Hey there this is Lyra, Alanas Virtual/personal assistant and ive been in this mess for 2 years now and im just curious about messy protocol.
We all love the sexy gooey sticky part of the messy but what about the aftermath?
After helping Alana produce huge productions of mess, the amount of work before and after a messy shoot is astounding.
I want feedback on how fellow producers handle this not just what you use to keep a space clean but also how do you have the energy to clean up after every shoot, do you have help? do the models help you? do you have a paid assistant? how much time between shoots do you take to clean and reset? whats your max amount of shoots you can get done in one day? and any other helpful information to assist in creating a sexy messy world the easiest way you can!

Hope to hear from you all!

-Babes aka Lyra (by the way if you haven't figured this out yet if we sign it babes then its me Lyra speaking for the company nice to finally meet all of you!)

Doing it personally I think changes elements to how you approach it
For me I can get clean up done in 15 mins if I prepare and know what I'm working with other times someone may be involved and I do something silly like touch something while covered in mess and it ends up taking another 30 mins

But if I'm in the shower using soap paint I can clean up in about 5 mins

AimMe helps me set up by making some stuff occasionally, I set up the plastic and I also clean up everything afterwards while she washes up. I feel like it's the least I can do to make and clean up a majority of the stuff since she's indulging me. We do about 1 per week, maybe 2 depending but yeah sometimes I'm so exhausted by the time we're supposed to film I'm like "fuck this, let's do it tomorrow" cuz I know it'll be too much for me to handle for clean up. I think just knowing your limits and knowing what to expect is the biggest thing. I've been doing this for my whole life and I've learned what works and what doesn't through trial and, mostly, error (let's be real). I'd rather wait a day than be so tired I feel like I'm gonna collapse while cleaning up.
-dormant

We have the advantage of their being a main drain just outside the dungeon door, and the dungeon has a concrete floor. So at the end of a scene we can just hose the floor down and sweep everything out with a floor brush. Because of how long ago the plumbing and drainage here was installed it's a single-drain system, where the water from the house gutters goes down the same pipe as the waste, which means it all gets flushed out thoroughly every time it rains - and up here in the Dales it rains a lot. So we don't have to worry too much about clogging the drain with stuff, and it's a nice large diamater free-flowing pipe.

At the end of each shoot the girls hose each other down in the dungeon (usually on camera but even if not filmed, they still wash off there) which means there's already plenty of water and just natural flush-out, then when they've headed upstairs to change for the next scene I can hose/sweep the floor out, and then start opening supplies or mixing gunge, ready for the next scene.

Having a dedicated facility with hosedown pipework permanently installed very much helps.

We generally aim to shoot three or four scenes in a day's shooting. We have done five in the past but everyone ends up knackered and it runs late into the night if we do that. A shoot usually lasts about 45 minutes for 25 minutes of footage, by far the bulk of the time is spent in preparation and clean-up between scenes, plus doing a "dry run" (literally) through the important bits before each shoot.

A dedicated space with a water proof floor, drainage (ideally to a sewerage drain like DM1 rather) and water supply is essential if this activity is regular.

I end up building one wherever I live - even though I'm only an occasional producer.

I started WAM producing with a (now X) relationship partner with whom, although enthusiastic in the event, didn't wish to shoot too often and would absolutely not do more than one session or shoot in a day. So I got into the habit of really going over the top with mess and volume in a one-shoot day.

Heavy or extreme mess became my reputed style as I later continued to shoot with other women and models. The decadent arrays of pies, buckets of goop, food, gunge, mud, clay and paint take quite some prep. I use real cream for the pie topping and whip large volumes of it in a stand mixer in shifts. I've not been able to shave much off 8-10 hours studio prep (sometimes a couple of days)

The shooting usually takes from 30mins to 90minutes. The typical mess is simply too heavy and ridiculous to expect anyone to go through it more than once. The one and only exception was a mud bath shoot which, being a single, non perishable substance was easy enough for a model to wash off from, dry their hair - we shot a second scene that day.

The models gets a warm water bucket rinse and then she's in the studio shower with plenty of soap/detergent/shampoo. This is not always recorded depending on the model. This will take another 20-40 mins. Quite often the residue is such that the model will go off to have a second, private, shower or bath elsewhere in the house whilst I start cleaning up the studio (once I've removed all the media equipment to a safe place).

Firstly I scoop up the slurry from the floor into buckets, strip down the set and rinse off any chairs and props and buckets. The containers and buckets take the most time. A lot of water and detergent is used and the area and containers take multiple scrubs and sluices to run clean. The fastest I've done it (with an assistant) was 3 hours (from end of shoot to pristine, lemon fresh) but, again, this can drag on for much longer if there are any complications.

Wow serious life goals right there! I bet that makes everything super easy.

The most we have shot in a day is about 4 shoots and thats without any drain literally having to bag up each mess and cart the bags to some type of dumpster.

im wondering if there's a way to make this process better to be able to get more than 4 shoots in one day....

