So I have question for the community, if you are getting messy/wet or watching a video of someone else getting messy/wet, does the price of the outfit add to the excitement?

For example if you know that the particular piece is very expensive/high end and as per usual with such items could be easily ruined forever if gotten wet/messy, does knowing that add value to the video/personal experience?

My follow up would be, would you rather use/see an outfit that has been genuinely used before for non wam purposes, for example if it's work outfit (office suit etc...) Does knowing that that particular outfit has been worn in real life scenarios add value or excitement to the video/experience?

I will add my personal opinion later, but for me the outfit matters quite a bit, I'm not very much into the nudity/porn aspect of the fetish, I dont really care if the model gets naked or the outfit becomes see thru etc...

I'd say yes to both counts. For myself, I wouldn't call it a critical addition...but it is a worthwhile one. I've always like seeing nice formalware, nice knitwear, skirts/hosiery, and officewear getting wrecked.

For me it's not the cost of the items, you can get stunning looking outfits for not a lot of cash if you understand fashion and shop around, but it's very much the style of them. I've realised I have a clothing fetish as well as a WAM one and as a result I am very, very fussy about what our people wear in scenes. With a very few exeptions we supply all the outfits (right down to underwear) that our people use, and plan the outfits jointly with the girls in advance.

But yes, how the girls' clothes look, both clean and while getting messy, is of paramount importance to us. Lady Jasmine and I usually spend a fair bit of time in charity shops in high-end areas, the prices tend to be higher but the quality of some of the pieces is incredible, and I don't mind paying a tenner for a dress for someone to be gunged in that was originally £80 or more in Marks & Spencer. This last year has rather kyboshed that of course, but we've been buying stuff on-line instead, we have some great new outfits lined up for our people to wear when shooting becomes possible again.

I have a soft spot for wedding/prom dresses. The price of the outfit doesn't even cross my mind- its fully the look and feel of wearing that type of dress.

However because those dresses tend to be quite pricey, I'll hit eBay for a second hand items. (apart from a full length strapless wedding dress I nabbed on Amazon for £25!- that ones new, and still hasn't been sploshed either.)

in my next messy session my girlfriend will have an expensive thick mohair sweater and it's exciting for me.
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I used to buy cheap outfits from places like Tesco and Primark specifically for messy sessions with both my girlfriend and the girl from the escort sgency, who were my two wam partners. Quite often the outfits would be ripped off and destroyed afterwards and knowing that they would only ever be worn once was part of the excitement.

Although the outfits were cheap, usually blouses and skirts/jackets or button through dresses, both girls did look good in them before they were plastered with pies.

One of my favorite lines from Oliver's WAM story "How Dare You!": "Not my clothes, please no, or my hair...I paid a fortune..."

http://chocmess.com/splosh/stories/Oliver/howdare.htm

Expense of clothing matters very much to me in the wam experience & why I like formalwear so much as its just something you shouldn't do, wreck something so expensive & thats major excitement to me.

I too get far more aroused with nice smart clothing that originally cost lots. I did a tit for tat video recently where I bought an expensive set of undies just to cut them up for the film. I loved it.

I say yes to both. The caveat would be that we admirers of WAM will never know what the clothing cost or if it is bought second hand unless the producer lets us in on the details. But like most other replies, seeing an expensive looking outfit get trashed is the main thrill. The fancier and more detailed the clothing and accessories are, the better. Seeing handbags, jewelry, scarves or hats, etc. get covered in mess adds to the excitement of watching the scene.

Everyday clothing being messed up and trashed is exciting as well. That is as long as it does not look like it was ready to be discarded.

ruining expensive things adds to the enjoyment for me, but it also works for me when the item is worth hundreds but I got it for £2.50 on amazon due to a sale pricing error, or in a charity shop, or free because someone sent it to me to ruin. I keep an eye out for quality formal things and set price alerts.

I'm a fan of shiny shorts and rainwear, thankfully shorts scenes are quite common now wich is really great and the shorts are not cheap, but they clean up so easily they can be re-used regardless of how much mess they get.
The biggest disappointment for me is rainwear as it is rare enough as it is but when there is a scene it is not quite the rainwear i would like, they look cheap. I would much rather pay more to purchase a scene if the rainwear was better quality, like everyday rain/waterproof jackets like nike windrunners, adidas rain jackets, northface, columbia, fluid,marmot ect.

