Maybe this is just a cultural thing as I didn't grow up with YCDTOTV but I'm really sick of this showing up in videos where someone has to say ''I don't know'' before getting slimed. It's just a tired and overused joke at this point.
joeschmo said: Maybe this is just a cultural thing as I didn't grow up with YCDTOTV but I'm really sick of this showing up in videos where someone has to say ''I don't know'' before getting slimed. It's just a tired and overused joke at this point.
It's actually a crutch that keeps being used....well...just because. It's more difficult to actually WRITE a situation in which slime is used....so they just default to the "I don't know" thing.
I'm with you. Well past the time to retire it. The phrase...not the slime itself.
Maybe change it to every time someone says...."Fleakinscnackle" THEN drop the slime.
Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
Twilight Man said: Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
Twilight Man said: Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
What the hell are you talking about sir? I Just Don't Know
--Have I dropped slime on models without the "I don't know" catch phrase? Yes. --Have I received feedback in the wake of said scenes, to the effect of, "How come they didn't say I don't know??" Yes.
This ENTIRE industry is based on people's very particular demands.... I mean, there's a few guys who only want to see women pied wearing white pants. A couple only want women wearing ankle socks. There's been requests for models wearing watches... Models blowing bubbles.... And thanks to Lenny, there's about 135 custom videos from the 90s where the model smokes a cigarette in a long antiquated holder while she's getting pied.
And slime fans are extremely particular.... I mean, I use different colors of slime, but some fans only want it to be green. Some want the model to look up, and some HATE that. Some only want the "chunky" style (which models HATE, because it doesn't wash out easily, but I'll do it occasionally). So in the broader context, wrapping the script in pretzel knots just to reach the point where the model works "I don't know" into normal conversation isn't near as tough as other stuff. I mean, it's a cliche, but so is EVERYTHING about slime.
And don't get me started on the UK "gunge," which has a whole different set of rules and demands. (Let's just say I'm very thankful that I only have to work "I don't know" into scripts, rather than building an entire gunge tank in my spare bedroom....)
A person can push a pie in the face for a variety of reasons. But slime comes from "nowhere". When it fell on the cast of YCDTOTV, it seemed to be up to fate, not a person. It seems "fate" needs a reason to dump it, or at least SOME kind of trigger, because otherwise it would just be too random. And the "I don't know" phrase has always been the reliable trigger. If we got rid of it, it would have to be replaced by another trigger word or phrase. My suggestion would be to use colors.
Girl A: I love your shirt! Its my favorite shade of BLUE. (Gets blue slimed.) Girl B: Ha! I always thought slime was GREEN. (Gets green slimed.) Girl A: Well....you got your wish. lol
Twilight Man said: Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
I don't NEED to hear that phrase in order to see a model slimed...but...I enjoy the anticipation of waiting for the model to say it. And I too prefer the chunky slime. My wife would agree it does not wash out easily, lol
I mean, personally I'd much rather hear "come here and fuck me in this slime" or something to that effect more than "I don't know". But I guess I'm weird like that.
I don't really have a view on the phrase, but I've never needed a trigger phrase to have one girl pour slime over another, they do it because it's fun and they love it. See https://gungemastercom.umd.net/download_info/the-bride-slimmed for two girls totally green-gunging each other with no trigger words at all.
I don't know though, is it something we should incorporate in future scenes? Or modify it a bit, lots of gunge flowing as normal but then if someone says "I don't know" we open up on them with the hose or drop a bucket of water on them out of nowhere?
Back when I was producing, I refused to do the "I don't know" trigger line (primarily, because I wanted to be original, even while I was parodying commercials or other Media images)...so I used a variety of "excuses" or "triggers"...like: "Do you have anything besides pies?" (Tabitha, who gets gunged a second time by not liking the first gunging), or, a bad joke (if a bad joke justifies a pie, it certainly justifies a gunging)....or, with Tamara Z saying "I wish there was more..." (and also as part of a 'messy make-over', which also needs no more justification)...
I understand the use of the trigger phrase as an homage to the YCDTOTV show...but I remember watching this years ago, thinking "Why do they get gunged when they say 'I don't know' ?"...all I could surmise was that it was such a common/typical thing for teens to say, that it was perceived as annoying or "stupid", and thus, deserving of slime...
Here's two old faves of mine (from my video archives: Tabitha, and Tamara):
Bozo1 said: A person can push a pie in the face for a variety of reasons. But slime comes from "nowhere". When it fell on the cast of YCDTOTV, it seemed to be up to fate, not a person. It seems "fate" needs a reason to dump it, or at least SOME kind of trigger, because otherwise it would just be too random. And the "I don't know" phrase has always been the reliable trigger. If we got rid of it, it would have to be replaced by another trigger word or phrase. My suggestion would be to use colors.
Girl A: I love your shirt! Its my favorite shade of BLUE. (Gets blue slimed.) Girl B: Ha! I always thought slime was GREEN. (Gets green slimed.) Girl A: Well....you got your wish. lol
There was that one time on YCDTOTV where two girls got multicolor slimed when they said various color words. As a kid, I don't think I've ever wished I were some girl on TV like I did at that moment.
SStuff said: The one semi-serious answer to your question:
--Have I dropped slime on models without the "I don't know" catch phrase? Yes. --Have I received feedback in the wake of said scenes, to the effect of, "How come they didn't say I don't know??" Yes.
