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"The forgotten heroes of WAM"
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Pied Asian Girls. https://alumi.umd.net/
Seldom talked about, but he has an amazing catalog of work, and some of the most palpably fun scenes around. The torch has been carried onward as far as funny skits and scenes, but the hole he left as far as making simple, very messy games still remains.
Seldom talked about, but he has an amazing catalog of work, and some of the most palpably fun scenes around. The torch has been carried onward as far as funny skits and scenes, but the hole he left as far as making simple, very messy games still remains.
Bit weird / concerning some people mentioned in this thread seem to be getting defended.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
MessyMaestro said: Bit weird / concerning some people mentioned in this thread seem to be getting defended.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
We can never have anything nice because people have to start shit with everything.
"Actively dangerous anti-vax information"? Even by today's standards after all we learned? I have a friend who had a stroke from Moderna. We had untested, unsafe drugs rushed through government authorizations and then we were in many cases forced to take them in order to keep our jobs. Many didn't even get the choice of which one they got.
We threw Lisa and Al out with Leon despite whatever judicial ruling there was on that case and him following the judge's orders.
People mentioned Liz Ashley, she made a come back here and she was actively chased out within a week even after proving it was really her.
Robby WLP, same deal, left came back and then chased out.
Others here have voiced concerns about other people who actively have stores here about content outside of the UMD that was questionable involving minors, but are still here.
Messygirl models are another hot topic. Lexi keeps coming up, but there were definitely posts in the past with some internal shit slinging about her doing "adult content" or something. Which there's a whole list of former models who've had issues with Darryl over the years, some who still have active accounts and others that don't. BTW, he still posts as a couple's account despite not having a peep out of Leah in years.
Brian Grove if I recall had some issues too.
At least one deleted post in this tread alone because model didn't want to be mentioned or brought up.
Phoebe Rodriguez being brought up time and again despite some of the stories of her abuse and death over the years.
Messy Jessie similarly abused by that Mike guy or whatever the fuck his name was.
Ariel fucked over not only Jayce but a lot of paying customs customers she probably stills owes money to.
How bout Ken still allowed to be around here?
I'm sure in this day and age we can even dig some shit up on St. Bill Shipton.
Point is, if you start slinging shit, you're gonna find no one is clean, not me, not you, everyone who has ever lived has something. Some of it's proven, some of it's hearsay.
You don't get to play puritan on a fucking fetish site of all places with some people and not others. Everyone has a plank in their eye, just no everyone's has been revealed yet.
Damn fool of a tuber
Swampy T. Fox The Legendary WAMFUR veteran that made a fursuit safe for muddy quicksand, safe for slime/gunge, and even safe for shaving cream pies.
Adam Sandy Shepherd Crissey
My favorites were Lenny, Bill, Rob, and Neil. I think Neil is still alive? Watching PFG videos kinda got me into the game. I used to talk to Bill Shipton semi regularly. We were plotting on me flying out to Britain to make some content before he passed. Lenny Sorge commissioned "The Pie Snob" video. It was my first custom, and people are still beating off to it to this day.
I would say I'm surprised Kaydens hasn't been mentioned, but shes not exactly a "hero". She booked two scenes with me this year, and canceled both. I had no expectations on these scenes coming to fruition.
I would say I'm surprised Kaydens hasn't been mentioned, but shes not exactly a "hero". She booked two scenes with me this year, and canceled both. I had no expectations on these scenes coming to fruition.
Bill S & Clown Julie for me folks.
Always give 100%. Unless you're donating blood.
Another +1 for Bill Shipton, a genuine pioneer (or should that be pieoneer?) of the WAM community.
Gilly's Silly House is another one. I loved the slapstick element, and I especially loved the copious amounts of Tiswas-style pies used! It is a real shame that they stopped, they've left a void that hasn't been filled as far as I'm concerned. In the year(s) before ceasing to produce, I feel like they'd really upped the modelling stakes, too. The Katie Green scenes are some of the best ever- it's hard to imagine a model of her standing agreeing to that level of trashing these days. I think one or two models had been tempted to shoot after modelling for GungeGirls, too. I fantasised about Fi Stevens, Keira or Naomi Wood getting the call to be absolutely destroyed with Tiswas flans. Alas, it wasn't to be!
