Just wondering who else out there is into both WAM and crossdressing and combining the two? What kind of things do you like to see? This is something I've found that greatly excites me but so far, I really only put on a pair of panties and thigh-high socks and fill/cover them. I'm hoping to try out new things and get some ideas! Btw, I attached some pics of some recent outfits I purchased for additional reference!

I love combining the two. I usually wear panties and tights or swimsuits. For me, it's an extra humiliation factor and they are great for filling.

I definitely agree about the humiliation factor! Swimsuits would be an interesting idea.

Been doing it for years. Check out my website at www.wtanmse.co.uk

As a WAM Crossdresser, it's what got me into it.

I prefer being dressed up in a nice outfit & heels, then either subjecting the outfit & heels to gunge, dessert items, foam, gels to a shower & bath. The thrill with the crossdressing & WAM is what you wear material wise with the mess, like going a satin blouse, leather trousers and suede heels can be a right sensation but of course that's why I think I crossdress & do WAM as try out all these combinations and see what I like & don't like.

Have fun whatever you plan.

My favourite thing I've done was wearing a swimsuit and placing a blueberry pie on my bum. Then I filled the suit with several tubs of melted ice cream before sitting down on the pie. So so good. I sent you a friend request, hope to chat more

I started to play with this idea in the last few months.
Cute panties, a long white dress... and a lot of Nutella. It's pretty nice!

I've always crossdressed a little, usually sticking with underwear but occasionally wearing a skirt. It doesn't make any difference to me on the WAM side of things if I'm in boy, girl, or some other version of myself.

I did recently borrow one of Chloe's dresses to wear in the shower: https://umd.net/profile/id/59730/section/photos/album/cd-wetlook-2022?sortby=name

Chloe also soaked me when I was in a half-and-half mode in the recent hot weather: https://umd.net/profile/i/fsbillie/section/videos/video/chloe-surprises-me-with-a-hose-for-themi

There are quite a few pictures and videos on my profile, but most are in full boy mode. Dig around though, there are plenty of others in there too

I just bought a new sports bra

I'm into it (I think I might be genderfluid, but I've never been quite sure. Sometimes, my feminine side just needs to come out), but I don't get messy while dressed very often, or if I do it's just in underwear. I'm still too poor, decent clothing for my feminine side is too expensive, and I do most of my laundry while visiting family because the laundry machines at my apartment are too expensive. This means I don't wash my female clothing very often, so I try not to get it dirty. The times I've gotten messy in female underwear, it either means I intend to throw it out or its just with shaving cream and can be easily hand washed.


I've always had a fantasy (I've mentioned in other threads) of crossdressing and mudwrestling against either a woman or another crossdresser (and losing badly, maybe being stripped and humiliated, etc). I'd also love to get messy in a feminine costume someday (schoolgirl, maid, cheerleader, nurse, etc).

There's an extraordinarily high overlap between CD and WAM. When Miss Helen ran the WamDrogyny website, which specialised in exactly that overlap (now long gone, sadly), it quickly gained *thousands* of Wamming CD members!

WAM only works for me when I'm 'dressed'. The way the stretchy lycra clothes cling, caress and rub is wonderful, especially once you introduce sloppy and slimy substances into them.

If you've never had a jug of sloppy modelling clay poured into the panty section of several pairs of tights (pantyhose) that slide over each other when thus lubricated ... well you haven't lived! LoL.

i've been doing it since college and it's such a great release. trashed many nice outfits... skirts, dresses, pants, etc... for me it's about the thrill of it.

Ive done WAM crossdressing for years. Started with silky panties then dresses and silky nightgowns, Stockings, Garter belts and heels. Ive been fortunate to find a lady who understands. one pic was at a hotel with Jacuzzi tub. we both dressed appropriately. Second is my birthday. Her idea. She was filming. Happy endings

I replied to this forum and posted pics. Im a paying VIP member but I got a message saying pics were not approved as I need to provide verification with proof with a drivers license or such. Not sure if you see pics but has anyone had to do this? New to me after over 12 years.

Just occasionally!

Wow these responses have all been great! Seems like it's a niche part of WAM but definitely something that a significant group of people are into!

My goal is to be able to get completely into "girl mode" with a wig, breast forms, and some makeup, put on a cute outfit, and then get completely trashed with pies, cool whip, pudding and custard. It's so much work getting to that point though

I'm finding I may be queer or some level of gender fluid? I'm totally fine with presenting as a male for weeks but then sometimes I get hit with overwhelming feelings of femininity and wanting to present as a female. It's not even completely a sexual thing either - sometimes it just feels good to wear a complete set of female clothing.

