Right guys,

I'm not saying there's no way to fiddle this but it hopefully provides a level of confidence at the very least. Here is their reply

Please do obviously please make your own minds up, I'm not accountable if it's wrong haha! But at least everything tied together!

Amazing! Let's hope this can be made to happen then!

Despite the facebook message I feel like the post from CallumLeighUK is pretty damning and I would also like to point out something else....

GetGunged is advertising this as being a family experience suitable for ages 4+. Yet GetGunged has also joined umd recently, a website aimed at adults with a WAM fetish.

In my opinion if you are happy to be a member of a WAM fetish forum and advertise directly to people with a WAM fetish then you shouldn't be advertising it as a family experience that is suitable for 4 year olds!!

There is no escaping that there is a fetish for everything. We have even had messages on Twitter (before joining here) about people wanting to "test out the tanks" for us.

We have always been clear on our rules and will always be rules in place. We will NOT tolerate anything untoward and action would be taken against those that do.

Although there is a fetish for slime, we expect everyone to respect us and everyone else.

We are toying with the idea of having time slots, where people book a slot and the warehouse is emptied and cleaned before the next customer.

This is all early days, which is why we haven't even set prices.. We just don't know what stage we will be at, whether it will work etc.

As previously mentioned, we have a warehouse with a few tanks. We are just trying to find a way to get them working and earning money.

What did callum say that was daming? There was no proof just his beliefs?

Also the separation of the companies has been mentioned, besides lots of places run family friendly events and kink stuff at the same venue. As long as it's kept apart then no problem.

Filing this under cautiously optimistic but will wait and see.

Besides, I have 4 months to convice my partners this is a good place for my birthday!

We must also make clear that this is optimistic too. No one knows what path life will take with restrictions. We have just seen they are thinking of extending lockdown until May at the earliest.

At the end of the day, we have our business to protect. It's been going for far too long to risk it over something that may not take off.

Yes, we would love it to take off and be known for something new and unique in the UK, but we need to be headstrong and realise that it just may not.

Ultimately our inflatable company is our bread winner and will always have to come first. If we have to cancel these plans or put it on a back burner for a while, then we will have to do that.

I know it might end up being a pipe dream....but having a private place where gunge is available to play with and you can pay for cleanup would be amazing!

Would there be any possibility of combining the inflatables and gunge? My dream would be to be able to play in a bouncy castle filled with slime.

Also, I'm sure producers would pay to rent the place as a studio if you provided the gunge and a cleanup service!

We did consider that, but our concern is if the gunge gets inside the seams and ruins the inflatables. We cannot risk them being damaged in any way.

We will look into this possibility and as long as we are guaranteed by the manufacturers, then this could be a possibility.

Thank you for your support.

Before we continue replying to your message, THANK YOU for everything you have done with the NHS during this difficult time. #NHSHEROES

There is certainly no guarantee this will happen. Almost 99% no go that we would be open before end of the year.

If lockdown does go on to may as they are considering and social distancing until December, there is no chance we could even think about opening this year.

Unfortunately like anything else, we have to watch the government closely and follow every single bit of advice.

Not saying this is a pipe dream, but it looks very unlikely that it will be any time soon. As long as we keep up with plans and get it right on paper what we are looking to achieve, then when the time is right, we will be good to go.

We are trying to give as many details as possible, so that everyone can be made aware but we just don't have details to give. Life as a whole is a mystery at the moment.

We do ask for your support but also to not get your hopes up - certainly not for 2021 anyway.

There's a song by Johnny Nash that is called There Are More Questions Than Answers... It's a bop!

However it can sum up this venture.


If you claim that Sumpter isn't involved then why is he doing your publicity and trailing on local selling sites...

Again, if you are aiming at a family friendly audience then why are you marketing it here in an adult website? One call to Daily Mail and you're fooked...
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Is this just a test the water to see if there is demand - there is plenty of demand and a bit of market research will show that this market has these services.
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I'm sorry, I smell shite and it's this kind of bovine that is that creeps trademark

And for that reason, I'm out.

PS Will you be stocked up.on second hand swim caps? Asking for a friend

I'll be honest, it screams out to me as extremely questionable.

There are a number of people out there who offer sessions in the UK, and guess what? They're not cheap, because it's an extremely expensive business to be in. I could only imagine the costs of having a warehouse full of gunge tanks, as well as full-time staff to clean it regularly and insurance when you have such a huge amount of a very slippery substance.