Gilly's Silly House is another one. I loved the slapstick element, and I especially loved the copious amounts of Tiswas-style pies used! It is a real shame that they stopped, they've left a void that hasn't been filled as far as I'm concerned. In the year(s) before ceasing to produce, I feel like they'd really upped the modelling stakes, too. The Katie Green scenes are some of the best ever- it's hard to imagine a model of her standing agreeing to that level of trashing these days. I think one or two models had been tempted to shoot after modelling for GungeGirls, too. I fantasised about Fi Stevens, Keira or Naomi Wood getting the call to be absolutely destroyed with Tiswas flans. Alas, it wasn't to be!
PotatomanK said:
We can never have anything nice because people have to start shit with everything.
"Actively dangerous anti-vax information"? Even by today's standards after all we learned? I have a friend who had a stroke from Moderna. We had untested, unsafe drugs rushed through government authorizations and then we were in many cases forced to take them in order to keep our jobs. Many didn't even get the choice of which one they got.
We threw Lisa and Al out with Leon despite whatever judicial ruling there was on that case and him following the judge's orders.
People mentioned Liz Ashley, she made a come back here and she was actively chased out within a week even after proving it was really her.
Robby WLP, same deal, left came back and then chased out.
Others here have voiced concerns about other people who actively have stores here about content outside of the UMD that was questionable involving minors, but are still here.
Messygirl models are another hot topic. Lexi keeps coming up, but there were definitely posts in the past with some internal shit slinging about her doing "adult content" or something. Which there's a whole list of former models who've had issues with Darryl over the years, some who still have active accounts and others that don't. BTW, he still posts as a couple's account despite not having a peep out of Leah in years.
Brian Grove if I recall had some issues too.
At least one deleted post in this tread alone because model didn't want to be mentioned or brought up.
Phoebe Rodriguez being brought up time and again despite some of the stories of her abuse and death over the years.
Messy Jessie similarly abused by that Mike guy or whatever the fuck his name was.
Ariel fucked over not only Jayce but a lot of paying customs customers she probably stills owes money to.
How bout Ken still allowed to be around here?
I'm sure in this day and age we can even dig some shit up on St. Bill Shipton.
Point is, if you start slinging shit, you're gonna find no one is clean, not me, not you, everyone who has ever lived has something. Some of it's proven, some of it's hearsay.
You don't get to play puritan on a fucking fetish site of all places with some people and not others. Everyone has a plank in their eye, just no everyone's has been revealed yet.
MessyMaestro said: Bit weird / concerning some people mentioned in this thread seem to be getting defended.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
We can never have anything nice because people have to start shit with everything.
"Actively dangerous anti-vax information"? Even by today's standards after all we learned? I have a friend who had a stroke from Moderna. We had untested, unsafe drugs rushed through government authorizations and then we were in many cases forced to take them in order to keep our jobs. Many didn't even get the choice of which one they got.
We threw Lisa and Al out with Leon despite whatever judicial ruling there was on that case and him following the judge's orders.
People mentioned Liz Ashley, she made a come back here and she was actively chased out within a week even after proving it was really her.
Robby WLP, same deal, left came back and then chased out.
Others here have voiced concerns about other people who actively have stores here about content outside of the UMD that was questionable involving minors, but are still here.
Messygirl models are another hot topic. Lexi keeps coming up, but there were definitely posts in the past with some internal shit slinging about her doing "adult content" or something. Which there's a whole list of former models who've had issues with Darryl over the years, some who still have active accounts and others that don't. BTW, he still posts as a couple's account despite not having a peep out of Leah in years.
Brian Grove if I recall had some issues too.
At least one deleted post in this tread alone because model didn't want to be mentioned or brought up.
