So I was just about to put an order in for more materials to work on the next set of features for my portable Gunge/Dunk Tank (see profile for test vids so far).
Now the current build is really for outdoor use it needed to be a certain height for it to be able to have Dunk Tank features and an overhead Gunge Tank which unfortunately is just a little too tall to practically use indoors as there is not much headroom to actually fill the overhead tank given the standard height of rooms in the UK is 2.4m. But anyway as I was mostly intending it for outdoor use that was fine by me.
However I did just have the idea of a Splosh 'n' Go (or Wash 'n' Goo) service where one is hired to come erect the portable Gunge Tank at a place of your choosing for between 1-6 hours of play (with options of having it filmed for you to get the videos of your session) and I then quickly clean up and go.
I was thinking it might be a little Noel's House Party like experience for many who might surprise their partner with the tank being set up for their return from work one evening, or perhaps I assemble it whilst you take them out on a date or if you want the Michael McIntyre experience (assuming they are a heavy sleeper) a midnight surprise. People would not need to worry about neighbours seeing anything suspicious being brought in the disassembled tank can be fit into a Wheely Cricket bag I have (unless you want the bigger gunge vats but they would just look like carrying a bucket whilst everything else remains in the cricket bag.
Optional games may even be possible such as a Number Cruncher like game to be able to unlock the tank to escape before time is up. Some features currently on the big tank such as the Pie Catapult or Glory Hole Tank could also easy extras for indoor play. (Dunk Tank features would only be suitable for outdoor play).
There are also potential options for solo sploshers (I am a few months away from attempting to hook up the tanks for internet connectivity for potential online play on a livestream). Or if you want an in person participant depending on how big a pain in the arse it might be legally/administratively I might be able to either hire a model or put my Domination experience (either as myself or my femme alter-ego Elise) to use for sessions ending with a finale ending in the Gunge Tank. However given the need to oversee safe use of the tank, ensuring participants don't slip over afterwards and clean-up I personally would not be able to get wet or messy myself with such sessions.
The question however, before I splash out on extra materials and potentially give them a paint job to look fancier on a special indoor version is whether there would actually be any interest in this service.
Realistically the service would cover mainland UK though for extra travel fees I could potentially go as far as Ireland or even Europe. I wouldn't say no if some mad bastard wanted me to fly out to the Americas or to the Land Down Under but honestly given travel costs to those it'd be cheaper if I built you a tank and shipped it. Though if there were a bunch of you in the same country it might be possible to spread the travel costs over them to be somewhat reasonable - haven't given it much thought as highly unlikely but wouldn't rule out the possibility.
EDIT - Done a little bit of quick research (see a reply lower down - may not be as much of a mad bastard as I thought if a few of you in the same city area or a few more in the same country for a "global delivery," to potentially feasible at reasonable rates) - EDIT over back to original post.
And so I thought I would gauge how much interest there might be for a service of this nature hence the poll.
This is a hugely exciting new concept. A truly 'man portable' gunge tank with the possibility of a 'site' visit to a location of your choice. However, I fear like most of the food delivery services in my area this would not be available in the obscure part of East Anglia I inhabit. Still, I'd be willing to travel to try it out, so you might want to also factor that in to your plans if others are unable to host.
Auntie Liz said: This is a hugely exciting new concept. A truly 'man portable' gunge tank with the possibility of a 'site' visit to a location of your choice. However, I fear like most of the food delivery services in my area this would not be available in the obscure part of East Anglia I inhabit. Still, I'd be willing to travel to try it out, so you might want to also factor that in to your plans if others are unable to host.
So that's a resounding 'yes' from me!
L x
So the way I think I could envision things working if I went ahead with it there might be two options:
1. Book for a specific date - say for those wanting something on a birthday or anniversary.
Or
2. A flexible date option where people give what dates they could do a month in advance and then if others within the general area have also got a potential booking in and have dates I could string back-to-back then I might be able to book Travelodges/Premiere Inns in advance at a discounted rate in which I can pass the savings on from fuel to the bookers.
I do have the advantage that I can work flexibly, choosing my own work hours and where I work from hence why touring the UK or even the continent I might be able to work.
Further afield tours of multiple people could be trickier - for instance I would expect trying to get a gunge tank in luggage through ICE in the US might be awkward to say the least - still it would save getting a prostate exam!
But I've done a lot of long distance driving in my time 7+ hours so I reckon I could tackle most of the mainland UK even for a specific date booking with say a month's notice.
I got curious how much a Mad Bastard someone might have to be for me to jump on an intercontinental ballistic missile - sorry plane.
