moreslime said: That's actually a bit disturbing. I don't doubt your story - her account and all posts been removed so I assume MM agrees with you - but she seemed legit.

I remember the thread about January/February this year (now deleted), where she said she was available for sessions. There was quite a bit of scepticism, as is often the case, although she seemed to check out. The pictures on her profile fitted with the age she said she was, and matched the pictures/person on a linked IG account. What's more, another member (long-standing, so presumably not a sock-puppet) defended Aubrey, and said she was real as he'd had a session with her.

But now we've got this. Perhaps the answer is that she began as legit and then went rogue, but if it's not that then I don't know what to think. This is concerning, as I'd always thought scammers are at least shown up for what they are pretty quickly under scrutiny, but that doesn't appear to be the case here. Hmmm.

sororia said:
I remember that thread and I was definitely one of the people defending Aubrey. It's really annoying to find out that she's not on the level. There's a weird undercurrent of people in all fetish scenes that are always to exploit people to make a quick dollar and I'll never understand why things have to be like this. I get that a lot of fetishes can invoke guilt or shame in people and it's easy to take advantage of that but there's no need for such nefarious manipulation. It drives me absolutely nuts and it gives everyone who has ever paid for or charged for any content or services a bad name. The vast majority of us are genuine and in the community with nothing but good intentions.

sororia said:
I think you were right to make the post. You're out money, your trust has been violated and you don't have a ton of recourse. I'm all about giving people the benefit of the doubt, but once they've proven to be unreliable the community needs to know about it.

lchris001 said: Aubrey was 50/50 for me when I contacted her to do some business but eventually did not pass the smell test, but she was close.

Almost went through with the process, then she sent me a bill but it was from a drycleaning business (if memory serves correctly). Perhaps she does have a legit business or maybe she's using her parent's company (roll-eyes)... but it was definitely a good chuckle when I got a bill (downpayment request) from a drycleaning business for WAM-related business.

Oh well, save your money for established models and producers my friends! I'll give an unsolicited shoutout to Ariel and Jayce, who have been very reliable.

dhillsarealive said: Sorry to hear this. I was one of the people keeping an open mind about her on the old thread, so it's very disappointing to be proved wrong. (Of course, being on a different continent, I was never going to be booking a session with her, but on her IG there was clear evidence of an edited video of at least one scene existing and being readied for sale, so that seemed to point in the optimistic direction. I then assumed the world situation had simply got in the way of plans.)

Again, sorry to hear of your experience.

mhop said: apparently shes selling the rights to her videos on instagram, this is very suspect.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFFlkrdAEqd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I would not even bother with her just seems like a cash grab.

soundguy said: RE: the screenshot posted - "Broe Media" is the infamous Chris Broe who was banned from here years ago. This woman is clearly one of his many associates. Pretty much anybody who dealt with any of them got burned eventually

soundguy said: RE: the screenshot posted - "Broe Media" is the infamous Chris Broe who was banned from here years ago. This woman is clearly one of his many associates. Pretty much anybody who dealt with any of them got burned eventually

moreslime said:
Ah, so I assume this is the notorious "Scumbag Chris"! I've seen that label a few times in threads, but never knew his surname. All makes sense now

But seriously, it's a bit worrying that he remains at large. He was clearly exposed some years ago and yet he's still scamming and in effect on UMD by proxy (or was until recently) with "Aubrey" being his latest front.

VegasWam said: Maybe people should stop falling for every new model that waltzes into the forums, and posts one or two new videos?

It's literally the same MO each and every time, and people still fall for it because they can't let the blood flow hit their brain instead of their cock.

moreslime said:
Ah, so I assume this is the notorious "Scumbag Chris"! I've seen that label a few times in threads, but never knew his surname. All makes sense now

But seriously, it's a bit worrying that he remains at large. He was clearly exposed some years ago and yet he's still scamming and in effect on UMD by proxy (or was until recently) with "Aubrey" being his latest front.

lchris001 said:
But how did Chris faked the session? I believe there was one UMD member who did have session with this supposed Aubrey... Is that UMD member still around?

VegasWam said: Maybe people should stop falling for every new model that waltzes into the forums, and posts one or two new videos?

It's literally the same MO each and every time, and people still fall for it because they can't let the blood flow hit their brain instead of their cock.

MikeNomic said:
It's said that the human male suffers from a basic design fault; there's enough blood to operate the brain or the dick, but NOT both together.

