Holland said: This is why I don't have a store on here but would love to. Using paypal for anything that can be considered adult can get your access removed.
johnnypie said:
Jayce said:
johnnypie said: Most scammers only take peer-to-peer payments; CashApp, Venmo or PayPal friends and family. You cannot file chargebacks using those methods. And if a producer only offers these methods, its a big red flag.
hey hey hey now....
I know and have read how well you get your customs out-and that is fantastic! but? There are plenty of producers that use these methods of payment bc that is all their customer has or? that is what is the most simple. I, myself? Offer cash app, venmo, google pay, western union, wize, apple pay, or? they can mail me visa gift cards from my amazon wish list. or? they can mail me a check. However works best for them. I just do not do P.P. BC they will literally take your money and hold it. Sometimes? They wont give it back. and rightfully so-their terms are clear.
but? Just because you dont use those doesnt mean people that do? Are wrong. You can request money back via venmo, and wize I do believe. I have never had anyone have to ask for it back so I dont know...but I know for sure you can on venmo - request funds. Just because I saw it as an option one day.
and yes, I do agree that I have had to take money sooner than usual if someone wants an outfit ordered or if their supplies are in bulk and coming from a distribution center. I used to just cover it with my own funds until time to pay the rest but? I had people who had me buy the supplies (LOTS of them, hundreds of dollars worth) and then? they dipped out. Or? They bought all these supplies and I went and got all of them and then? They were gone. Knowing that I would have to use this stuff because it is perishable? They ended up buying a 13 dollar video with all the supplies they purchased in it-Where I had to pay the models, the camera man, tarps, and TIME. So? As a producer I can say.....that I am just as scared of customers as they may be of me. Ive been dicked over so many times trusting people? Losing tons of money? I have lost track. So? It can go both ways.
PP shut me down years back for taking money for customs. No notes, no idea how in the world they determined it was adult. Because PP ownes Venmo, they also shut me down.
I take CashApp or Square. I've had Square for countless years and maybe I have a leg up since I run a FT business using it so I process a lot. Sending out invoices for customs doesn't even show up on their radar but yes, I risk a chargeback with that method. I've never been charged back or had a customer threaten to charge me back since 1999.
I'll be honest and state we take very little WAM customs. We are very picky with the scripts and absolutely are going to charge for the time/ingredients. We don't need the money. So if someone's gonna come at us with a 2-girl 30 minute slime custom with "my budget is $300" we don't even reply to that crap.
Yep! I have heard that PP has kept thousands from ppls account before. I started an immediate transfer when someone sends funds. I used to just let 1000's sit around in there... Not anymore!!
Holland said: This is why I don't have a store on here but would love to. Using paypal for anything that can be considered adult can get your access removed.
johnnypie said:
Jayce said:
johnnypie said: Most scammers only take peer-to-peer payments; CashApp, Venmo or PayPal friends and family. You cannot file chargebacks using those methods. And if a producer only offers these methods, its a big red flag.
hey hey hey now....
I know and have read how well you get your customs out-and that is fantastic! but? There are plenty of producers that use these methods of payment bc that is all their customer has or? that is what is the most simple. I, myself? Offer cash app, venmo, google pay, western union, wize, apple pay, or? they can mail me visa gift cards from my amazon wish list. or? they can mail me a check. However works best for them. I just do not do P.P. BC they will literally take your money and hold it. Sometimes? They wont give it back. and rightfully so-their terms are clear.
but? Just because you dont use those doesnt mean people that do? Are wrong. You can request money back via venmo, and wize I do believe. I have never had anyone have to ask for it back so I dont know...but I know for sure you can on venmo - request funds. Just because I saw it as an option one day.
and yes, I do agree that I have had to take money sooner than usual if someone wants an outfit ordered or if their supplies are in bulk and coming from a distribution center. I used to just cover it with my own funds until time to pay the rest but? I had people who had me buy the supplies (LOTS of them, hundreds of dollars worth) and then? they dipped out. Or? They bought all these supplies and I went and got all of them and then? They were gone. Knowing that I would have to use this stuff because it is perishable? They ended up buying a 13 dollar video with all the supplies they purchased in it-Where I had to pay the models, the camera man, tarps, and TIME. So? As a producer I can say.....that I am just as scared of customers as they may be of me. Ive been dicked over so many times trusting people? Losing tons of money? I have lost track. So? It can go both ways.
PP shut me down years back for taking money for customs. No notes, no idea how in the world they determined it was adult. Because PP ownes Venmo, they also shut me down.
I take CashApp or Square. I've had Square for countless years and maybe I have a leg up since I run a FT business using it so I process a lot. Sending out invoices for customs doesn't even show up on their radar but yes, I risk a chargeback with that method. I've never been charged back or had a customer threaten to charge me back since 1999.