So it seems I was overestimating the cost of international airfares by quite a bit - I thought it would be in the thousands but you can get much cheaper if you book ahead and don't mind weird routes with changes.
But rough estimate using the most expensive tier of Gunge Tank Experiences in the UK as a guide price (for if going to travel around the world a full day booking would probably have to be the option, not really any savings for a 2 hour session) then assuming I can chain 3-5 bookings in roughly the same city/region (eg. New York + surrounding states) in the same week then spreading the travel costs across them might just be an extra 25%. For an entire country (eg. USA or Australia) then might be able to pull it off with just an extra 25% if chaining 5-8 bookings over a fortnight.
These are just rough calculations (and assumed the absolute cheapest fares in the cheapest months of the year) to not make any promises but with a few people grouped together - they might not be as much of a Mad Bastard as I thought... Though I would need to do serious thinking before considering global offerings - I especially hate the paperwork for normal visa travel and I assume business travel would be worse.
Sounds fun. It could just use a name change to avoid any references to "splosh" so as not to limit your market to niche fetishists. Seriously, non-WAMmers could greatly enjoy such a service for non-sexual reasons. You don't need to emphasize discreet delivery like you're selling boner pills. And if you feel guilty about marketing a kink-inspired service in a non-kink context, just hire a partner who isn't into WAM but just want to work hard and make money.
I think this would be a difficult service to offer - is there enough business in the splosher/BDSM market? Catering to both.. well... people who get off on it, and members of the general public looking for some non-sexual fun/silliness is going to be tricky.
And, as mentioned above, a lot of potential customers are going to want to be discreet.
SploshAndGo said: Please be so good as to change the name of your theoretical service to something that doesn't include my username!
Apologies, didn't know you existed with this name. When I used to be more active on this website as theStickyTrickster I mainly posted advice or support in Messy Minds (much of which gone now as there is a tendency for those posting they're struggling to close their accounts with all the comments in those threads disappearing) so unless people were active in there I'm not familiar with names.
TheSpecialist said: Sounds fun. It could just use a name change to avoid any references to "splosh" so as not to limit your market to niche fetishists. Seriously, non-WAMmers could greatly enjoy such a service for non-sexual reasons. You don't need to emphasize discreet delivery like you're selling boner pills. And if you feel guilty about marketing a kink-inspired service in a non-kink context, just hire a partner who isn't into WAM but just want to work hard and make money.
maxodrivebackagain said: I think this would be a difficult service to offer - is there enough business in the splosher/BDSM market? Catering to both.. well... people who get off on it, and members of the general public looking for some non-sexual fun/silliness is going to be tricky. And, as mentioned above, a lot of potential customers are going to want to be discreet.
To answer these together:
1. I'm not intending this to be my sole form of work so it doesn't need to be big enough to support myself (and nor would I want it to, my ADHD works best when I am able to juggle between multiple projects to maintain novelty, even if this proved to be really successful I wouldn't want go flat out as sole form of work or I'd get bored fast). So long as it makes enough to justify the time and effort put into it instead of other project ideas then I'm happy.
2. I'm going to stick to kink crowds. Firstly I would find it awkward for me to mix my kink with those that aren't kinky. And one of the other projects I'm working on is a Co-operative style business creating content and merchandise in the Kink industries. Part of the reason for the big tank build with pie catapult, dunk tank and glory hole options is that we may be considering a website along the lines of what if Splosh had been a TV gameshow production company instead of a magazine but still retaining the shameless humour and kink. And part of the reason for the modular design is that if it fails I can reuse the parts to create predicament bondage frames for use in the other projects. But any long story short given I intend to be active in various kink content spaces I especially don't want to have any blurred boundaries. I especially don't want to go down a route in which marketing to normies might result in being hired for birthday parties for under a certain age group. I definitely don't have any interest in them and even despite that doing both kink events and those birthdays would look dodgy as fuck.
3. Naturally discretion is going to be desired hence why it can be wheeled in dismantled inside a cricket bag. Unless the neighbours think one has a cricket fetish everything should be fine. I would give previous examples but that would be well indiscrete! Let's just say I have previous experience balancing semi-public play in kink and ensuring we have never been caught
Brattyshortcakes said: Who's bringing this concept to the US please?
At the rate of responses from the "mad bastards," it might turn out to be me doing it touring the lot of you. Assuming I can find a way to get 10kg of white powder Natrasol through customs That shouldn't be difficult, right? Right?
Following this thread with interest. If you plan to solely work with the kink-market, you could consider hiring somewhere (Airbnb/big house/something similar) and having a group of people come to you? I imagine spliting the costs would interest people...
