on your comment about her Sludge Maid scene next time we're chatting, she'll be delighted!
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DungeonMasterOne said: I still like your old idea of a wammer's walk, where a bunch of like-minded folk meet up somewhere secluded, wearing waterproofs tucked into wellies, everyone pours their mess of choice into whatever they're wearing under the waterproofs, or even the participants do it to each other, and then all go for a nice walk through a wood or around some fields. Perhaps ending with a mud wallow just to top things off. Imagine trying to cross a trecherous muddy area while steadily increasing amounts of custard slip down inside your trousers and into your wellies, making them slippery on your feet as you walk?
Now this sounds like a dream come true, like minded people squelching along together!! Love the idea of someone else choosing what mess you get! Genius Below is a pic from a few years ago, of mine and gfs wellies, before we went for a walk, and hers after the walk!
I vote for starting clean. There is something incredibly exciting about taking time to dress smartly - (in my case, as a cross dresser, 'en femme') - properly made up, with nice jewelry and a cute hairstyle, knowing that in a short while all this effort will go for nothing as your beautiful outfit is totally trashed. It is the juxtaposition of looking the best one can with the subsequent ruination that is the turn on.
Well, I was not in time to vote in the poll but my favourite part of WAM is getting messy from completely clean look, because my most enjoyable / arousing part are the anticipation, the humilliation and the surpise/ shock/ disgusting facial expresion or reactions of the "victim"