Can definitely second this, the shorts do look great, clean or messy, and are a hit with people who like girls looking athletic.


Interesting point, though I'd tend to think of those as more everyday wear (or possibly winter wear), "rainwear" in a WAM context seems to usually be taken more to mean the basic unlined waterproof rainwear sold by most workwear companies, which are basically plastic jackets, trousers, or jumpsuits. Our first rainwear scene was a custom featuring the plastic raingear, it also sold reasonably well, hence why we've done more of them, both as customs and our own mainline scenes, since. You're right that they aren't expensive, usually under £20 for a set of jacket and trousers - we've done a few cutting scenes with sets of them too. In comparison I just looked up Nike Windrunners, and JD Sports have them for £70 a time. That's way more than we'd spend speculatively, though we'd consider it for a custom, once the Covid restrictions lift.

Do you have a link to your 1st rainwear scene, I'd be interested to know which one it is? Get any planned for release soon?

I think for me it's about the outfit not the expense, I've found I really like the £20 nylon rainwear, but also there is £20 rainwear I hate. It really depends on the person wearing it and the situation.

This was the one: https://saturationhall.umd.net/download_info/rainwear-mess-test

Though I realise we did some wetlook rainwear scenes prior to that, notably British Summer Beachwear 2012 (it chucked it down all summer so we put Chastity in rainwear over a bikini in the river) plus some of the "quickies" we sometimes release on 5 week months.

The best outfit I destroyed in a wam/ripping session was a satin skirt suit, which was a lucky find in a charity shop. It was black and, to make it even better, was a size too small for Sally, the sexy escort girl who was going to dress up in it.

She was a size 10/12, the suit was an 8, and the crazy scenario we were going to do was that she was my girlfriend and we had been to a wedding reception, and she had wound me up by flirting outrageously with all the other guys there so I had to get my revenge on her afterwards.

The jacket and skirt absolutely clung to her curvy, busty (34F!) body like a second skin, we had decided on nothing at all underneath, the outfit completed with a pair of black patent 6 inch platform stiletto heels, and I had put a few small cuts here and there in the jacket and skirt to aid their destruction. After pelting her with about 15 huge pies, she was pulled into the floor and a bucket of custard poured up the skirt, then she was bent over the table and her already custard covered face pushed into another huge pie, then I ripped the skirt apart, followed by the jacket, with satisfyingly loud tearing noises, leaving just part of one sleeve on, and her heels, the sexy outfit being literally ripped to shreds, with a bit of pretend shock "oh, look what you have done to my clothes!"

one hour later, we were both exhausted!

What a memory......

There used to be a Yahoo Group (remember them?) which focused on destroying, not only clothes, but other valuable objects. Clearly it was a niche (or so I thought) fetish. Lots of expensive clothes were destroyed in a variety of ways. Some of course took it to the extreme and bought items specifically to ruin them. One guy smashed an expensive looking camera straight out of the box. I thought that was a bit far, but it probably cost less than some of the designer clothes that went that way. WAM was not always, but often was, involved.

Only clothes destruction, and break away furniture in film sets I like. Anything else I just think is wasteful and wrong

Oh and here's some pics of the sexy lady whose suit was shredded, the black heels in one of the pics are the ones she wore

https://d257pz9kz95xf4.cloudfront.net/female-escorts-in-manchester/sally-british

Sadly, she is no longer working

Like this one?

http://wench.gungemaster.com/samples/gm-2f85/i2.html

Any more comin soon?

Wow, I'd forgotten all about that one, there was a time I could name every scene we'd ever done but that was a long time ago. Looking in the queue, there are a few of scenes involving some dergree of waterproofs, we might drop one of them during the spring.

