leonmoomin said: That's what customs are for and there has been plenty of tightsless Gunge tanks on there.

Thanks for the advice though!

CalGungeFan said:
Thats the reason why i said it!

As 85% of Gameshow Customs don't have tights... So thats what alot of people want to see as there ordering customs without tights. So i don't understand why that doesn't happen more frequently on GTG (more variety knowing the evidence certainly suggests that people liking gameshows, prefer no tights) Thats all i'm saying.

It just makes alot of sense to me, give a bit more variety as that what people want (like 50/50 in your flagship site)

I know that won't happen, i understand that tight is your preference... But i had to say it

I know there are alot of people that want that variety on the GTG site so maybe fans can have that conversation on this thread, but most of them are the silence type, which is fine So that's why i bought it up

leonmoomin said:
BTW, that was a NO!!!

stfcjay said: I'm in the process of arranging my sixth custom with Charlotte, all of them GTG games with no tights (and all featuring barefeet in some way).

I've seen these same discussions with regarding GTG and Mostwam numerous times before, and the answers/conclusion has always been the same.

But my take on it is, since the tank was acquired and GTG started in 2006 (It seemed a predominantly Big Dave venture), it always stood out as something a bit different from anything which Mostwam had offered. It started out quite fresh and experimental and evolved through the Evil Claire and Liz eras. Originally, the outfits were fairly varied and didn't stick rigidly to the Mostwam type. Then when moving to the studio and Liz hosting, the policy of all episodes being a competitive game with only the loser being gunged was adopted fully. (Although outfits evolved more towards the typical 'Mostwam' type)

I find the competitive element very significant. Pretty much every other Mostwam site I can think of doesn't have this. Whatever the site or substance, there's no suspense or jeopardy. The featured model will be covered in that site's substance, wearing an outfit from a fairly limited range and style. Even in sites involving games (Top Gunge, Just Dunked, Just Pied) everyone knows all the players will be getting messy/wet.

Now in GTG, I just find that genuine element where the players know they could get paid and not have to get messy. (I know these are girls who don't mind getting messy and will probably get messy in the next episode filmed 20 minutes later, but the suspense always feels real, especially from certain girls) But the extra dynamics that element seems to bring and the possibilities and opportunities it brings, I think are amazing.
I have no idea about Mostwam's customer demographics, but I feel this bit is really different from anything else the site offers.

When GTG relaunched under Leon in 2014, I kind of knew it would become just another Mostwam site. (I think in terms of outfit preference, I feel the same way about outfits featuring tights as Leon does about outfits not featuring tights. It's a deal breaker for me)

I got the impression he knew the genuine competition format is very popular and saleable, but didn't fully 'get it' (i.e. rather than a WAM video simply being a model getting wet/messy (well obviously ) That extra layer of interaction and purposely ending with some girls not getting messy at all. My main motivation from the WAM scene is to try to recreate the feelings from the scenes I watched on T.V. in my youth. The disappointments and the unadulterated joy from whether a result went for or against what I wanted. GTG has been the only format on the whole scene that has come close to that for me.)

I seem to recall Leon saying a long time ago it didn't feel right to him to be paying girls to not get messy, and there were a few episodes in early 2016 where they gunged girls still messy from the deciding game (but not repeated)

But it's come to pass that, outfit-wise, GTG has only used 'typical' Mostwam outfits. I completely respect that. It's Leon's site, so it's his choice. But I just think it's a pity that people who love the different element that GTG brings can only see it with a certain type of outfit.

Part of me hoped when they got the studio and GTG went weekly (from around 25 episodes per year to 52) they might have been a bit more variety and experimentation tried and there could still be an increase in the conventional GTG episode output. I know there is now GTG on casual WAM, but that seems about one every four or so weeks and so far.

I absolutely love all of my customs from Charlotte. I know most have involved more convoluted games and outfits that would not be used in GTG, I would never expect a GTG episode to conform exactly to my tastes. But I always find it very enjoyable when a few elements of a GTG episode are a little different to normal.



Finally, will the Classic GTG and Evil Claire era GTG sections on the Mostwam streaming site be added to any time soon? Both started off well then stopped completely.