Well, it does look like there is a queue starting to form for this one. I think what would be helpful to have a registration system of some kind in which the attendees would state which part off the county they are in or could be near. Then perhaps you could save costs by doing this 'road show' style. You know the sort of thing:
"Hey folks, this week I will be in (insert place name) so come around to Lizzie's house and get gunged".
You may well start to see trends in where people are and potential venues for where the fun might be hosted. Those requiring a 'private' service could get there turn when you are in that area. I have to say this would be a fabulous way of meeting others daft enough to get covered in gunge.
So just some thoughts there. I'll probably end up having to drive to Midlands or what have you (who comes to East Anglia?!), but the potential here is pretty good.
Have your disclaimer sheets signed and ready! Love Liz xx
SploshAndGo said: Please be so good as to change the name of your theoretical service to something that doesn't include my username!
Yes, I am sure Proctor and Gamble, Unilever or whoever own the trademark to 'Wash & Go' would be very interested in the pair of you!
When I worked in the City of London I was quite near the headquarters of investment bank Goldman Sachs. I always dreamed of setting up a hotdog stand outside their front door called 'Goldman Snacks' and seeing how long it would take for a team of lawyers to leave the building and serve me with a cease and desist letter!
Lokke said: I'd be interested as a disabled person as current opportunities are not wheelchair friendly so having something that could be set up in my home which is, would be hugely appealing.
I'm sure we could work something out that can make it happen. If I were to go ahead with the project then I would need to speak in more depth with you about needs before a booking to work out all the potential challenges involved that I wouldn't be aware of - for instance getting from the wheel chair into a chair in the gunge tank OR I can set it up carwash style (not to tease any future tests) but how easy will it be to clean chair if wheeled through etc.
Anyway if you drop me a DM or a friend request so I can let you know when I've had more time to workout what I might do with this project that would be great. As a policy on kink/social media I don't go messaging people who haven't messaged me first - I already get too many messages over all web/mobile services for my ADHD to deal with.
AlexaJane said: Following this thread with interest. If you plan to solely work with the kink-market, you could consider hiring somewhere (Airbnb/big house/something similar) and having a group of people come to you? I imagine spliting the costs would interest people...
So things are complicated. I wouldn't say the projects I'm working on aren't "solely," for the kink-market. I would probably say that they are kink-coded. We aren't going to be hiding the fact we are kink based and are shameless about it but still try to make entertaining content that can appeal to more. It's better if I give an example this is a synopsis of one project currently being looked at in development:
"The Court of Kink Three dishonourable comedy magistrates hear the cases of disagreements between couples and try to determine which of the plaintiffs should be sent down to receive an appropriate punishment from the court appointed dominatrix*. In this court lawyers are to be bent over the bar and spanked despite what they say about clients representing themselves, we're all fools in love.
According to relationship experts claim 70% of disagreements in relationships are unsolvable, well the judges here seek to settle them in the most objectionable way possible! The show is intended as general adult entertainment that hopes to show couples that there can be fun ways they can resolve their disagreements with kink. Naturally intended for everything to be done all in good humour."
We are at very early stages in general mainly because the most important factor in whether projects like this succeed is surrounding yourself with the right people. It's especially important here as ONE of the intentions is to set up a production co-operative in which we create a shared studio space for everyone involved to be able to use the space, equipment and shared expertise to create their content whether that be SFW or NSFW that everyone that worked on each specific thing gets a share of the proceeds. It's more complicated than that but it gives the general idea.
However it does all depend on finding the right people for instance one Pro-Domme I consulted with about the overall project went into great detail about how a friend she had in the kink space one day ran off with all of her video equipment to never be seen again. Though I don't wish to be disparaging I've known a few Pro-Dommes in a personal capacity (it helps that they know that whilst I'm willing to pay to learn skills or to hire people to produce content that I do not pay people to spend time with me for I get no value spending time with people that don't also want to be there as such they know that I'm not anti-SW or a potential client) and it might surprise many on here to learn that, despite the professional personas, that many of them are the sweetest people you can come across. Partly because to succeed for any period of time in the area you have to become extremely non-judgemental about everyone's weird kinks; often be able to talk people through what comes up in their most vulnerable moments after a scene but also if you can take out your built up annoyances and frustrations on a paying consenting client then you don't need to go around losing your cool with others. HOWEVER unfortunately drug use is rife, especially within the porn industry and you just can't trust a drug addict for if things get really bad and they are going through withdrawal and don't have the cash they might pinch it. To be clear I'm not saying everyone in the industry is doing it indeed the ones I've known haven't been BUT they are also neurodiverse such that either Autistic social skill struggles or ADHD people pleasing tendencies mean they have often wound up trusting people in the industry that they shouldn't have done that then screwed them over. In the end all relationships whether business, social or romantic are based on trust. As such given the nature of the overall co-operative idea not only is it tricky in the sense of finding people that can be trustworthy with it but also many of those that might be, may themselves have developed trust issues with others in the industry if that makes sense.
