Found this Youtube video for the original vol of Piefightgirls back when it was just called Amateur Pies. I know that the first two scenes are still available to buy from both the vidown store and the UMD store. However, from 0:59 in the video to the end are scenes that I have never found before. Are these scenes available to purchase from anywhere or are they lost? Would like to know.
9/1/21, 6:31pm: Undeleted: Youtube vid seems like trailer snippets compiled into a 1+ minute youtube clip. Clip mentions producer (Amateur Pies). Poster gives credit for the clips he recognizes and is asking for help identifying the others. Clips are so short and seem promotional, and credit is given, so doesn't seem like a copyright violation. Inbox MM for difference of opinion.
All good, but around 0:40 and 1:15 are pretty great IMHO
With some of these old scenes, you have to wonder what would happen if a producer really, really tried to mimic this style for the sake of the nostalgia. Like, the camera angles, the grainy image, the types of the pies, etc.
I'm certain that it's too much work, and I have to imagine no producer would go for it because it would probably be a bust, but makes you wonder just what would happen, at least just a bit.
Then again, I get bummed when some producers continue to release old vault content in SD, soooooo yeah
JazzTalker said: All good, but around 0:40 and 1:15 are pretty great IMHO
With some of these old scenes, you have to wonder what would happen if a producer really, really tried to mimic this style for the sake of the nostalgia. Like, the camera angles, the grainy image, the types of the pies, etc.
I'm certain that it's too much work, and I have to imagine no producer would go for it because it would probably be a bust, but makes you wonder just what would happen, at least just a bit.
Then again, I get bummed when some producers continue to release old vault content in SD, soooooo yeah
The quality of the pies used in these old videos still holds up decades later IMO. The camera angles and video quality definitely leave much to be desired though. Yet, for some reason, I really do enjoy these old WAM videos from the 90s. I dunno, I guess I just love the amateur feel of them and also looking at how WAM has evolved since the 90s. And I'm only 21 years old so I have no nostalgia related to any of this, I just find it fasinating.
I started sending money orders to Neil/AmateurPies in the 90s.... based SOLELY on a B&W still pic of the blonde at :40, covered in cream & crust.... which appeared in an old Mafia newsletter (along with Neil's PO Box), sent snail mail by Hurley Coward.
Talk about nostalgia! I suspect 80% of that previous sentence won't even make sense if you're under the age of 30. (Like John Mulaney's bit about "I called a Blockbuster Video on our landline phone" is now a phrase as antiquated as "Grandma used to ride her bike to the corner store to shoot jacks!")
That said, the quality of the above (pirated) video IS terrible, because the uploader posted a dub of a dub at 240p. The original Neil stuff from the 1990s on videotape still isn't great shakes, but it looks alright when converted to digital at 480p with a decent bitrate. I'd talk to the current owner. All those super old clips should still be available. Most of them go on for a good while longer.... The girls in the tub have a lot of messy back-n-forth, the girl with her head in the pie gets clobbered many times over, etc etc....
The quality of the pies used in these old videos still holds up decades later IMO. The camera angles and video quality definitely leave much to be desired though. Yet, for some reason, I really do enjoy these old WAM videos from the 90s. I dunno, I guess I just love the amateur feel of them and also looking at how WAM has evolved since the 90s. And I'm only 21 years old so I have no nostalgia related to any of this, I just find it fasinating.
That's a really good point. The pies are still pies and still look great, it's just the video itself that looks a little aged.
For me, it's always a little weird to go back in time--I remember great scenes from not-so-long ago that looked great (I thought) at the time, and look great in my memory, and then I actually see the clip again however many years later and go "That's still a great hit but wow is that video not great."
SlapstickStuff said: I started sending money orders to Neil/AmateurPies in the 90s.... based SOLELY on a B&W still pic of the blonde at :40, covered in cream & crust.... which appeared in an old Mafia newsletter (along with Neil's PO Box), sent snail mail by Hurley Coward.
Talk about nostalgia! I suspect 80% of that previous sentence won't even make sense if you're under the age of 30. (Like John Mulaney's bit about "I called a Blockbuster Video on our landline phone" is now a phrase as antiquated as "Grandma used to ride her bike to the corner store to shoot jacks!")
You're kinda like a "WAM grandpa" right now, telling me about how you had to go uphill both ways in the snow and rain in order to look at grainy VHS tapes of amateur WAM
SlapstickStuff said: I started sending money orders to Neil/AmateurPies in the 90s.... based SOLELY on a B&W still pic of the blonde at :40, covered in cream & crust.... which appeared in an old Mafia newsletter (along with Neil's PO Box), sent snail mail by Hurley Coward.
Damn that brings back memories, I used to look forward to my Mafia Newsletter
SlapstickStuff said: I started sending money orders to Neil/AmateurPies in the 90s.... based SOLELY on a B&W still pic of the blonde at :40, covered in cream & crust.... which appeared in an old Mafia newsletter (along with Neil's PO Box), sent snail mail by Hurley Coward.
I did the same thing and I can still picture it. Pic of the blonde and a pic of a brunette (I think). Those were both off of the first tape Neil sold. I used to keep the old Pie Mafia newsletters, but i probably threw them out when I moved. Used to always look forward to a new clip tape coming out too and seeing the listing.
SlapstickStuff said: I started sending money orders to Neil/AmateurPies in the 90s.... based SOLELY on a B&W still pic of the blonde at :40, covered in cream & crust.... which appeared in an old Mafia newsletter (along with Neil's PO Box), sent snail mail by Hurley Coward.
