flank said: Putting this another way, why show a green tick at all? I.e. I understand why accounts need to be verified before posting naked photos
I think you answered your own question
Let's try that again.
I understand why you need to store certain information about certain profiles, e.g. to run a store or to post particular pictures. That's all fine, no argument here.
My question is: why do you need to display the green tick? * If someone is running a store, that automatically means that they've met all the requirements to be a store owner. * If someone is posting naked photos, that automatically means that they've met all the requirements to post naked photos.
I.e. the green tick isn't conveying any extra information to other forum users. You (MM) need to know that they're verified, but it's irrelevant to everyone else (under the current definition).
flank said: My question is: why do you need to display the green tick? * If someone is running a store, that automatically means that they've met all the requirements to be a store owner. * If someone is posting naked photos, that automatically means that they've met all the requirements to post naked photos.
I.e. the green tick isn't conveying any extra information to other forum users. You (MM) need to know that they're verified, but it's irrelevant to everyone else (under the current definition).
It lets visitors (and the billers) know that the user has submitted their verification info, and that there is at least something to check against upon request. It means we've done our due diligence for the person and that we are operating in compliance. Just because it's not a complete background check on the person's identity doesn't mean that the green check has zero value. What you take from it depends on you, but people do appreciate it.
People are rightly angry that they have been duped, but no amount of document checking is going to stop lying and misrepresentation.
MM could require people to provide 14 different pieces of corroborating evidence and some scoundrel would do that and then still lie about who they are.
thereald said: People are rightly angry that they have been duped, but no amount of document checking is going to stop lying and misrepresentation.
MM could require people to provide 14 different pieces of corroborating evidence and some scoundrel would do that and then still lie about who they are.
Ok, but that doesn't mean we can't take a few minutes and review the processes and procedures? I don't think anyone is really dressing anyone else down at this point, perhaps because "Kelsey" split so readily as opposed to other previous forum miscreants.
So, no, we won't stop every instance of fraud, and we can't undo what happened here, but it's definitely within our purview to stop for a minute and say, "Is there anything we could be doing better?" especially since so far the conversation hasn't gotten out of control IMHO.
JazzTalker said: So, no, we won't stop every instance of fraud, and we can't undo what happened here, but it's definitely within our purview to stop for a minute and say, "Is there anything we could be doing better?"
Yup, that's what we're doing!
Chloe of PieroProductions said:
JadonHato said: I may have completely missed a beat here but did people find the real person's info and confirm it's a guy?
"I've reviewed their ID, W9, and 2257. They were all consistent with Kelsey Rose." So tax fraud on top of everything else
We don't know that. If the financials are tight then the IRS won't care about what they did on a fetish site. But their docs are really not up for discussion.
Okay I'm a catfish and I'm leaving. I'm fake and I'm out. End of story.
I may have completely missed a beat here but did people find the real person's info and confirm it's a guy? This looks more like a frustrated rage quit rather than an admission to me BUT I do not have all the context here having only flicked through the pages of the forums
Please don't repost this person's info to answer my question. Regardless of what's happened, doxxing is not appropriate and people should know better if they are doing that.
Not taking a side, just want to ask a question
I definitely read it as rage quitting rather than a sincere admission. But like, rage quitting in a way that's designed to garner sympathy in order to keep the ruse going.
Okay I'm a catfish and I'm leaving. I'm fake and I'm out. End of story.
I may have completely missed a beat here but did people find the real person's info and confirm it's a guy? This looks more like a frustrated rage quit rather than an admission to me BUT I do not have all the context here having only flicked through the pages of the forums
Please don't repost this person's info to answer my question. Regardless of what's happened, doxxing is not appropriate and people should know better if they are doing that.
Not taking a side, just want to ask a question
I definitely read it as rage quitting rather than a sincere admission. But like, rage quitting in a way that's designed to garner sympathy in order to keep the ruse going.
People seem like their mind is made up this was all an elaborate scam and at the end of the day, I think nothing short of "Kelsey Rose" making some sort of video being like "hey it's me, I'm real" is going to fix that... But I'm also not going to assume 4D chess about people's motives in their messages when they're being booted out from this community. I know I say stupid shit all the time when under stress
Okay I'm a catfish and I'm leaving. I'm fake and I'm out. End of story.