But anyway to return to the more specific point about hiring a AirBnB or big house. I looked into this for a different project for nowadays most of London's porn production is being done out of AirBnB's rather than the old Soho studios and I know that some BDSM events utilise a big house owned by someone in the scene (either they host or they let someone else host an event whilst they are away) and I've done something similar organising a gang bang for someone. But the big problem especially for something like this Gunge Tank service is that by adding more people it then inevitably would mean needing to hire people to supervise them. For instance if one person wanted their scene filmed I can't both operate the cameras and make sure someone isn't interfering with some safety equipment or that someone else hasn't sneaked upstairs to go pinch something of value from the owners knowing that I'd get the blame having booked the AirBnB. Unlike the gang bang example I wouldn't have the benefit of having volunteer fluffers and organisers to keep an eye on all attendees whilst I ensure everything is safe and consenting for the person in the gang bang if that makes sense.
I mean I'm currently free in a big house for the next 3 weeks over which I'm going to be holding test sessions with the latest gunge tank builds BUT I wouldn't want more than 2-3 people at a time as at some point too many people complicates things.
One of the other things that may help this travelling gunge tank service idea though is that some of the ideas on the table including the Court of Kink one may potentially be turned into a travelling stage show (given the right venues). As such one of the reasons I enquired about whether there was international interest with the idea was that it may be this idea could help subsidise doing some of these stage show ideas on a World Tour. Nothing is for certain yet, as I say still at the stage of finding the right people and you definitely want to be sure you can get along with people if you're going to try touring with them but it is useful to have the information to be able to factor it into planning stages. I know this sounds hella confusing and vague but I can only really cover a tip of the iceberg here as there are projects spanning comedy, games, kink, dating and tech on the table being sifted through and arranged in some sort of logical order. This particular project could wind up being a sideshow that helps support the rest of the circus on its travels metaphorically speaking wherein no individual project would be sustainable on its own but together they can work together and sustain each other.
SploshAndGo said: Please be so good as to change the name of your theoretical service to something that doesn't include my username!
Yes, I am sure Proctor and Gamble, Unilever or whoever own the trademark to 'Wash & Go' would be very interested in the pair of you! When I worked in the City of London I was quite near the headquarters of investment bank Goldman Sachs. I always dreamed of setting up a hotdog stand outside their front door called 'Goldman Snacks' and seeing how long it would take for a team of lawyers to leave the building and serve me with a cease and desist letter! L x
Well if you did try it I reckon Goldman Sacks would probably be more likely to try buy it off of you (legal action would be more expensive and most likely fail Technically they can't go after you for a Trademark infringement because you need to be able to prove a "likelihood of confusion," in which customers of your trademark might legitimately be deceived into buying your product instead. You can get away with using the exact same name for something as something trademarked if it is for something radically different in a completely different market that nobody would confuse the two products) if they don't already have like an internal coffee shop using the name already.
Auntie Liz said: Oh! Well, it does look like there is a queue starting to form for this one. I think what would be helpful to have a registration system of some kind in which the attendees would state which part off the county they are in or could be near. Then perhaps you could save costs by doing this 'road show' style. You know the sort of thing: "Hey folks, this week I will be in (insert place name) so come around to Lizzie's house and get gunged". You may well start to see trends in where people are and potential venues for where the fun might be hosted. Those requiring a 'private' service could get there turn when you are in that area. I have to say this would be a fabulous way of meeting others daft enough to get covered in gunge. So just some thoughts there. I'll probably end up having to drive to Midlands or what have you (who comes to East Anglia?!), but the potential here is pretty good. Have your disclaimer sheets signed and ready! Love Liz xx
The "road show" sort of thing is what I had in mind with regards to whether the other ideas for travelling stage shows could work together. For the record I believe the other travelling ideas being considered are stronger than this one in that there is wider appeal BUT it is possible to do this as well as some of the others for as I say this tank dismantled can be reassembled for that kink equipment. I should also be clear that I'm not looking to become a full-time carnival person BUT if it allows a group of us to travel the world for a year whilst we set up the rest of the studio and other permanent projects then why not give it a go.
But yes assuming when I've figured more stuff out in a few months regarding whether to go ahead with the idea either stand-alone or in conjunction with other projects I'll likely do a registration like thing.