Talk about nostalgia! I suspect 80% of that previous sentence won't even make sense if you're under the age of 30. (Like John Mulaney's bit about "I called a Blockbuster Video on our landline phone" is now a phrase as antiquated as "Grandma used to ride her bike to the corner store to shoot jacks!")
That said, the quality of the above (pirated) video IS terrible, because the uploader posted a dub of a dub at 240p. The original Neil stuff from the 1990s on videotape still isn't great shakes, but it looks alright when converted to digital at 480p with a decent bitrate. I'd talk to the current owner. All those super old clips should still be available. Most of them go on for a good while longer.... The girls in the tub have a lot of messy back-n-forth, the girl with her head in the pie gets clobbered many times over, etc etc....
So you've seen all those? I bought like every video Neil offered and I don't think I've seen most of those. lol Maybe you have some special vids that only got offered to a few people?
SlapstickStuff said: I started sending money orders to Neil/AmateurPies in the 90s.... based SOLELY on a B&W still pic of the blonde at :40, covered in cream & crust.... which appeared in an old Mafia newsletter (along with Neil's PO Box), sent snail mail by Hurley Coward.
Talk about nostalgia! I suspect 80% of that previous sentence won't even make sense if you're under the age of 30. (Like John Mulaney's bit about "I called a Blockbuster Video on our landline phone" is now a phrase as antiquated as "Grandma used to ride her bike to the corner store to shoot jacks!")
That said, the quality of the above (pirated) video IS terrible, because the uploader posted a dub of a dub at 240p. The original Neil stuff from the 1990s on videotape still isn't great shakes, but it looks alright when converted to digital at 480p with a decent bitrate. I'd talk to the current owner. All those super old clips should still be available. Most of them go on for a good while longer.... The girls in the tub have a lot of messy back-n-forth, the girl with her head in the pie gets clobbered many times over, etc etc....
I never knew you had so many connections! Lol Oh, and I'm exactly 30, so I'm just on the cusp of knowing what you're talking about.
And we didn't have Uber! If you didn't have a car you had to use these things called buses or taxis and you had to be driven FIFTEEN miles in the snow just to get it! Lol
The quality of the pies used in these old videos still holds up decades later IMO. The camera angles and video quality definitely leave much to be desired though. Yet, for some reason, I really do enjoy these old WAM videos from the 90s. I dunno, I guess I just love the amateur feel of them and also looking at how WAM has evolved since the 90s. And I'm only 21 years old so I have no nostalgia related to any of this, I just find it fasinating.
That's a really good point. The pies are still pies and still look great, it's just the video itself that looks a little aged.
For me, it's always a little weird to go back in time--I remember great scenes from not-so-long ago that looked great (I thought) at the time, and look great in my memory, and then I actually see the clip again however many years later and go "That's still a great hit but wow is that video not great."
Honestly, a tribute style wouldn't be that big of a deal I don't think. Even if some of the effects aren't exact, I would think it could still be fun. ESPECIALLY if we see all that curly hair from the 90's!
Plus, so many things end up getting remade anyway!
You're kinda like a "WAM grandpa" right now, telling me about how you had to go uphill both ways in the snow and rain in order to look at grainy VHS tapes of amateur WAM
Yep, I feel that way sometimes! Still not as old as RobbyWLP tho!
It's also not ALL rain and snow uphill however.... as per this (100% made-up) convo:
ME: Man, I remember my first shoot.... Good ol' Liz in that crappy motel room. Five scenes, 60 pies or so. Paid her $100 total.
NEW PRODUCER: Huh. I just had a model on IG shoot a 5-minute video for me on her phone. Cost me $200.
I had a VHS tape with those scenes at the .59 second mark years ago, not sure where I got it. I recall it started with a blond girl(not on the link posted here) who from Neil's dialog in the background, thought she was doing a pilot for a morning show and used the line 'I hate Mondays' after a pie would hit her. I think the very early Neil tapes show the girls not being aware it was a fetish thing.
Clinton77 said: I had a VHS tape with those scenes at the .59 second mark years ago, not sure where I got it. I recall it started with a blond girl(not on the link posted here) who from Neil's dialog in the background, thought she was doing a pilot for a morning show and used the line 'I hate Mondays' after a pie would hit her. I think the very early Neil tapes show the girls not being aware it was a fetish thing.
Say what you will about my customer service, toward the end of my run, but ALL the girls knew what was happening with legal consent. I remember the first few volumes, some of the scenes, were planned as part of a Public Access series I was gonna do called "I Don't Like Mondays." (public access...no internet back then, really) If you saw my early work, there were more than a few scenes shot with "grand plans" and potential editing that never happened. I'm not sure where your "morning show" idea comes from. There is plenty more where these came from. I recommend to everyone to check out the website. I left years ago, but the new owner is running things and he'll hook you up! Neil
PieFightGirls said: Found the footage, it is on the end of the AP1 DVD. I'll work on putting a clip out there.
Awesome! These older clips are great.
Speaking of "lost" content, the description for Amateur Pies Vol 9 Scene A mentions that it's one of two scenes with the model, but I don't think I've ever her second video anywhere. Any chance that clip can be made available as well?
Speaking of "lost" content, the description for Amateur Pies Vol 9 Scene A mentions that it's one of two scenes with the model, but I don't think I've ever her second video anywhere. Any chance that clip can be made available as well?