Sure do! But what I really love is when producers don't jerk off in front of their models.

I never seen any Ebony Models in Clay or Mud.

Awesome! What else do you love?

Don't see as much of it, but yeah. I absolutely adore Friday from DM1, and Kayla, who has worked with a LOT of WAM producers.

I do love seeing black models sploshing as a black person into WAM but the Ebony label always felt really exoticizing in a really uncomfortable way. It's a perspective that's very white coded, rather than coming from a perspective of already built in diversity.

Really awkward place to be.

Ponies, sunsets, and classic 70's wrestling.

When you want something specific how do you even put it into words without offending a person. Cant just ask for a general term especially if you want something specific. You could say African American model, only works if you are from the USA.

Ebony has been the term used on HERE for years. That's really why I continue to use it when adding pictures of black women pied and slimed. No other rhyme or reason behind it.

Yes, very much so.

I think about 75% of the downloads I've bought have featured black models.

In more general terms, I just think black women are very attractive for the most part.

It's a shame there aren't huge amounts of videos with them in.

I've never thought of diospyros trees being a particularly good WAM substance tbh.
But woc getting messy? Fuck yeah!!

I really want to see more ebony models get WAM, I find it really rare to find any.

To me all WAM is interesting. Skin color does not matter. A great model comes in all shapes, sizes and colors.

Yes, yes - and very yes, from the mouth of a WAM fan and POC.


I can imagine! It's decidedly a frustrating topic, and probably one worthy of sounder discussion - but to provide an inverse perspective from a similar lens I'm of the mind that literal porn is the one place in society where we *shouldn't* fuss about being thoroughly PC.

Yes ... but what I really like is bony WAM.

our new girl naomi is a very proud ebony woman. she is mixed (mom white, dad black) but she proudly declares herself a black woman and has loved the few shoots she has done so far and it seems like people have liked her so far! i cant wait to really fuck her up good!! mwhahahaa! she is my first ebony model ( i am using that term because you have used it in the thread. i have no idea what i would call it....shes just a model.... she is just naomi! ) but we have also found that we enjoy her using her real hair, and so does she, when we shoot vids! she has about shoulder length hair and she preferred it to when she had a weave in.

we did too! she liked the feel of the mess and wet on her real hair! i was concerned bc i know that black women do their hair differently and take care of it differently and fuuuuck i have a hard enough time with MY hair....but her real hair has messed and wetted beautifully so I have asked her to keep her real hair going strong when she shoots. i think its sexier anyway, the way she wears it .

so, my answer, yes, i like it.

Absolutely!

Respecting women. It gives me a massive hard on that I can't help but touch in front of them!

I DO! I DO! I DO!

Yes...I enjoy seeing black models pied. And that's because you don't see it often. But I actually love seeing any woman - that I'm attracted to - get pied. In fact, I enjoy seeing all the different races of women get pied. I like different body types too. And also various looks. She doesn't need to be a classic beauty for me to be attracted to her. Cute, pretty, beautiful, great personality, high intelligence, etc. I love all of those various qualities in a woman. And these qualities, can all have their varied differences you know (i.e.- Beauty fades, but cute lasts forever). And I do have my limits though. Shallow me, I guess. I think an attractive woman should not be too fat (definitely!). Although - at my upper limit - I think Amy Schumer is attractive. You?So...sorry; all of you + size girls. Please don't be mad @ me. No offense. And who am I to talk anyway? I'm a very phat man myself. But the ladies luv it! Also...I think that maybe, a woman should not be too thin as well. And I'm really into women with long hair (no bangs please). Long haired females are almost a 2nd fetish for me.

That describes roughly 95% of the females in anyone's WAM catalog

he doesnt like bangs though!!! i have been rocking bangs since i had hair!!! lol but i have had people ask me to maybe wear them to the side or off my face.
they are like my pacifier!! i feel safe under my bangs but i have considered wearing them to the side a few times. it just feels so strange! but that is true. most wam chicks gots the long hair. i have no idea how i still HAVE hair after everything i have put in it....but i thank the good lord kaballah monster that i do!!

There does seem to be a disproportionate amount of ivory models in the WAM community.

Considering Ebony Magazine has been around for decades I have no qualms using the term.

This thread is giving me ......

............ wood.

I Love Brianna!! Do you have anymore of Brianna? If so, please post...........and to answer your original question, no I don't!! Love your work though!

Jayce, I've always found you to be very beautiful, & very cute. That's why - even though you do have bangs - I still love buying your excellent videos. However...how about some feathered bangs as a compromise? Marie Osmond has lightly feathered bangs, & I think she's very cute. It's not that I think you're unattractive with heavy bangs. I just think you'd be even more attractive without them. Like Ariel does sometime. Show me a good looking woman with short hair (& there are some), & I'll show you a better looking woman with long hair. Just sayin'; at least as far I'm concerned. And I feel the same about bangs. I know it's a strange predelliction of mine, but I own it. So I say, go with how you feel best Jayce. I understand. Oh yeah...did I mention I have bangs? Probably should have lead with that, huh? Ok...I'm thru. It's all out of my system.

~Switch Reels~

As a black man under the make-up, I feel Ebony Model sounds a little bit off to me. Ebony works for a magazine name about black people (clever), but as a way of identifying a black, or a female African American Model, seem kinda wrong. No big deal, but what do ya think? You would almost never refer to a white model as an Ivory Model, right? In fact - as far as I know - no one ever puts any race labels on white models at all. Only Black, Latina, Indian, & Asian models. So why call out black models at all? The pix alone make it obvious. I dream of a day when we don't need such labels in the WAM Community. And Mr. "I don't like Ebony Models". Try it Mr_Pies, you'll like it. Although I agree with ya on one point. I like Breana too. Wowzers!

Ebony & Ivory...live together in perfect harmony.

You have a head of gold, Jayce! Maybe the variety of stuff that's been in your hair over the years have all helped to moisturize and condition your hair! At least you haven't had a situation like Shelby did TEN YEARS ago with my colleague who, at the time, was experimenting with different "substances" and got slime in her hair. Long story short, she almost had to cut her hair off the next morning to get the tangles out. Fortunately, she didn't have to do that, but his slime recipe was something I'd never use again. Real flour = pure agony for hair. You've endured far more mess than she has

Thank you for articulating that so well. That's exactly how I feel about it, despite the fact that it's apparently been used here for a long time (surely we've learned in many a situation that something being done for a long time is no valid justification in & of itself), and the presence of a magazine of the same name (indeed context is everything).

I'd like to think that we will be open to adjusting usage of terms that result in 'othering' members of our community, and not simply reject it as the done thing 'round here.