I'll be honest and state we take very little WAM customs. We are very picky with the scripts and absolutely are going to charge for the time/ingredients. We don't need the money. So if someone's gonna come at us with a 2-girl 30 minute slime custom with "my budget is $300" we don't even reply to that crap.
Yep! I have heard that PP has kept thousands from ppls account before. I started an immediate transfer when someone sends funds. I used to just let 1000's sit around in there... Not anymore!!
Yeah, please don't lol and it is a good thing you're on top of it. Like I totally get how the process is arduous and gets a little old having to draw out funds for each transaction but PP literally hates us.
How they do it is pretty shifty as well. There is allegedly some language in their ToS that alludes to the possibility of selling restricted content on their platform but absolutely no language in how to attain that ability or under what circumstances.
Holland said: This is why I don't have a store on here but would love to. Using paypal for anything that can be considered adult can get your access removed.
Having a store on UMD is one of the few ways you can accept PP - UMD bills via Epoch, who have fanatically strict anit-fraud measures to the point that PP allow Epoch-billed adult content, so PP is an option people can use to pay for UMD store purchases.
cant help but notice alana and penelope are in the comments joining in the pile on on messygirl. alana and penelope are two of my favorite old messygirl models. i wonder what MG did to make them both turn on him.
jacysjuggs said: cant help but notice alana and penelope are in the comments joining in the pile on on messygirl. alana and penelope are two of my favorite old messygirl models. i wonder what MG did to make them both turn on him.
jacysjuggs said: cant help but notice alana and penelope are in the comments joining in the pile on on messygirl. alana and penelope are two of my favorite old messygirl models. i wonder what MG did to make them both turn on him.
Messygirl said: We had Santana ready to shoot his custom this week, but tdk wants his refund instead. So he will get it as soon as he confirms. We are waiting for him to respond. Btw we are still going to shoot it since it's on our schedule and Santana has confirmed. She will be Cruella.
Just wanted to make mention that this is the kind of stuff that happened and created this issue to begin with. As you can see from the quote above, messygirl mentioned that Santana was confirmed for that week to do a video as Cruella. Was it done? Nope. That was 17 days ago and never created, but rather three other videos were produced and published. Just sayin
tdk79853 said: Just wanted to make mention that this is the kind of stuff that happened and created this issue to begin with. As you can see from the quote above, messygirl mentioned that Santana was confirmed for that week to do a video as Cruella. Was it done? Nope. That was 17 days ago and never created, but rather three other videos were produced and published. Just sayin
No it's not. You don't know that the video hasn't been produced - not unless you have insider knowledge. Just like television, WAM producers film their content weeks in advance of "transmission."
Messygirl said: We had Santana ready to shoot his custom this week, but tdk wants his refund instead. So he will get it as soon as he confirms. We are waiting for him to respond. Btw we are still going to shoot it since it's on our schedule and Santana has confirmed. She will be Cruella.
Just wanted to make mention that this is the kind of stuff that happened and created this issue to begin with. As you can see from the quote above, messygirl mentioned that Santana was confirmed for that week to do a video as Cruella. Was it done? Nope. That was 17 days ago and never created, but rather three other videos were produced and published. Just sayin
tdk79853 said: Just wanted to make mention that this is the kind of stuff that happened and created this issue to begin with. As you can see from the quote above, messygirl mentioned that Santana was confirmed for that week to do a video as Cruella. Was it done? Nope. That was 17 days ago and never created, but rather three other videos were produced and published. Just sayin
No it's not. You don't know that the video hasn't been produced - not unless you have insider knowledge. Just like television, WAM producers film their content weeks in advance of "transmission."
Messygirl show "live" filming clips on their Instagram stories - the scene that was released today was filmed yesterday.
Messygirl said: We had Santana ready to shoot his custom this week, but tdk wants his refund instead. So he will get it as soon as he confirms. We are waiting for him to respond. Btw we are still going to shoot it since it's on our schedule and Santana has confirmed. She will be Cruella.
Just wanted to make mention that this is the kind of stuff that happened and created this issue to begin with. As you can see from the quote above, messygirl mentioned that Santana was confirmed for that week to do a video as Cruella. Was it done? Nope. That was 17 days ago and never created, but rather three other videos were produced and published. Just sayin
tdk79853 said: Just wanted to make mention that this is the kind of stuff that happened and created this issue to begin with. As you can see from the quote above, messygirl mentioned that Santana was confirmed for that week to do a video as Cruella. Was it done? Nope. That was 17 days ago and never created, but rather three other videos were produced and published. Just sayin
No it's not. You don't know that the video hasn't been produced - not unless you have insider knowledge. Just like television, WAM producers film their content weeks in advance of "transmission."
I get what you're saying, however based on experience I can actually say with certainty because it would have been released by now, basing on everything that has been said. So unless you can prove otherwise, I am correct.