piboiva said: We've tried secession before. It didn't work out. The constitution doesn't have an escape clause. Some mistakes are built to last.
Nothing is sacred nor special about any human law, including the US Constitution. We can write a new one. All decisions & choices should be about making the positives outweigh the negatives for those who deserve it. And, in this case, California, as well as my home state of New Jersey, deserve the right to leave the union.
You can't force somebody to stay with you - and then bitch & moan & complain when they fight back violently. This is why I have no respect for judges & prison guards.
Nothing is sacred nor special about any human law, including the US Constitution. We can write a new one. All decisions & choices should be about making the positives outweigh the negatives for those who deserve it. And, in this case, California, as well as my home state of New Jersey, deserve the right to leave the union.
You can't force somebody to stay with you - and then bitch & moan & complain when they fight back violently. This is why I have no respect for judges & prison guards.
It's hilarious watching you foot-stompers complaining about Trump being a "fascist" (and he hasn't even had one day as a president yet), yet in the same breath, you are advocating fascism.
You are perfectly fine living in this country as long as everyone does what you want them to do and thinks the way you want them to think. Otherwise, the hell with it. :ohbruther:
I wonder if you people ever hear yourself when you blather on.
You are right about one thing, though. You can't force someone to stay with you. Then again, no one is forcing you to stay, are they? Just pack your bags and get out. Leave. If you think you can find a better land to live in than the United States, then go there.
But I doubt you will. Even with Trump as president.
It's hilarious watching you foot-stompers complaining about Trump being a "fascist" (and he hasn't even had one day as a president yet), yet in the same breath, you are advocating fascism.
You are perfectly fine living in this country as long as everyone does what you want them to do and thinks the way you want them to think. Otherwise, the hell with it. :ohbruther:
I wonder if you people ever hear yourself when you blather on.
You are right about one thing, though. You can't force someone to stay with you. Then again, no one is forcing you to stay, are they? Just pack your bags and get out. Leave. If you think you can find a better land to live in than the United States, then go there.
But I doubt you will. Even with Trump as president.
Well, guess what, shithead? TOO bad. You stupid conservaturds OPPOSE ALL antinatalist laws to prevent my or anyone else's birth. Since you & government won't stop parents forcing new humans into existence, WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION, then you have ZERO business interfering with us sticking right where we are, FORCED into a nation by others, because it is too damned expensive to pick up & move.
Fundamental Bullshit #1: If government won't help everyone, then it absolutely has no right to punish anyone for doing whatever non-consensual law-of-the-jungle acts they need to do in order to survive.
So, take your pick: either anarchy, or fair laws.
It is hilarious watching you mentally inferior subhuman conservatards call ANY idea YOU don't like "fascism".
You support arresting & imprisoning animal rights activists from using justified violent force against factory farms & fur farms for torturing animals & worsening the climate, BREEDING & MURDERING 9 BILLION animals needlessly, just because you don't want to go vegan.
You support arresting & imprisoning climate activists from using justified violent force against coal, oil & gas companies from their UNLIMITED destruction of our nation's & civilizations' future destroying the climate, & stealing TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of dollars of WELFARE from the taxpayer.
Long before we finally got laws against discrimination in employment based on race & gender & sexual orientation off the books, you actually sent cops in to beat up demonstrators.
Long before we ended a mandatory sexist, anti-male military draft in the US, cops & FBI terrorized anyone for merely disagreeing with the draft. Military draft = slavery = fascism.
The worst suffering you conservatards experience is the extreme political correctness from SJWs - i.e. humanities major - at university campuses, silencing you. That makes me angry, too, because they are fighting a war that they already won, attack innocent people who merely ask questions & who did not cause all the unjust anti-gay or anti-black or anti-woman laws in the past.
But mental inferiors like you who do not hold math PhDs and are not vegan for animal rights convince me that you stupid conservatards only brought those reaction upon yourselves. Now you know what past activists felt & suffered.
I am not anti-war. I am all for oppressed invitation in ANY nation to seek the help from ANY other nation to invade & free them. Jews in Nazi Germany rightly begged for help from other nations to prevent their arrest & murder. So I am all for prisoners in the UNITED STATES demand OTHER nations invade the US & rescue THEM.
But what I HATE is the FUCKING ARROGANCE of rightards who think they are ENTITLED to civilians heaping UNLIMITED PRAISE onto soldiers & police officers. Who the fuck are YOU to demand that peace-niks honor & respect individuals - i.e. soldier s- to use violent force to fight wars that THEY do not believe in or agree with?
And all the wars now are stupid conservatives (Western militaries) killing other stupid conservatives (muslims & multicultural shitheads who think tradition & habit & custom & culture & nationalism are more important than basic fairness, such as stopping the torture of animals for halal meat).
You are EXACTLY why I have NO problem executing meat-eaters who take a stand on ANY other moral issue. ANYTHING is justified to do to these self-righteous hypocritical anti-vegetarians. Because that is the LAW OF THE JUNGLE. How FUCKING clueless you have to be to not see how anti-vegans preach about the law of the jungle, but then WHINE & BITCH when the LAW OF THE JUNGLE IS USED AGAINST **THEM**?
Hypocritical rightards' ONLY response to the torture & murder of 9 billion animals in factory farms is ALWAYS WITHOUT EXCEPTION the fallacy of relative privation (FRP).
So then you have NOTHING to complain when people use the FRP against YOU & ANY issue YOU give a damn about. 9/11? Well, blah blah - a million other people died in China under the purges.