I'm what the classic definition of 'straight' was or is or whatever... but i sometimes feel like wearing an entire outfit (skirt, blouse, bra, underwear, camisole, stockings, etc) just because it feels good... i don't think we even need labels.. you nailed it when you said "it just feels good"... and that's how life should be! well said!

Yeah, I'm pretty much exactly the same. Male much of the time, but I just need to let my inner girl out sometimes, and not just for sexual reasons.

I ,m also having this problem not sure what to do about it, but anyway i have been crossdressing and messing for a very long time and enjoy a great deal ,makes up for a stressful day.
Wearing full underskirts,lingerie ,skirts etc and topping it all off with nylon overalls is my clothes of choice to mess up.

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Yes I love cross dressing and getting messy. In fact I'm doing it tonight, I'm just getting ready and there's a pool of kaolin clay in the spare room, I'm just waiting for it to thicken up a bit (not deep, only 60 litres but enough to enjoy it). I'm going all in tonight...wetlook catsuit, red fishnet body stocking, red thigh high boots and a naughty (very naughty lol) schoolgirl costume. I've even got a wedlock mask red pigtail wig and a red open mouth gag. Excited would be a bit of an understatement of how I'm starting feel getting dressed. Even got some toys to throw into the mix of messy fun. Never thought in a million years I would enjoy crossdresing as I'm a straight married man but there's something about it......so sexy.

Luckily the missus is away for a few days so I'm gonna have me some fun, even got another outfit for later if I'm not tired. Check my wall in a few days, I will put some pics on

2 more pics. See if they are approved or removed.

i crossdress as a way of life mostly so mixing the two is very easy, as for the wet and muddy that is the easiest in public, since i've taken up photography and mostly wildlife photography i often end up pretty muddy or wet in my every day clothes, dress / skirt heels etc

the food splosh stuff used to be either an indoor thing or later at night splosh walks which i still love doing, recently i was going to my local supermarket about 30mis walk away if i was in a rush and go there either dressed in the stuff i was going to splosh in or go there in something i no longer wanted and buy a new outfit and shoes then change into it and go buy the splosh stuff

the first time i did this was when i set myself the challenge to buy ten different messy items and tip them all down inside my dress before i left the car park (i walked there and back).

the first time i did it i was a bit nervous but i picked one of my fav times, at night when it was raining, less people hanging around on the streets,

It was around 6 pm and just getting dark so i think it was last autumn, was great fun and i've done it quite a few times since, mostly going there in something rather than buying new outfits, that can get expensive but if i see something nice i'll do the new outfit thing later

My next self challenge is to "accidentally" spill something down my dress in the store, maybe something like a 1 liter carton of cream, needs to be a one shot wonder as they would get pretty suspicious if it kept happening
i'm thinking a dress with nice cleavage so its easy to aim at in one move, maybe a satin body so it goes right to the good place and then runs out into m shoes, probably bare legged too,
there will be some embarrassment no doubt it will make people laugh at my expense but it will be one heck of a thrill

As for what i do in doors or in a secluded location basically everything and anything, being an out going crossdresser i don't have to worry about being seen dressed in public as thats normal to me, being messy is a bit harder to explain unless i'm with my gf then its just explained away as having fun

couple weeks ago i was in barnstable uk for the first time, managed to find some mud in the late evening and had a good play in that, some one must have thought i was in trouble on the estury mud as the cops were called but by the time they arrived i'd finished 'playing' and bloody good it was, i was walking back to the hotel and planning to stop off further down where the cleaner water line was so still muddy in heels and a dress with my gf who stayed clean on this occasion as a look out

i saw the cops before they saw me so i called out to them as i didn't want them wasting their time looking for someone they didn't need too, delt with the london cops a few times in the past playing in the mud, all they cared about was if i was trying to dump a body in the thames!! lol

the barny police just said " you been for a roll in the mud then?", yep, had to be done, i love my mud, "ok, we'd rather you not but as long as you're safe" then buggered off

so yeah cross dressing and sploshing is awesome, its on another level when you can do it in public

once i was coming home from doing some shopping at a fairly local shop, before the days of public sploshing had ever crossed my mind, it was a moderate day, i was wearing a velvet dress just above the knee, a swimsuit instead of a bra and knickers which i do often, good at keeping everything in place, a pair of opaque tights and a light weight ladies jacket.
Among my shopping were several bottles of golden syrup i bought to stock up on, i had no intention of sploshing that day let alone on the way home but i got to thinking that i used the syrup before and i knew how thick and slow it was getting through clothes and it didn't travel that fast.
so i figured i could pour some down my cleavage as it was a nice V neck dress and it would go straight into my swim suit and along with the tights it should be plenty of time to get home before it got any where near running out or showing

it was around 2pm so not alot of people about, as i was about to leave the park i walked through i tipped a bottle of it down my top, i felt it do the right way as my belly started to feel sticky and colder than the rest of me by a bit,