I may have completely missed a beat here but did people find the real person's info and confirm it's a guy? This looks more like a frustrated rage quit rather than an admission to me BUT I do not have all the context here having only flicked through the pages of the forums
Please don't repost this person's info to answer my question. Regardless of what's happened, doxxing is not appropriate and people should know better if they are doing that.
Not taking a side, just want to ask a question
I definitely read it as rage quitting rather than a sincere admission. But like, rage quitting in a way that's designed to garner sympathy in order to keep the ruse going.
People seem like their mind is made up this was all an elaborate scam and at the end of the day, I think nothing short of "Kelsey Rose" making some sort of video being like "hey it's me, I'm real" is going to fix that... But I'm also not going to assume 4D chess about people's motives in their messages when they're being booted out from this community. I know I say stupid shit all the time when under stress
I agree, not that it means anything but I think the person behind the Kelsey Rose account is a female.
Okay I'm a catfish and I'm leaving. I'm fake and I'm out. End of story.
I may have completely missed a beat here but did people find the real person's info and confirm it's a guy? This looks more like a frustrated rage quit rather than an admission to me BUT I do not have all the context here having only flicked through the pages of the forums
Please don't repost this person's info to answer my question. Regardless of what's happened, doxxing is not appropriate and people should know better if they are doing that.
Not taking a side, just want to ask a question
I definitely read it as rage quitting rather than a sincere admission. But like, rage quitting in a way that's designed to garner sympathy in order to keep the ruse going.
I admittedly read it as rage quitting at first as well, but as more information appeared, my skepticism increased.
Here's how Rich of SStuff put it about 18 months ago RE Kelsey:
"No, I believe you're a totally different person in L.A. posting and tweeting independently of SlimedModels Richie. Do I think you're the hot 20-something Goth woman in your pics.... who also has a VAST knowledge of older WAM scenes from the early 2000s, along with an encyclopedic knowledge of YCTOTV? The same woman who's completely uninhibited in posts and tweets about her love of WAM, and messing up hot models.... But won't take a single pic of herself with the models she messes up (before or after), or even a non-messy pic of herself showing off her slime? See, that's where I have my doubts."
Kelsey's eventual response was to post this: "They say a picture is worth a thousand words...What's that one worth?"
The accompanying photo was recently confirmed to be a DIFFERENT model.
So, no one has confirmed to have met or seen Kelsey, not even her close confidant Slimed Models, and her big gesture back then to say, "I am who I say I am, here's a real pic of me" turned out to be a photo of someone else?
It's akin to if people said I wasn't actually Balrog from SF:2 Turbo (spoiler alert: they'd be correct, I'm not) and then I posted a photo of some generic boxer to prove I was who I said I was. Trust gone.
I don't have a horse in this race beyond hoping for the common good, and I don't actively wish this person ill.
Has there been confirmation as to who the person behind the keyboard actually was? Nope. Just apparent proof that they were not who they said they were.
But anyway, that was my journey from doubting to eventual acceptance.
For those that do want to see my big ass, here ya go.
@TheManandWife, tell Lilly if she likes what she sees, the head of the Lilly fan club is single. Jk lol
Hey dude! Heads up, I'm just noticing that your photo is the photo affiliated with this thread/topic when you open up the forums. You may wanna remove it so no one gets confused and thinks you're the culprit.
Okay I'm a catfish and I'm leaving. I'm fake and I'm out. End of story.
I may have completely missed a beat here but did people find the real person's info and confirm it's a guy? This looks more like a frustrated rage quit rather than an admission to me BUT I do not have all the context here having only flicked through the pages of the forums
Please don't repost this person's info to answer my question. Regardless of what's happened, doxxing is not appropriate and people should know better if they are doing that.
Not taking a side, just want to ask a question
I definitely read it as rage quitting rather than a sincere admission. But like, rage quitting in a way that's designed to garner sympathy in order to keep the ruse going.
People seem like their mind is made up this was all an elaborate scam and at the end of the day, I think nothing short of "Kelsey Rose" making some sort of video being like "hey it's me, I'm real" is going to fix that... But I'm also not going to assume 4D chess about people's motives in their messages when they're being booted out from this community. I know I say stupid shit all the time when under stress
Because you're not reading the proper threads you're not fully informed. Read the forum thread by Slop Slvt on how Kelsey Rose is not a real person. The person used in the image Kelsey has been posting as herself passed away in late 2021 and this is a real catfishing that has happened with this person's image, please read the thread about it for more information.