While watching The Love Boat, something I have not done in a long time, I catch Audrey Landers getting cake dumped on her.

Seeing it I realize why people have such a low opinion of what they call mainstream WAM. I guess when it came to slapstick, there was a reason why the three stooges where the kings.

The episode was from 1985. The title was Accident, Racer's edge, Villa, All for One.

I think mainstream WAM can have something that even the best producers can't pull off: _context_. You see these characters being developed over time, sometimes over seasons, so it means so much more when it's someone you almost feel you know. Maybe they deserve it. Maybe they don't. At least you have an opinion. Some of the better producers try to give us some plot; I'm a big fan of Messygirl's "The customer is Always Right" series, which, in many ways, is really a doubling down of the plot of some of their early videos that were quiet good, like "Dinner's on Sarah." As for newer sites, TrotterPM's WAMerica videos try to add a bit of context. And I praise these sites for it, but there's no way one can add a character developed over seasons into this. Or is there? Lol.

On the other hand, sometimes a model with lots of personality can really carry it. I'm always going to say London Andrews and Mai Ly if you look for examples.

But I wish we had running WAM shows with recurring characters...not just the model's personalities, because it really helps to have villains who you love to hate, whether they are defeating he protagonists or getting what's coming to them, and I don't think anyone wants to hate on the models.

Anyone else feel this way? A long series of videos with recurring characters and maybe guest stars is in order?

I think you're absolutely right, which is why for me all things being equal, a mainstream scene will always outweigh a producer's. However, it's a rare thing when a mainstream show produces the level of mess as just about any producer, so on that level it does help even things out a bit.

I liken it to a horror movie. The deaths mean so much more when they've taken the time to develop the character.

Thanks for the shout out. I try quite hard to give my viewers as much context as I can cram into 8-10 minute scenes. Contextless wam is meaningless to me in most cases. So when you watch a wamerica film, the characters have very little depth, that's true. But they always deserve it.

I always love mainstream wam, Because it's virtually always deserved.

My office based customs with Messy Jessie are chronological (though Jessie does't post them chronologically as she is normal and has a life!) , and build on previous episodes and have ongoing characters. I have also tried to put character development in there. For example Lara's character is on an arc as she starts off as the one who just doesn't 'get' how Jessie, Cherry etc can enjoy messing other girls up so much. This trait has stayed consistent through my office stories and has had an impact on storyline etc. In my head although the characters have the same names as the models, they are definitely not the models, and are characters.
they don't act in the same way as I have Cherry and Jessie act in any non-office based scripts I write where Cherry and Jessie etc are meant to be playing themselves

I like the idea of an ongoing baddie, as Myds mentioned above. I had never thought of having such a one dimensional character before but thinking about it, it's perfect. Like in the wwe plots etc, it gives us someone to hope gets pied etc.

One reason I started doing Messy Jessie customs was i adored the office sketches, but really struggled when what happened in one plot contradicted something said in another one! This is ridiculous & I am very aware it is but like others have said, I love the idea of wam series with ongoing 'characters' not just isolated sketches

Below is a pic from my latest office story. New girl Erica joins the cast

I agree with the plot is a must for me to buy a video... Besides the full use of real pies.

I cannot find it, any help?