Who the FUCK are you to force me or anyone to give a FUCK about pedophilia or anyone making tons of copies of copyrighted material or rape or selling state secrets or "terrorism" any other real or imagined negative event?
How fucking DELUDED do you have to be to think that somehow conservatives are ever "oppressed"? How FUCKING DELUDED do you have to be to NOT see that 99% of the population IS FAR RIGHTWING - because they put their stupid selfish HABITS & CUSTOMS & CULTURE - which is NOTHING but dumb entertainment - above doing what is fair & just.
When green energy, electric cars, biocultured meat get the TRILLIONS of dollars of WELFARE from the government that Wall Street & religion & the NSA get to spy on Americans & fossil fuel companies have gotten, and we force religions to pay taxes & end the NSA
Even Alex Jones - in spite of being an AGW-denier & anti-science idiot & an idiot conspiracy idiot - is good on standing up to & fighting the US govt spying on Americans, without our permission.
I go to RT News & see comment after comment telling refugees in Europe to return home to fight whatever oppression they suffer there. As usual, my sympathies are ONLY for the atheists & secularists: the ones who OPPOSE the stupidity of religion everywhere.
Nevertheless, how SHITHEADED do you have to be to NOT realize that these RT News YouTube channel commentators are advocating refugees return home and USE ILLEGAL VIOLENT FORCE TO KILL THE OPPOSING SIDE - WHICH MUST SURELY BE A CRIME IN WHATEVER THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN IS.
You cannot preach "freedom isn't free" - and then bitch & complain about ANYONE IN THE WORLD using violent force to end some WORSE atrocity or crisis. The ONLY fucking logical goal of ANY decision, ANY choice, ANY job - is to make the positives outweigh the negatives for those who deserve it. OBVIOUSLY not all goals & objectives are the same. EVERYTHING DIFFERS IN MAGNITUDE, not in kind.
Damn right I proudly wear a button that says Bomb All Prisons, Free All Prisoners. Until we put the right people into prison for the right reason, I just LOVE shoving all your fake "anti-fascism" shit back down your throat.
I call it the Fundamental Bullshit of Conservatives: praising civilians for armed revolution in OTHER places or MUCH EARLIER TIMES for fighting & gaining power, & praising paid government soldiers using violent force for a cause, but ridiculing civilians in one's own nation & time if they are not perfectly non-violent.
Of course, the Fundamental Bullshit of Liberals historically has been: Opposing any & all violence or war, no matter what the cause, how justified.
I am going to force the FRP on you once more: Whatever annoying irritating & unjust silencing Facebook or Twitter has done to Republicans - & I agree - they should not - is TRIVIAL compared to the COMPLETE BLACKOUT by big media of:
Clifton Roberts, Humane Party. Gloria La Riva and Eugene Puryear, Socialism and Liberation Party. Monica Moorehead and Lamont Lilly, Workers World Party. Alyson Kennedy and Osborne Hart, Socialist Workers Party. Dr Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka, Green Party. John McAfee & Gary Johnson, Libertarian The American Delta Party (I have no idea who they are: I just noted they were on the ballot) Constitution Party (I don't agree with them, but, they have a right to be heard).
If you want to change other people's minds, then use numbers. Mathematically QUANTIFY the number of laws on your side versus how many on the opposing side. Those who are oppressed currently under REAL laws - whether it is atheists & secularists in Europe silenced to speak out against Islam - or those of us fighting for the SAME TRILLIONS of dollars of WELFARE be given to green energy & biocultured meat that coal, oil & gas have gotten for 150 years - takes PRECEDENCE over HYPOTHETICAL laws restricting your freedom.
Some idiot thinks that standing up to cops, police, courts & judges is "fascist", when - NEWS FLASH! - actual Nazis arrested people and had trials, courts, prisons, judges, etc As did super-nationalists like the Soviets & the Chinese. Therefore, standing up against them is being anti-fascist.
The fact that I was DENIED the right to work the polls in my state on election day & earn $200 by some LYING CUNT BITCH who LIED to me - told me I "had to be a registered Republican or Democrat" is fascism. No. Wrong. I am FORCED to pay THOUSANDS of dollars in taxes to the government, but I get COMPARATIVELY little in return. I pay taxes to govt: implies, I get the SAME legal right as any other taxpayer to work the polls on election day & make $200.
2. I bought an all-electric water heater last year, because I want it run on all solar-wind-generated electricity, which I am forced to pay MORE for because unlike fossil fuels which are "cheap" to the customer ONLY because of TRILLIONS of dollars of welfare for FFs. The FUCKING FASCIST government gave $500 to those buying a gas-powered water heater. Why? The govt should be giving $500 to those who want renewable energy and should be FINING & PENALIZING those who keep FORCING fossil fuel burning onto the rest of us, onto MY private property & the private properties of millions of others.
ALL arguments (literally, about ANYTHING), all wars, all crimes, all conflicts, reduce to the SAME logical inconsistencies over & over & over again.
Namely: EXISTING laws (not in my favor) have to be obeyed, but HYPOTHETICAL LAWS (not in your favor) are "fascist".
Contradicts the fact that those who have laws NOT PRESENTLY in their favor have INFINITELY MORE right to complain & fight back that those worried about hypothetical laws.
And none of this (existing vs hypothetical) addresses whether a law is fascist/extremist: namely, the harm to someone greatly outweighs the benefit to someone else.