This ENTIRE industry is based on people's very particular demands.... I mean, there's a few guys who only want to see women pied wearing white pants. A couple only want women wearing ankle socks. There's been requests for models wearing watches... Models blowing bubbles.... And thanks to Lenny, there's about 135 custom videos from the 90s where the model smokes a cigarette in a long antiquated holder while she's getting pied.
And slime fans are extremely particular.... I mean, I use different colors of slime, but some fans only want it to be green. Some want the model to look up, and some HATE that. Some only want the "chunky" style (which models HATE, because it doesn't wash out easily, but I'll do it occasionally). So in the broader context, wrapping the script in pretzel knots just to reach the point where the model works "I don't know" into normal conversation isn't near as tough as other stuff. I mean, it's a cliche, but so is EVERYTHING about slime.
And don't get me started on the UK "gunge," which has a whole different set of rules and demands. (Let's just say I'm very thankful that I only have to work "I don't know" into scripts, rather than building an entire gunge tank in my spare bedroom....)
Of course I grew up hearing that trigger word back in the late 80's and never get tired of hearing it, but every now and then, I would like to hear the opposite famously done in YCDTOTV's "Introduction to the Opposites" as well as "Don't Blame Me" from YCDTOTV's early 80's American Public TV spin-off, "Don't Look Now".
joeschmo said: Maybe this is just a cultural thing as I didn't grow up with YCDTOTV but I'm really sick of this showing up in videos where someone has to say ''I don't know'' before getting slimed. It's just a tired and overused joke at this point.
The thing is, some people enjoy the fun, slapstick side of WAM. It's not something I necessarily enjoy but I think it is probably a hangover from how most people got into WAM - watching slapstick on TV. The psychology of the memory of these shows is a huge part of the enjoyment of getting messy. The buildup, the knowing that a sliming is inevitable but not knowing when. I think the trigger words just bring those memories flooding back for those who grew up on slapstick. Of course, you shouldn't let the psychology behind WAM distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
I understand where the OP is coming from. There's a lot of, particularly amateur, scenes where the phrase "I don't know" is used in a very non-sequitur manner. It's more that it doesn't flow naturally than the phrase itself. To be fair a decent amount of this could be put on the person being slimed, because if they don't understand the context, they're just saying it because they're being told to. I get that script writing is difficult, but if you're going that route perhaps a little more effort is necessary.
SStuff said: And don't get me started on the UK "gunge," which has a whole different set of rules and demands. (Let's just say I'm very thankful that I only have to work "I don't know" into scripts, rather than building an entire gunge tank in my spare bedroom....)
You have to do the whole hog though, just replacing the children with other models.
So you need to start off with a build up involving all 4 models playing messy games in slapstick outfits (if you don't dress them up in oversize costumes, your video will flop) and your "children" (who are adult models) need really tenuous reasons to want to get their own back on the "adults" (who are also models). And you need them to be really competitive. Also, when they're not in their oversize costumes, they have to be in shorts and a t-shirt that are quite shapeless just to get the full effect. One of the games should have a gunge forfeit which doesn't have a bearing on the outcome of the show apart from the fact that the loosing "adult" of that game gets gunged.
Only after a 20 minute build up are you allowed to go to the gunk dunk, where the "children" have to answer questions head to head to get their "adult" into the gunge.
SStuff said: The one semi-serious answer to your question:
--Have I dropped slime on models without the "I don't know" catch phrase? Yes. --Have I received feedback in the wake of said scenes, to the effect of, "How come they didn't say I don't know??" Yes.
This ENTIRE industry is based on people's very particular demands.... I mean, there's a few guys who only want to see women pied wearing white pants. A couple only want women wearing ankle socks. There's been requests for models wearing watches... Models blowing bubbles.... And thanks to Lenny, there's about 135 custom videos from the 90s where the model smokes a cigarette in a long antiquated holder while she's getting pied.
And slime fans are extremely particular.... I mean, I use different colors of slime, but some fans only want it to be green. Some want the model to look up, and some HATE that. Some only want the "chunky" style (which models HATE, because it doesn't wash out easily, but I'll do it occasionally). So in the broader context, wrapping the script in pretzel knots just to reach the point where the model works "I don't know" into normal conversation isn't near as tough as other stuff. I mean, it's a cliche, but so is EVERYTHING about slime.
And don't get me started on the UK "gunge," which has a whole different set of rules and demands. (Let's just say I'm very thankful that I only have to work "I don't know" into scripts, rather than building an entire gunge tank in my spare bedroom....)
I tried using other phrases, and I got complaints.
So, now I stick to the I don't know phrase, but I've introduced in my film canon the idea of other triggers, and I make sure to set it up in the scene.
I think the insistence on the same old trigger phrase is based upon nostalgia only; it's what these folks remember from their youth and what sparked their kink or fetish fantasizing...any change to it disrupts the 'masturbatory flow'...the brain's sexual arousal circuitry demands THERE SHALL BE ONLY SAMENESS -- FOREVER!
SStuff said: And don't get me started on the UK "gunge," which has a whole different set of rules and demands. (Let's just say I'm very thankful that I only have to work "I don't know" into scripts, rather than building an entire gunge tank in my spare bedroom....)
You have to do the whole hog though
I'm now tempted to try and fit Shakespearean trigger phrases into our scenes, our house had been standing 200 years when he was writing his plays after all.
"Away, you three-inch fool!" - pie in the face.
"Come, come, you froward and unable worms!" - deluge of blue gunge.
"His wit's as thick as a Tewkesbury mustard." - yellow gunge down the trousers.
"The rankest compound of villainous smell that ever offended nostril" - baked beans over the head.