Phoebe Rodriguez being brought up time and again despite some of the stories of her abuse and death over the years.
Messy Jessie similarly abused by that Mike guy or whatever the fuck his name was.
Ariel fucked over not only Jayce but a lot of paying customs customers she probably stills owes money to.
How bout Ken still allowed to be around here?
I'm sure in this day and age we can even dig some shit up on St. Bill Shipton.
Point is, if you start slinging shit, you're gonna find no one is clean, not me, not you, everyone who has ever lived has something. Some of it's proven, some of it's hearsay.
You don't get to play puritan on a fucking fetish site of all places with some people and not others. Everyone has a plank in their eye, just no everyone's has been revealed yet.
these "fetish sites" are a wonderful thing. they allow likeminded adults the opportunity to meet, exchange ideas and make a few extra dollars. even though i do not share the same options of a lot of what is being posted, it is important they everyone should have the same opportunity to express themselves. and that does include you. some are here to meet, some for the history, some for the drama. me, i'm old. when i was growing up the closest thing we had to a "fucking fetish site" was typing 5318008 in a calculator and passing it around. my point, i'm shallow. i love boobies. i'm here for boobies, i love saying boobies, it's fun. if you think about it, if it weren't for boobies i doubt there'd even be an internet. so thank you boobies and those on the site willing to share photos and videos with boobies in them. live is short, it you try take every minute so seriously it gets shorter.
RAWISWAMFUR said: Swampy T. Fox The Legendary WAMFUR veteran that made a fursuit safe for muddy quicksand, safe for slime/gunge, and even safe for shaving cream pies.
Oh man even I forgot SwampyTFox. He only made a handful of videos but they were great. WAM combined with fursuits isn't explored enough, mainly for cost reasons as you can potentially ruin an expensive suit. The closest thing there is that's more common is WAM in anthropomorphic latex suits. Like the stuff Indigoo Dragon does.
Clown Julie
Sammy Jane
Booze Kitty
Blue Leopard Media
WAM Monkey
Don't think Mrs Bee has been forgotten but she's a hero of WAM I've not seen mentioned
Artshtick videos (I love the Tabitha vid)
Redd (not seen her mentioned yet)
Starr and Max
I'm sure more will come to me later
Sammy Jane
Booze Kitty
Blue Leopard Media
WAM Monkey
Don't think Mrs Bee has been forgotten but she's a hero of WAM I've not seen mentioned
Artshtick videos (I love the Tabitha vid)
Redd (not seen her mentioned yet)
Starr and Max
I'm sure more will come to me later
Thanks All, and apologies for accidentally re-opening any old controversies after a long week.
It's *very* subjective, as many have noted, depending on what you were/are into and when, but the angle I meant was the forgotten or overlooked producer, the less-acknowledged model even on the biggest and most famous of sites, etc.
Photos attached of my own example by way of thanks to all who've engaged, the lovely Mouse.
It's *very* subjective, as many have noted, depending on what you were/are into and when, but the angle I meant was the forgotten or overlooked producer, the less-acknowledged model even on the biggest and most famous of sites, etc.
Photos attached of my own example by way of thanks to all who've engaged, the lovely Mouse.
I miss SploshMe a lot. They really got me into my early days of WAM.
I wish I could find all of Messy Jessie's videos (I know some are still available)
WAMBabes was another one for me.
MessyChic had GREAT content.
Idk if either of them are still here but YourMessyGirl and StormyStarr had great stuff too.
There are a lot of good ones in my opinion. I wish there were more YouTube WAMmers.
I wish I could find all of Messy Jessie's videos (I know some are still available)
WAMBabes was another one for me.
MessyChic had GREAT content.
Idk if either of them are still here but YourMessyGirl and StormyStarr had great stuff too.
There are a lot of good ones in my opinion. I wish there were more YouTube WAMmers.