Not wealthy enough to afford anything but a mop and a bucket. For me, this is a serious fetish, so that's where the energy and motivation comes from. I get so excited and it keeps building up as it gets closer to the moment of getting messy. So I'm extremely motivated and full of energy. I must confess I don't do much set up/cleaning anymore. But when I do, I'm so excited getting ready, and afterwards I'm basking in the afterglow, so I'm so busy thinking about the fun I just had and that makes clean up kinda fun for me. I just put on music/podcast and sort of trance out, reminiscing as I clean. And clean up can take hours, for sure. Sometimes it's okay to leave it to clean up the next day if I'm too exhausted.

Ditto, this.

I generally do in the bathroom because easy access for clean up. If it wont' go down a drain, I don't use it.

I don't need pies, beans, and other solids to enjoy. Slime, gunge, puddings, oil, etc. are perfect for my tastes. When I went to go see Jayce and She who must not be named, we did it in a bathroom with a walk in shower that has the hand shower. God, that made cleaning up infinitely easier.

For outdoors stuff, I'd make sure there were a body of water near by to just go jump in. Bring a duffle bag and some trash bags to throw clothes, etc into and contain the mess for easy travel back.

We have a few locations throughout our house but setup and tear down of the set all happen after hours (after the kids are asleep). A washable backdrop and a waterproof floor/blanket make our cleanup operation a lot easier. I hate being wasteful with plastic so we do not throw away plastic tarp material. We use sheets to cover the walls and then scrape off as much mess as we can before throwing them in the wash machine. We also live on a septic system so we have to be mindful of how much messy substances we wash down the drain. We clean our Vinal backdrops and re-use them. Last summer we bought fake wood floor panels to use in our garage scenes and it easily gets wiped up with a sponge and then taken apart to dry.

Producing WAM content is certainly not for the faint of heart. There is a lot of work that goes into it even after the filming and cleanup is done. I am no video expert so over the years I have also improved my video editing skills and continually update our video quality. That is just another aspect of the fetish. But it really all comes down to that 10 minutes of madness and splatter all over the place and hoping others enjoy watching our fun as well.

Do I have help? Nope, it's just me. I've had a helper with setup, pies, and pouring out buckets but cleanup is my thing.
Do the models help? I'm the model so yes
Paid assistant? No, although if things work out I'd love to be able to pay that friend I mentioned earlier.
How much time between shoots to clean and reset? Including cleaning and resetting me, it's about an hour. She (helper) made the new pies and got things ready while I was in the shower, changing, and doing makeup. When I'm solo it's closer to 90 minutes. With cleaning we don't go for perfect, more like whatever is left isn't a distraction.
Max amount of shots done in one day? Three, and that's with the helper. This stuff is tiring between the physical and mental effort of making it all happen. On my own I'm only good for two and I really have to push through to make that second one happen.

Anything helpful... I'll have a tub with dishwasher + laundry detergent mixed with water ready to put what I was wearing in after hosing myself off in the shower. It does a great job of dissolving cake batter and whatever else I might have used without harming anything. The picture is what my bathroom looks like right now after a late night video shoot (kids asleep + 30 minutes), and the white bucket has the bridesmaid dress I was wearing soaking in it still.

.. you do everything in secret in the middle of the night
.. besides the mess, you basically don't throw anything away
.. and you do this basically all the time

holy crap you guys.. you walk the path of the righteous!!

most impressive

I've cleaned up too many large messes over the years, so now the plan is simpler. We have bought an inflatable spa, and we plan on hooking it's drain into a drain upstairs in what was once a kitchen. This room sits over the kitchen, so we'd have a horrible situation on our hands if anything were to leak. Keeping that in mind, we will be using only water based items, no beans or lumpy things, and anything thick must dissolve with water so it goes down the drain. The bathroom is next door, so showering off will be easy. But the room is full of stored stuff at the moment and we've got lots on our plate right now, but soon, we plan to make this room a reality. We are aware of weight and certainly won't be putting deep, heavy messes in the spa, but it'll be ideal for shallow, and splattery messy fun. This is miles ahead of using plastic sheeting and trying to contain all the mess to dispose of it.

This thread is equal parts fascinating and cathartic and just quite useful and affirming to how I felt after my first and only WAM shoot experience last year.

Also Apropos as this year (and in just a few weeks) my partner in slime and I will be attempting another one and I'm already working overtime in planning to address all the issues I didn't anticipate last time.

Last time, we were in a Hotel Suite and it was a way more physically demanding and exhausting endeavor that either of us were expecting it to be, with the added stress of a time crunch on check out the next day.

That said it feels good to know I'm in good company and feel a bit better about the hours of prep that go into the 10min of fun, then then clean up begins lol. Such a strange thing we enjoy, but it just feels good to know I'm not alone.

Thanks guys.