PieromaniacAttack-ack-ack said: I'm glad you made this info available, knowyourphone.

I'm the one who publicly outed Neil Edwards as a scamming bastard about 5 years ago, but I'm afraid I waited WAY too long. He'd ripped me off five years previously. I decided to go public when I discovered he'd also ripped off several other people on the UMD (previous to that I thought perhaps I'd been the only one). Also, once I did go public with that info, even more people came forward to say they too had been scammed by Neil over this same time period. I believe in the end the total number came to 10-12 people that he'd scammed out of bulk DVD-R orders or customs.

If I or any other of these ripped-off folks had come out publicly in a timely fashion with the info about how we got scammed by Neil, it would've likely prevented other people from getting burned too. (Part of the problem was that it wasn't immediately clear to any of us he was ripping us off. He'd been a respectable producer for over a decade at that point and it was also known he'd suffered a serious health crisis, so we were inclined to cut him some slack for awhile. But after endless months of emailing and re-emailing him and getting broken promise after broken promise and lame excuse after lame excuse from the guy, it slowly became apparent that we were never going to get what we paid for, or a refund.)

For those who haven't been around a long time, Neil was the founder of the legendary PieFightGirls, which he sold to a third party circa 2014. This third party seems to be operating the business completely respectably.

PieromaniacAttack-ack-ack said: I should note that, after his scamming was exposed on the forum, Neil followed up with something that is, at least in my mind, even worse than ripping people off financially. He actually extorted one UMD member who was speaking against him into silence. (This member wasn't telling lies about Neil either, just exposing some other shitty behavior on Neil's part regarding how he was being unfair and difficult in transitioning his business to the guy who bought it from him.) Well, Neil had this member's name and other identifying info and he actually threatened the guy that he would post this info in the forums unless the guy ceased his negative commentary on Neil. (The member dutifully backed out of further commentary on Neil, but described this extortion in a post as his reason for going silent.)

Not what is just *incredibly* shitty behavior from a producer.

relax22 said: Thank you knowyourphone for posting this, but unfortunately I fell victim to this bastard's scam to the tune of 600 dollars back in January of this year. "Aubrey" pushed the session back because of the coronavirus which was the most legit and convenient excuse a scammer could've had. She tried to get me to pay more money to have the session sooner instead of early next year because of the "risk" it was putting to her health and kids by coming to me for the session and that was the first red flag that tripped me off. I have every single email from my conversations with her and she seemed genuine, but I guess I was just too blinded by the thought of having my first real wam session with another wammer that I wasn't thinking clearly. I can forward my archived emails to an admin in power or MessMaster to keep on file so that should any new model come out of the blue offering up sessions using similar if not the same dialogue that "Aubrey" used then we can catch them before they scam anyone else hopefully. I don't know how I'll trust anyone in the wam community again. And to be honest, I don't know if I could even trust the blue chip wammers that offer in person wam sessions after what happened. Regardless, thank you knowyourphone for posting the truth about this scammer!

relax22 said: She tried to get me to pay more money to have the session sooner instead of early next year because of the "risk" it was putting to her health and kids by coming to me for the session and that was the first red flag that tripped me off.

moreslime said:
Kids? Not surprised that was a red flag - what did she claim to be, 21? "Kids" weren't impossible, but not very likely either. In fact, that could be another clue that someone's really dealing with Scumbag Chris.

One of his earlier scams, about 2014/15, was based around a site which had three main models, Gia, Selena and Skylar. All three had accounts here. (Well, it was supposedly them posting...) It seemed to start well, but then there were the usual stories about customs that went undelivered etc. But the real sensation was Skylar posting one day to say she'd been diagnosed with cancer. In her mid-20s? Again, not impossible, but not very likely. Think that scam imploded soon afterwards.

In short, incredible - in every sense - sob stories are a giveaway that Chris is involved, although I do like your idea of sharing your emails so there's a database of his writing style. That could help spot him too.

Incidentally, one thing I never quite figured out was whether the models above were in on that scam, or were unaware themselves. Could be either, or a mix of both, but I'm guessing that "Skylar", at least, never knew she was supposed to be seriously ill. You see, she's since done a number of shoots for another, perfectly legitimate, WAM site on here under another name. And yes, she looks very well! If anyone knows differently then please say, but my interpretation of all that is that she was only ever a model, who never actually posted on here (pretty sure she doesn't have a profile under her other modelling name, which would be what you'd expect as most models don't post on UMD) and had no idea of the things said in her name.