In my case the price of the clothes no increse my exitament necessarily but there are some especific expensive clothes that excite me a lot for example Louboutin heels, Gucci belt and logo t shirt, Ralph Lauren flag sweater and shirts, Stockholm raincoat, Levi's jeans... and answering the second question I like to use/see personal clothes but no trash them, I really love to soak / muddy/ filthy my own outfit, clean it and wear it again like nothing's happened

Yes, it does.
Imagining that the outfit she's wearing is a kind of outfit that a woman wouldn't like other people watching her getting dirty on it is simply amazing! Expensive clothes, which whom a woman would look to the mirror, saying to herself "how beautiful I am", and then, suddenly... SPLAT... a cream pie ruins everything... It's superb...

Those female business suits on Alibaba's site causes exactly this effect... try it!

It's not like a as $$$ goes up so does excitement for me. Ultimately the suspense of ruining something nice is there, but I care more about the look and feel of whatever it is when it's wet and messy.

Just for example:

This is wetlook, but look at Kim's outfit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuFytc9YLDs

It's not necessary to say it's an expensive outfit. But, just looking at it, we can say it's expensive. A cheap outfit wouldn't look so nice. This is one of the kind of outfits that turn me on.

I'm probably in the minority on this, but to me it doesn't matter AT ALL what the girl/model is wearing, clothes getting messy or clothing destruction doesn't do anything for me, so for me it doesn't matter if she's dressed up, casually dressed, or something more specific, it doesn't add or take away from a scene for me either way

As long as the girl/model gets really messy, what she's wearing doesn't factor in to me what so ever, only way I would care is if she was wearing something that covered her up or prevented her from getting as messy as possible lol

Her hairdo probably cost more than most women would spend on an outifit.

In most of my videos, the models clothes were either boutique (Ivy's panties, pink shoes, and flower print dress; Tamara's pink bloomer panties), vintage (Tabitha wore a couture, black and white petticoat and then a Dior, silk-lined dress; Tamara's entire wardrobe in Splat!TV was vintage or boutique), or, custom made (Brandi, the red-haired beauty, wore a custom made [for me] green velvet cocktail dress (Dior style, and boutique green satin panties).

So, yes, clothing / wardrobe is/was rather important for me (in wam), but I agree with the comment that there are cheap knock-offs that look expensive...so, it is def the look, more than the label.

I wear my regular clothes when I do wam stuff so it's been out in the real world before wam and then after too. Currently I'm taking a bath in a skirt a blouse I wore yesterday. But to me it's just that I like to get messy and wet in my average clothes. That's what I like being that I'm just a messy girl.

The pride really doesn't matter to me honestly. To me it's much less fun when I use something more expensive because I'm more worried that I'll ruin it. I never do end up ruining anything but I try to avoid using expensive clothes that run the risk.

There's something unbelievably sexy in seeing a woman dressed in the most beautiful and pristine formal clothes get her outfit ruined. I think saying 'expensive outfit' is a short hand way of saying an outfit she cares about and has pride in and wouldn't want to get dirty in any way.

It's about more than just expensive. For me it needs to be meticulously ironed to make sure there are no creases or blemishes. Perfect hair and makeup is a bonus.

One of the finest videos I've ever seen is the one Allwam made a few years back where they took a lorry load of prim and proper secretary-types to an army assault course and made them complete it. Most of them were dressed in skirts, heels, stockings, satin blouses and were carrying handbags. Their hair and makeup was perfect and it seemed utterly incongruous that they would be present in such a muddy environment in the first place, let alone forced to complete the course dressed to the nines.

It was so humiliating and wonderful. I like to imagine them getting ready and doing their makeup before checking themselves in the mirror to make sure they look perfect knowing what's going to happen to them.

I read once on this forum (and I can't find the post any more so maybe it's deleted?) about a woman who was sitting in a restaurant in a lovely red dress with a sign saying she had lost a bet and the patrons could pie her if they wanted to.

Wow. The humiliation aspect of that is wonderful and also the not knowing if she's going to get messy is hot as well.

That aspect is partly what gets me. It's her reaction to their beautiful outfit being ruined and the more high end it is, then the more likely they wouldn't want it to be. And then also the way it probably feels wearing certain types of formal wear. Formal clothing usually fits pretty tight, especially on women, and then getting it covered or wet would make it just that much more uncomfortable. They went through all that work to put the clothing on and make themselves up with makeup, jewelry, etc. That's what's really at the heart of what does it for me. That and their reactions to it. Whether shocked, happy or not happy, it can go either way.