Parrothead and Amber. I've long since lost whatever pictures I had saved, sadly, and they were only around for maybe 18 months at most in the late 2000s, but they were great, and very popular, while it lasted. Seem to remember they pioneered the "lying down while mess pours on the head and face from above" style (or at least, I'd never seen it before in the producers I liked).
And aside from that, the main attraction was as much the backstory as the gorgeous Amber. It went something like Amber coming pre-packaged with a WAM fetish, having fallen into some mud at high school and realising in that moment that she absolutely loved it. A woman as attractive as that who also turns out to be a genuine wammer? Wow!!
I do wonder in hindsight if there was a bit of spin there, given the backstory's "WAM Pixie Dream Girl" vibes - I mean, we've *all* had that fantasy - although in fairness Amber always looked happy enough being absolutely trashed, so perhaps I'm over-thinking it. But, whether it was all true or involved a bit of benign exaggeration based on knowing your audience, they were definitely heroes of WAM while it lasted.
And the ending? As far as I recall, Amber had a very good job and the risks of being outed if they continued on here became too much. Ah well. Good luck to them, wherever they are now.
And aside from that, the main attraction was as much the backstory as the gorgeous Amber. It went something like Amber coming pre-packaged with a WAM fetish, having fallen into some mud at high school and realising in that moment that she absolutely loved it. A woman as attractive as that who also turns out to be a genuine wammer? Wow!!
I do wonder in hindsight if there was a bit of spin there, given the backstory's "WAM Pixie Dream Girl" vibes - I mean, we've *all* had that fantasy - although in fairness Amber always looked happy enough being absolutely trashed, so perhaps I'm over-thinking it. But, whether it was all true or involved a bit of benign exaggeration based on knowing your audience, they were definitely heroes of WAM while it lasted.
And the ending? As far as I recall, Amber had a very good job and the risks of being outed if they continued on here became too much. Ah well. Good luck to them, wherever they are now.
Not a good judge of who's "forgotten" vs. "still remembered fondly to this day", but I'll try.
Gotta give #1 to Hurley Coward. Lots of good cliptapes, plus his website was the very first WAM-related website I ever came across. Meaning, it was my "I'm not alone!!" moment, the "I'm not a freak" moment. I'll never, ever forget that moment.
One that I do think has largely been forgotten: The piemagination website. I don't really like faked shots (and I HATE generative AI), but this was before Gen-AI--he put all that effort in himself.
Also, while not directly wammers, gotta give it to Geocities, for hosting so many websites back in the earlier days of the web
Gotta give #1 to Hurley Coward. Lots of good cliptapes, plus his website was the very first WAM-related website I ever came across. Meaning, it was my "I'm not alone!!" moment, the "I'm not a freak" moment. I'll never, ever forget that moment.
One that I do think has largely been forgotten: The piemagination website. I don't really like faked shots (and I HATE generative AI), but this was before Gen-AI--he put all that effort in himself.
Also, while not directly wammers, gotta give it to Geocities, for hosting so many websites back in the earlier days of the web
Jim
avenger314 said: Not a good judge of who's "forgotten" vs. "still remembered fondly to this day", but I'll try.
Gotta give #1 to Hurley Coward. Lots of good cliptapes, plus his website was the very first WAM-related website I ever came across. Meaning, it was my "I'm not alone!!" moment, the "I'm not a freak" moment. I'll never, ever forget that moment.
One that I do think has largely been forgotten: The piemagination website. I don't really like faked shots (and I HATE generative AI), but this was before Gen-AI--he put all that effort in himself.
Also, while not directly wammers, gotta give it to Geocities, for hosting so many websites back in the earlier days of the web
Gotta give #1 to Hurley Coward. Lots of good cliptapes, plus his website was the very first WAM-related website I ever came across. Meaning, it was my "I'm not alone!!" moment, the "I'm not a freak" moment. I'll never, ever forget that moment.
One that I do think has largely been forgotten: The piemagination website. I don't really like faked shots (and I HATE generative AI), but this was before Gen-AI--he put all that effort in himself.
