Bozo1 said: Have you worked with a model that was a total diva and you made a note to not hire again?

Messygirl said:We do our best to avoid shooting with divas in the first place.

Regis said:
Is THIS why I can't get a stunt cock gig?! Well, makes sense.

Messygirl said: Tell your little friend to drop the attitude and we will talk.

Zan said: Raven was a goddess.


Please Figure out a way to bring her back.

wetmark said: Is there a favorite custum you like to do with a male customer is in the shoot with the woman model?

yeahuno said: Happy anniversary and hope to get a wet look custom from you sometime!

cfoster_316 said: Whatever happened to both Madison and the one that was featured on TLC a few years back which was one of the messiest shoots you guys ever did, pie slop everywhere

Infi said: Hmmm, I suppose I'll bite: While it's so damn hard to choose one singular favorite Messygirl (at least for me), one model always stood out to me: Raven. She's a total babe and seemed to really "get it" when it came to getting messy. Either she was genuinely loving her messy shoots, or she's simply a great actor and I'm a fool.

I'm assuming the answer is no, but by any chance do you have any material with Raven that isn't currently available on your sites? Photos, video, etc.? Also, whatever happened to her? I feel that I've read a lot about many of the girls, but I don't know too much about Raven. Everything I have of her is tremendously sexy, I only wish there was more of it! ;-;

And again, Happy 20th!

Zan said: Raven was a goddess.

First time I ever joined Messygirl.com's Member Site was to check out her Stuff.

I don't think I could refuse a purchase if she was ever enticed back to the fold.

Infi is right, She sold whatever she was doing. That woman was amazing!

Please Figure out a way to bring her back.

PS: Did I remember reading she was a Dominatrix? Would you be able to point us to any of her other work? I've looked for years and never come up with a single hit.

Messygirl said:
Raven never was messy until she shot with us. But she totally enjoyed it, and it was genuine. She was not a model when she started for us. At the time, she was learning how to be a domme. She was also a licensed masseuse. She was the ex wife of Linda's boyfriend at the time. This was how we found out about her. We did find her on fetlife.com a few years ago, and even exchanged a few messages on the possibility of shooting for us again. She did show a slight interest, but because she was so much into her domme persona, she felt it would be in her best interest not to be on the receiving end of pies.

We will look over our tapes to see if we can find any lost footage of her. I think there is lost footage of her in gold paint?

I just found out some very sad news on Michelle. She past away about a years ago.

the_pie_chap said:
Any chance of persuading Raven back purely to dish out the mess on some of your other lovely ladies? That would be in keeping with her domme persona.

the_pie_chap said:
That's very sad news to hear. Horrible for her family, I believe she had kids.

JoeYoung2007 said: Ditto on the RIP/sadness re: Michelle. Anything else you could share about her in a positive light? I just went back and looked, i loved that set where she and her friend were pieing each other in the kitchen "for their husbands".

JoeYoung2007 said: A) This thread is WONDERFUL; thank you so much, Leah, for answering so many questions with humor, honesty, humanity which is pretty much par for the course for all the work you've done over the years -- i feel like nobody has anything negative to say about you and the ethic and the girls you've introduced to UMD and the work you've delivered, and that is pretty amazing. Congrats on 20 (!!!!) years

B) I don't believe I've seen anyone bring up Connie yet -- i have a major crush on/torch held for her. I think she only did the two sets for you? Great smile, great skin, i'm not necessarily a "full old school bush" guy but that she had that made her all the more special, as well. Beautiful girl. I tend to be more pies/slime than anything else, but her grease set is not only pretty spectacular, but kind of amazing in terms of a newbie just jumping right into something i feel is at least "2nd tier" (if gold/silver paint or the force-feeding tube are 3rd/4th tier). Was she just another "1 or 2 and then done" who answered one of your ads?

Messygirl said:
Are you asking about the 100 pie shoot with Maddy and Michelle? Madison had to stop modeling due to an vindictive ex. I just found out some very sad news on Michelle. She past away about a years ago.

Messygirl said:
Yes it's very sad. She lost her battle with cancer. She had a son and daughter.

Bozo1 said: How often do you get custom requests that you have to turn down because they are not in your wheelhouse, so to speak? Or they are just too difficult?