As i walked it felt fairly mediocre and i was only three blocks from home, i decided to tip another down my top, went the same way and i felt it starting to run around my back a bit, then i remembered the waist band of the tights will be stopping it from flowing into the crotch of my swim suit, so i did the thing i know from experience that cures this, i breathed in and i felt some slip through, it felt great so i made sure and breathed in and held my tights waist band out grabbing it through my clothes.
well this defiantly did the trick, it wasnt long before my thighs also started feeling sticky.
i swaggered a bit playfully rubbing them together loving the sticky and slippery sensation under my tights, i looked down to make sure it wasnt leaking out yet and i could see golden trickles like amber running down my dark green tights, there were also a dark black patch on the skirt of my dress where it had soaked through, where my tights where soaked with the syrup they had gone shiny too and only partly, that wasnt what i wanted at all it was obvious i had stuff pouring down my legs and all over my dress, even my coat started to get a bit of syrup soak through it,
the golden rivers runing down my legs looked wrong, i tried rubbing them in so everything turned one colour to disguise it but there wasn't enough, and there were people coming the other way too, i turned around so i could avoid them which sent me back towards the park, this one had no lake either, a quick idea i had was to open another bottle and pour it over my tights and then it would make everything black with wetness, well it certainly did that but oh boy was it shiny, my shoes were court shoes and a seude effect do they got a rub over too, the thick tights hadent let any inside then so i could still walk quickly, syrup / custard inside court shoes can be a bit slippery at times and make you walk much slower

now with syrup soked tights a dress skirt that was clinging very tight to me and a coat with a big shiny mess on the front of it to which i had no answer i just walked home, the syrup in my swim suit kept running out down my legs, this didn't stop it looking like golden rivers so i still had to keep rubbing that into my tights as i walked,

i managed to dodge every one i think, not what i intended and really embarrassing at the time but so glad i did it as its a great memory now

The sensual feel of wearing a dress covered in heavy thick mud is incredible, especially the way the dress swishes around your legs! And watching your dress get muddy as you sink in mud is sooo erotic!...

I have to confess that most of my WAM experiences have been whilst crossdressed. I did ruin a male suit once, but it just wasn't the same.

As for what to wear; as elegant and smart as possible - including makeup and accessories. Heightens the sense of humiliation to end up totally trashed.

My standard daily clothing is a skirt, occasionally a dress, though those are hard to find with pockets and to fit upper body and not look like Mrs. Roper. That aside, WAM and crossdressing is different for me than my personal genderless styling.

There are some features of what are labeled "women's" clothing that make WAM fun: leggings or thick tights are nice to pour pudding, yogurt, eggs in, both hold the mess against the body and feel the messy material; fishnets allow the feel of both material and the mess simultaneously; skirts and dresses drape and hang down caressing the body with messy material, and also allow alternating direct and indirect access for when my caressing moves from PG to R-rating.

I bought some maid oufits from Amazon and I wear them for pieing sessions sometimes, to increase the humiliation factor

Love girls school uniform love to get muddy as school girl

I don't know why but I now find the two inseparable. Which all an all make it all the more frustrating.

I am a fan of crossdressing. Here's the thing tho I present so masculine. Big muscles big beard all of that but I do badly wanna see myself in drag or fully crossdressed. I love getting messy in dresses it is so much fun.

Wam came first to me and crossdressing wasn't until much later. I realized I am bi then I realized holy shit not only am I attracted to women but I'd love to look like one. Some of my sexual experiences with men has been with crossdressers. I've even had the good luck to hook up with women dressed as a woman!

My ultimate dream is I wanna be dressed in drag. A beautiful gown and fancy blonde wig with classy makeup highlighted by beautiful red lipstick. Then I am pied mercilessly and in humiliating fashion! Until my wigs knocked off my makeup is destroyed and I'm an ass naked man wearing a breastplate!

Much love to all my crossdressing wammers!