And what's the demand? A few hundred people? Realistically what non-fetish people would think "Yeah, you know what, I fancy going to a warehouse today and getting gunged 5 times"? Maybe it would appeal to people as part of a wider amusement park, but I can't see a location dedicated entirely to gunge would have any regular visitors apart from people who have a kink for it. Unless they're willing to pay out then I can't see how it would work.

And remember - if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. There have been so many people in the past who have posted on this forum trying to scam wammers, this seems like a perfect storm. Even before Callum mentioned that it was linked to someone previously known.

I still can't work out why Leigh Sumpter would be advertising for them on local Facebook groups if they aren't associated with him? A lot that doesn't quite add up for me...


EDIT: To clarify, I don't think that this is automatically a big scam. Any legit company that came on here looking so promising would attract a lot of questions. It comes across to me as people who might be a little naive as to some of the logistics of something like this?

Hi,
First of all, we didn't post about it on here, it was posted by someone else out of our control and we were told on Social Media that it had been posted in order to get support. As a new venture we need all the support we can get.

Secondly, although it would be great if it does work, it doesn't matter if it does work as we are a hire company and ultimately, these are our hire items. As previously stated, we need to ensure that our hire company remains respectable as we have been in the industry for many years and have some professional clientele whom we have built up a fantastic relationship with.

We are new to gunge, as we stated before and when speaking to Leigh, he informed us that he knew the industry and would help promote it for us if we needed it. As we need all the support, we allowed him to post a facebook post on our behalf - thinking that it would do some good. Upon realising that it wasn't as true as made out, we told him to remove the post and not have anything to do with any promotion.

We are not associated with him in any way, but ultimately we did purchase 2 gunge tanks and 1 dunk tank from him, along with a lot of gunge. We did also purchase 1 gunge tank and 1 dunk tank from Fun Time Leisure.

All we are trying to do is get the support and hepl needed to get sosmething new taking off. We thought that we could make use of equipment that is already in the warehouse. As it is, with the amount of kit that we have, we could start running it straight away (after lockdown of course) but as with our professional image, we wanted to make it better. Ultimately we have 4 Gunge Tanks and 3 Dunk Tanks sitting in a warehouse doing nothing.

As with points mentioned above, during the Covid-19 pandemic, hygiene is a lot more stringent than usual and we don't feel that any of the above items will even start to hire until at least mid 2022-2023.

I wish you all the luck in the world, sounds like an exciting venture, I'll be watching closely to see how it goes.

If you need a model for promotional shots, let me know. :p

A little late to this particular party but thought I'd chuck in my tuppence.

Before I was introduced to the WAM fetish/kink I built a collapsible Gunge Tank for around £250 that allowed you to swap out the tank module on the top so you could choose between one large 27L tank or a quad 8L tank for 4 different gungings. I built it as I was a bit of a practical special effects nerd and wanted to help out a couple organisations I was with at the time. Later on I was contacted by a woman who had a WAM fetish about the tank I'd built that during my conversations with her and my subsequent promo work for the tank that I found my own messy kinks.

Anyway before I stray too far from the point, during the period in which I had the tank and was loaning it out I got to observe what the level of interest was in the likes of gunge tanks and such amongst the non-fetish community. Having done a number of charitable events, partnered with nightclubs and various other activities I personally reckon there is probably an OK-ish market for the likes of Gunge Tank hiring however I think what would be more successful is it being included as part of a wider entertainment package. Eg. Birthday packages that involve hire of a bouncy castle, gunge tank and an entertainer such as a Magician (even better if you can work with a regular magician could one of the gunge tanks be modified to double as a Magic Box to be part of the act of making people appear/disappear with perhaps a gunging at the end), Corporate team building events in which you have a couple inflatable games perhaps and the team that wins gets to gunge their supervisor in a gunge tank etc etc.

