Guys, if you ever feel you can't cope, talk to someone, or phone the Samaritans. Suicide is the biggest killer of men under 50 in the UK and probably one of the biggest in other countries too. It's OK to reach out.
While not a fan, they are part of me growing up and did influence my tastes in some respect. And to anyone thinking there is no way out, there is. There are many people who can help but they need to know so reach out to friends family, medics, therapists hell even a stranger can turn things around.
This one stings, saddest i've felt about a celeb death since Mark E Smith died. Saw them live in Newcastle once and they were exceptional. One of the few bands just about all my friends, no matter their main music tastes, liked. Rest In Power Keith Flint
DungeonMasterOne said: Guys, if you ever feel you can't cope, talk to someone, or phone the Samaritans. Suicide is the biggest killer of men under 50 in the UK and probably one of the biggest in other countries too. It's OK to reach out.
At a 3.5 to 1 ratio compared to women world wide actually. I almost did it twice in 2017, once last year, and consider it even now.
"He who has a Why to live for can bear almost any How."- Nietzsche
Since I don't have my own 'why' right now, I simply made the decision that my life is not my own, and that it belongs to others.
If your pain is unbearable, reach out, read this, PM me. It wouldn't be the first time I've gone to visit a community member in this kind of situation. https://umd.net/groups/stay-positive
I am so glad that he chose how he left this life. To me there is nothing wrong with suicide. If the person gets to a point in their life where there are circumstances that make them think they would be better dead I applaud it. I don't think there is anything wrong with suicide. I hate the fact that people try to blame it on one thing or another. Yes I know that there are people out there that have mental diseases that cause them to commit suicide and that if they want help feeling better they should get it. But for all we know he had just been diagnosed with a terminal disease and did not want to go out with the quality of life that can be had by people with that disease.
dalamar666 said: I am so glad that he chose how he left this life. To me there is nothing wrong with suicide. If the person gets to a point in their life where there are circumstances that make them think they would be better dead I applaud it. I don't think there is anything wrong with suicide. I hate the fact that people try to blame it on one thing or another. Yes I know that there are people out there that have mental diseases that cause them to commit suicide and that if they want help feeling better they should get it. But for all we know he had just been diagnosed with a terminal disease and did not want to go out with the quality of life that can be had by people with that disease.
I agree with the right to take one's own life. However, more often than not, those who commit suicide don't do so because they want to die. Rather, they do so because they cannot bear the pain of living.
But then, there is also to consider the pain you may inflict on others with such an action. A father and husband leaving a wife and child behind to fend for themselves, etc.
Good/bad, right/wrong, no matter the reason, suicide is still a selfish choice. It is something that requires the utmost clarity of thought and reason. There is no hindsight with suicide.
Potatoman-J said: Good/bad, right/wrong, no matter the reason, suicide is still a selfish choice. It is something that requires the utmost clarity of thought and reason. There is no hindsight with suicide.
I disagree with this. It is seen as selfish because the person that committed suicide did not think on the impact on others. On the impact on the family the person leaves behind. If people really cared about the person that committed suicide they would consider the quality of life of the person. This person wanted to leave this life. Their circumstances made it so that their outlook on life was so grim that they felt the only choice was suicide. The people around them that come out from the wood work after the person dies and tries to figure out why they did it. Fact is, they might have known that had they talked with the person. Had they noticed something was off. There is a chance that the person would have talked to them, maybe even worked on things in their life that made them feel the way they do. What about the responsibility of the people around the person to notice that something was off. Why didn't they consider what the person was going through before death? Maybe they were too wrapped up in their own life to notice what was going on. I find it funny we blame the person that committed suicide for being selfish but never consider the people that missed the warning signs.