Also, while not directly wammers, gotta give it to Geocities, for hosting so many websites back in the earlier days of the web
I was one of Hurley's Pie Mafia subscribers and I was a little uncomfortable with his efforts to get celebrities pied w/o telling them the Real reason. But it was early in my discovery that I was not the only one into this, so I was not going to avoid it..
]PotatomanK said:
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
I could take issue with this statement, but here is not the place. Tara and Steve's departure is still sad. I would further venture that anyone who takes medical advice from a fetish site has bigger problems than most of us.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
I could take issue with this statement, but here is not the place. Tara and Steve's departure is still sad. I would further venture that anyone who takes medical advice from a fetish site has bigger problems than most of us.
PotatomanK said:
We can never have anything nice because people have to start shit with everything.
"Actively dangerous anti-vax information"? Even by today's standards after all we learned? I have a friend who had a stroke from Moderna. We had untested, unsafe drugs rushed through government authorizations and then we were in many cases forced to take them in order to keep our jobs. Many didn't even get the choice of which one they got.
We threw Lisa and Al out with Leon despite whatever judicial ruling there was on that case and him following the judge's orders.
People mentioned Liz Ashley, she made a come back here and she was actively chased out within a week even after proving it was really her.
Robby WLP, same deal, left came back and then chased out.
Others here have voiced concerns about other people who actively have stores here about content outside of the UMD that was questionable involving minors, but are still here.
Messygirl models are another hot topic. Lexi keeps coming up, but there were definitely posts in the past with some internal shit slinging about her doing "adult content" or something. Which there's a whole list of former models who've had issues with Darryl over the years, some who still have active accounts and others that don't. BTW, he still posts as a couple's account despite not having a peep out of Leah in years.
Brian Grove if I recall had some issues too.
At least one deleted post in this tread alone because model didn't want to be mentioned or brought up.
Phoebe Rodriguez being brought up time and again despite some of the stories of her abuse and death over the years.
Messy Jessie similarly abused by that Mike guy or whatever the fuck his name was.
Ariel fucked over not only Jayce but a lot of paying customs customers she probably stills owes money to.
How bout Ken still allowed to be around here?
I'm sure in this day and age we can even dig some shit up on St. Bill Shipton.
Point is, if you start slinging shit, you're gonna find no one is clean, not me, not you, everyone who has ever lived has something. Some of it's proven, some of it's hearsay.
You don't get to play puritan on a fucking fetish site of all places with some people and not others. Everyone has a plank in their eye, just no everyone's has been revealed yet.
MessyMaestro said: Bit weird / concerning some people mentioned in this thread seem to be getting defended.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
Leonmoomin was convicted as a sex offender who actively tried to hide that fact from UMD.
StickyTara peddled anti-vax information that was actively dangerous.
Just because they happened to make good material doesn't scrub the slate clean and make them a 'hero' of WAM.
We can never have anything nice because people have to start shit with everything.
"Actively dangerous anti-vax information"? Even by today's standards after all we learned? I have a friend who had a stroke from Moderna. We had untested, unsafe drugs rushed through government authorizations and then we were in many cases forced to take them in order to keep our jobs. Many didn't even get the choice of which one they got.
We threw Lisa and Al out with Leon despite whatever judicial ruling there was on that case and him following the judge's orders.
People mentioned Liz Ashley, she made a come back here and she was actively chased out within a week even after proving it was really her.
Robby WLP, same deal, left came back and then chased out.
Others here have voiced concerns about other people who actively have stores here about content outside of the UMD that was questionable involving minors, but are still here.
Messygirl models are another hot topic. Lexi keeps coming up, but there were definitely posts in the past with some internal shit slinging about her doing "adult content" or something. Which there's a whole list of former models who've had issues with Darryl over the years, some who still have active accounts and others that don't. BTW, he still posts as a couple's account despite not having a peep out of Leah in years.
Brian Grove if I recall had some issues too.
At least one deleted post in this tread alone because model didn't want to be mentioned or brought up.