As a company that already has inflatables you'd have an advantage of having some of this stuff already. Rather than make gunge the only attraction allow it to enhance an entertainment package you can craft for birthdays, corporate events or even perhaps hen/stag dos. Whenever you can perhaps volunteer a gunge tank or dunk tank for charitable events at minimal rates and use that as you're opportunity to market yourselfs and get exposure.
In terms of the current business model being proposed here though I have some serious reservations about its suitability. When you say Family Entertainment Centre I immediately think of the likes of soft play centres where adults dump their offspring (though some have adult nights - search for it if you're interested, I reckon most links I could find would probably not be appropriate here as most of the centres I know about have it as a one off night alongside their usual clients) or the likes of those Gravity indoor trampoline parks. Given the sort of running and jumping around you can expect from people of that age in venues such as this stuffing in a bunch of gunge and dunk tanks for water and slime to splash on the floor and make it slippery (let alone anyone who has been gunged walking about) you are just waiting for someone to slip over and break their neck/crack their skull open and then you're facing a business ending negligence/corporate manslaughter case.

It seems very unclear what the strategy is for making money is here. What is the experience you are selling to the average consumer? In terms of competition for Family Entertainment your competitors are the likes of say Adventure Golf Venues, Ten Pin Bowling etc. For around £20-25 perhaps a family of 4 get around an hour's entertainment from one of them. What does that get them at your experience? If the typical gunging is likely to be about 30 seconds in length then even if you gunge all 4 of them that's about 5 minutes of entertainment rather than an hour for the same price. You're unlikely to be reusing the gunge, will have to have paid someone to both mix it and then supervise the use of whatever gunge contraption is in use and then cleaned up any hazardous spillages.

Honestly things like gunge filled Dunk Tanks seem to be slightly fantasist in terms of business here. If you wish to deliver a gunge experience cost efficiently as a business Dunk Tanks of them are not the way to go. You can deliver just as messy experiences with a well designed gunge tank (and the design of a gunge tank can have dramatically different results but I won't go into them now) for a sheer fraction of the gunge you use. The more gunge you need to use for each experience not only decreases your profit margin but means you have more of it to dispose of later. I think you would find any plans to repeatedly fill a dunk tank with gunge and then dispose of it on a weekly basis would then attract environmental concerns regarding the sheer amount being disposed.

Ironically whilst your business would be looking to sell messy experiences you are still going to want to keep the mess to a minimum profit wise. As such a "gunge filled" dunk tank may have to be a Premium experience booked in advance.

In my view what I've heard so far I don't personally think would actually work as a business as it is currently being pitched if I'm totally honest. However there might be potential if taken in one of two possible directions.

The first is either going down the route I mentioned previously of creating entertainment package experiences for birthdays/corporate events and going to them.

The second might be to take a look at something like The Crystal Maze Experience like they have in London and Manchester. Essentially groups of up to 5-6 people are led round a replica of the Crystal Maze for an hour playing games as if they were on the game show. Rather than replicating any specific gameshow perhaps you could design 5 or 6 different gameshows in which a gunge tank or dunk tank of water was some form of jeopardy and then you are selling an hour or half hour long gameshow experience.

For example one game could be the Gungey Escape Room in which the group can either choose to play together or competitively. If they play together then they choose a team captain who will be "locked" in one Gunge Tank and a member of staff playing the villain is "locked" in the other Gunge Tank. If the players free their Captain before time is up then the staff villain gets gunged but if they fail to free their Captain in time their Captain gets gunged. In competitive mode they either split into two teams or play against another team. Both teams nominate a Captain to go in the gunge tank with the winners gunging the other team's Captain.

Another game could be a standard Trivia gameshow. Everyone except the game's winner then picks a number on the wheel of misfortune and whoever's number the winner spins has to sit on the Dunk Tank. For every 10 points a player scored during the game they get another ball to try dunk the loser.

I could gone on with more examples but I think I've made my point. You create a number of different gameplay options for an half hour/hour long game experience in which one person might at the end get wet or messy to build tension or excitement. By having multiple different games, and limiting it to one person getting wet or messy you can increase replayability of your entertainment as people might want to come back to play different games or take it in turns to be the person in the hotseat that might get wet or messy. However you are now selling essentially a type of gameshow experience so you'll need to ensure you design fun and engaging games with the potential of close finishes. I should also point out that as these games would be booked out in timed slots, your staff then has the time to reset games, refill gunge tanks and groups need not interact at all with any other groups so you can eliminate any concerns people might have of strangers that might have ulterior interests watching them.
Anyway I before I go on any longer (trust me I could blather on much more) I think I've laid out enough food for thought on this if the company is remotely serious to think on.