Phoebe Rodriguez being brought up time and again despite some of the stories of her abuse and death over the years.
Messy Jessie similarly abused by that Mike guy or whatever the fuck his name was.
Ariel fucked over not only Jayce but a lot of paying customs customers she probably stills owes money to.
How bout Ken still allowed to be around here?
I'm sure in this day and age we can even dig some shit up on St. Bill Shipton.
Point is, if you start slinging shit, you're gonna find no one is clean, not me, not you, everyone who has ever lived has something. Some of it's proven, some of it's hearsay.
You don't get to play puritan on a fucking fetish site of all places with some people and not others. Everyone has a plank in their eye, just no everyone's has been revealed yet.
It's not about being a puritan, it's about not engaging in predatory behaviour. There should be an ethical line that isn't crossed just for the sake of getting our rocks off easier.
I'm not sure if I understand what point you were making with your examples, but mentions of stuff like minors being involved in wam and domestic abuse make me MORE concerned about the state of the wider WAM community, not less.
CrazyGirls was a huge part of how I got into this. Amazing stuff.
Claire Satinslosh hosted a great selection of photos including MessyToni who had the best outfits and great, unique situations.
I love the short stories and Grinim's writing was some of the best. Would love to read those stories again.
Claire Satinslosh hosted a great selection of photos including MessyToni who had the best outfits and great, unique situations.
I love the short stories and Grinim's writing was some of the best. Would love to read those stories again.
Clare Rose the WAM Princess, and Clown Julie, are much missed producers. Others have mentioned PieGirlKay and Gilly Silly House.
As far as models go, Vicky/London Andrews remains a huge miss.
And as for people here - I wish Lajou and Messy Stella would come back. We hardly knew ye.
As far as models go, Vicky/London Andrews remains a huge miss.
And as for people here - I wish Lajou and Messy Stella would come back. We hardly knew ye.
Sploshman said: Brian Grove from Crazy Girls & Terry Riddler from The Naughty Muckers Messers Club from the late 90s / Early 2000s
Both were very Splosh alike with their shoots and pics (and they did collaborate with Splosh Magazine's Bill a few times too)
David Wilkie from Aquantics shoots & videos is another forgotten hero....
Both were very Splosh alike with their shoots and pics (and they did collaborate with Splosh Magazine's Bill a few times too)
David Wilkie from Aquantics shoots & videos is another forgotten hero....
I think it's important to mention Roger Carpenter, considering his role with Aquantics etc.
The Wizard of Ooze
dlodoski said:
I think it's important to mention Roger Carpenter, considering his role with Aquantics etc.
Sploshman said: Brian Grove from Crazy Girls & Terry Riddler from The Naughty Muckers Messers Club from the late 90s / Early 2000s
Both were very Splosh alike with their shoots and pics (and they did collaborate with Splosh Magazine's Bill a few times too)
David Wilkie from Aquantics shoots & videos is another forgotten hero....
Both were very Splosh alike with their shoots and pics (and they did collaborate with Splosh Magazine's Bill a few times too)
David Wilkie from Aquantics shoots & videos is another forgotten hero....
I think it's important to mention Roger Carpenter, considering his role with Aquantics etc.
Oh indeed.
Just couldn't remember more names when I done my post lol
Saturation Hall, Langstonedale
Lord of the Pies
Not sure if this counts as I think they are still producing, but Studio Ken-Ta / Fetish Factory, from Japan. Very long-time Japanese producer who almost never gets mentioned, even though they now have a UMD store. I bought a few of their scenes over the years, including one where two women in wedding dresses utterly destroy each other with condiments including one of them having a huge amount of mayonnaise poured down inside her high-necked dress while it's otherwise still clean.
Their scenes were an early inspiration to me, and are where I originally got the idea of having girls play Scissors-Paper-Stone to decide who gets the mess next in a scene.
Their scenes were an early inspiration to me, and are where I originally got the idea of having girls play Scissors-Paper-Stone to decide who gets the mess next in a scene.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
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